Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[garyraymond23]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

would you recommend to play a Post Scoring PF then?

or is post scoring useless at all in pro-am/park ?

I wouldn't recommend making any post scoring archetype if you're playing with randoms.

Nobody will pass you the ball in post up situations, especially not Pro AM. Park nobody really passes anyway lol

I ran post scorer all last year and yeah don’t even make one unless you are ok with never being used by your teammates


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^^^ nobody passes the ball to post scorers

I would say don't make it your main build if you make one. It is my MyCareer/Park build for now because there is better spacing on the Park with less players and MyCareer is tailored for users with around a 90 OVR. You will be underutilized in both ProAm and Park unless you run with friends and the block animations when you do your moves will drive you insane(if you are a hardcore/competitive person).

Agreed with the bolded section

I have 6'11 Rebounding Post Scorer 91 overall. One on one I'm almost unstoppable and I get tons of rebounds because of good positioning but once you battling in paint with real bigs - there is no chance. This build is surprisingly great dunker as well, I can finish many mover with huge slams.

Anyway I created 7.2 287 lbs Sharpshooting Post Scorer and it is already more impactful archetype, 88 OVR now. I already have most of a badges and can hit threes with ease, even some contested too. I get way more blocks and contesting shots with right stick works better.

When my random teammates don't feed me in a Paint for a post moves - I hit threes, if they don't feed me again I don't share ball when I get rebounds, driving to other part of a court and posting up by myself. They see how smartly I score in a post and then they starting to feed me...
I really like to play 2vs2. Here I have tons of advantage, if my teammate can beat his match-up one on one then he won't see any double-teams, you know why.

lol I've done the same thing in the few games I've played with randoms, but it's just infuriating.

I had a shot creating post scorer that was essentially unguardable. I would score effortlessly vs everyone, yet nobody would ever pass me the ball. The idiotic shot creating playmaking PG's would just chuck up horrendous, heavily contested layups every time.

Haven't played with randoms since I lost 2 park games in a row lol

FWIW: If you play with friends, the post scoring archetype is OK. Pro AM it's alright, park it's better. But park is a 3 point game now IMO.

I ran park with:

SG shot creating slasher

PG sharpshooting shot creator

PF shot creating sharpshooter

and we'd win 80-85% of our games, it was one of our least effective combos tho, not enough 3PT shooting.

[Housh123]

Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Game with my 86 pure post scorer. I was huge on being a passing threat from the post last year, the post is extremely easy to get triple doubles from if you play with good people. Really don’t think bigs on 2k prioritize passing enough. You should realistically average 5 plus assists if you play with friends most the time. If you a big getting like 1 assists per game i already know you ain’t passing


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[ph33]

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[IM]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/c7da2d1a8e48adba3f0cdb97f6f33c1d.jpg[/IMG]Game with my 86 pure post scorer. I was huge on being a passing threat from the post last year, the post is extremely easy to get triple doubles from if you play with good people. Really don’t think bigs on 2k prioritize passing enough. You should realistically average 5 plus assists if you play with friends most the time. If you a big getting like 1 assists per game i already know you ain’t passing

I gotta say though, you are #blessed to have the ball enough to take 16 shots and have double digit assists. When I play with my friends my stat line is usually no more than 5 shots, but with 6+ assists. Not complaining though...I just try to make sure things are not too clogged up and that everybody gets to eat equally. My dudes will hit me when the time is right.

[Bankside]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Game with my 86 pure post scorer. I was huge on being a passing threat from the post last year, the post is extremely easy to get triple doubles from if you play with good people. Really don’t think bigs on 2k prioritize passing enough. You should realistically average 5 plus assists if you play with friends most the time. