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  • ecantona9
    Rookie
    • Jul 2002
    • 35

    #106
    Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

    Originally posted by MarkWilliam
    The biggest irk for me is after I score and then the opposing centre (AI) streaks down the court to the basket. My centre (Steven Adams) has a lot less urgency and basically coughs up a layup. It leaves me feeling rather helpless. This will happen maybe 6 + times per game. Broadcast cam - the pass is being thrown to a player that I can't see.

    To me its about my AI defenders placing more importance on getting between the rim and their assignment after a made basket.

    Is this something that can possibly be looked at and cleaned up? Or is this something I will have to learn to accept this year? Or better yet, is it something I am maybe doing wrong that I can clean up myself?

    Edit: Biggest take away from the stream yesterday was the catch hedge mechanic. I immediately implemented it with OKC and finally took down the Nuggets on Superstar. They appeared to be out of ideas offensively in the end which gave me a lot of satisfaction. I also enjoyed all of the POE defensive adjustments being explained. When the patch drops on PC it's gonna be fun trying them out.

    Great to see you streaming OG! Much appreciated!
    Exactly. This is the same problem I posted about a couple of posts ago. Any ideas how to stop this?

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    • willo1822
      Rookie
      • Sep 2016
      • 18

      #107
      Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

      Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
      If Im reading you right (Durant as the ball handler and Curry the screener), I think you'd go to Durant's individual def setting and input this. Apologies I havent got the screen in front of me.

      Screen: Over
      Hedge: Stay attached

      It wouldnt matter what you inpur the (center) stuff because in this example there is no center involved in the PNR.

      Alabamarob is this correct?
      The problem with that is, if Durant receives a PNR from Green on the next position then Green's defender would stay attached. Assuming Green is a PF and not a center, which he will play a lot of both. You would want Green's defender to soft/hard hedge.

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      • willo1822
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 18

        #108
        Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

        Originally posted by OGSPORTS
        Excellent question.

        The CPU can do that now. That being "sig" hedge defenders. You see this all the time with Draymond Green or when Boston will try and stay attached when Isiah Thomas is in a bad PnR situation. These are the good conversations I'm talking about. I'm very excited with where we're going!
        IMO in the future the logic should work like this. You would set Curry settings to Over and Hard Hedge for example as the preferred way you want him defended if he was the ball handler. On his center screen you would set him to stay attached, so that anybody he set a screen for his defender would stay attached.

        Or another example would Durant. He will be the ball handler in PNR and the Screener in PNR. I'd want Over/Soft or Hard Hedge/Stay Attached in some combo for any action he is involved in. Only to be overridden by the individual settings of the other player. Like if Curry set a pick for KD then Curry would not Soft/Hard Hedge because his mans priority is really to stay attached.

        But Zaza's Hedge could be set to double. And that could override the other settings.

        The Hedge (Center) really isnt necessary or could be changed to (Screener).

        I should be able to Globally say Dirk or Niko (NO HEDGE) regardless and they could be at the PF or C position.

        The Stay Attached options should be attached to Curry and Korver types as well coming of Down Screens in Off Ball scenarios.

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        • willo1822
          Rookie
          • Sep 2016
          • 18

          #109
          Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

          Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
          Of course; my bad. Im at work trying to get my stuff done while contemplating the intricacies of pick and roll defense.
          Doesnt have to be a small ball lineup. Consider the stating 5. With Zaza and Green. The Warriors are going to run PNR with KD and he will receive picks from all other players. Stay Attached on KD will impact Green at the 4 and Curry at PG the same. I dont play with the Warriors but I would run this offensively all the time. Not even as an intention exploit but because it makes could basketball sense to get Curry open threes.

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          • blk5tar5
            Pro
            • Nov 2014
            • 809

            #110
            Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

            Originally posted by ecantona9
            Exactly. This is the same problem I posted about a couple of posts ago. Any ideas how to stop this?
            To stop that cheese is to switch to your Center and turbo back so the other user is not throwing a long bomb. I use to get beat by that way when I was on Broadcast view. I switch to 2K view to avoid that. Also what you can do as well put extended pressure on the guards then forcing the other user to play a slow pace game.

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            • ecantona9
              Rookie
              • Jul 2002
              • 35

              #111
              Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

              Originally posted by blk5tar5
              To stop that cheese is to switch to your Center and turbo back so the other user is not throwing a long bomb. I use to get beat by that way when I was on Broadcast view. I switch to 2K view to avoid that. Also what you can do as well put extended pressure on the guards then forcing the other user to play a slow pace game.
              I was talking about when playing against the CPU, but I will try both options. Thanks.

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              • LorenzoDC
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 1857

                #112
                Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                Unless I'm doing something wrong, I'm not getting No Hedge to work in MyLeague on XB1. Check out this over/no hedge setup on Jeremy Lin with Diallo as the center:

                <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LneGK7BnpDA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
                Last edited by LorenzoDC; 10-03-2016, 01:08 PM.

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                • QNo
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 1821

                  #113
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                  Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                  Unless I'm doing something wrong, I'm not getting No Hedge to work in MyLeague on XB1. Check out this over/no hedge setup on Jeremy Linn wirh Diallo as the center:

                  <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LneGK7BnpDA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
                  That's their C, right? The other big is on the perimeter. You've got PnR (C) set to over/soft hedge.

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                  • blk5tar5
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 809

                    #114
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                    Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                    Unless I'm doing something wrong, I'm not getting No Hedge to work in MyLeague on XB1. Check out this over/no hedge setup on Jeremy Linn wirh Diallo as the center:

                    <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LneGK7BnpDA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
                    The only thing you did wrong is put “NO HEDGE” in the wrong area. If you see below you’ll see Soft hedge on the Center. So if you put no hedge on the center part then there wouldn’t be any problem.
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                    • psydefx
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 370

                      #115
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                      are these streams archived? i googled for it but couldn't find it - is he on twitch?

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                      • Impetuous65
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 1451

                        #116
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                        Scott, from your stream I asked you about on screen display(OSD) if ACE is ON of OFF we should be notified in what defensive scheme were in so we don't mess up the D and call it broke. Just like when we are on offense, and we have it on the right setting to display the info "User Play - Show ALL" we get the OSD as to what type of Freelance we are in, so we act accordingly. This should also be on the defensive side of the ball so the gamer, will not be out of position and mess up the defense. Not all of us understand the scheme or our place in the scheme, but if we know what the D is focused on, it could mitigate the "AI is broken" talk.

                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m2gvPLmrO7Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                        Last edited by Impetuous65; 10-03-2016, 03:38 PM.

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                        • Smirkin Dirk
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5175

                          #117
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                          I like that idea a lot.
                          2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                          • alabamarob
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3340

                            #118
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                            A short video on how defensive settings play out in a user v user HOF game. I was in all off ball gap, over screen, catch hedge most of the game. My opponent seemed to be in off ball tight and no hedge most of game. If you have any questions or comments please let me know.

                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bR2_oG4mvi8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
                            Psn: Alabamarob
                            Xbox: Alabama Rob

                            Youtube: 2k Hawks

                            Settings I play on.
                            Minutes: 12
                            Difficulty: HOF
                            Online or Offline player: Both
                            In a MLO: Yes

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                            • Antonioshellz
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 285

                              #119
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                              Nice video man. Lots of good info here.
                              Last edited by Antonioshellz; 10-03-2016, 09:53 PM. Reason: messed up quote

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                              • alabamarob
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3340

                                #120
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                                Originally posted by Antonioshellz
                                Nice video man. Lots of good info here.
                                Thanks man. To be honest i was suprised the settings worked. I will test out other settings as i play more games, and have to stop diff teams/threats.
                                Psn: Alabamarob
                                Xbox: Alabama Rob

                                Youtube: 2k Hawks

                                Settings I play on.
                                Minutes: 12
                                Difficulty: HOF
                                Online or Offline player: Both
                                In a MLO: Yes

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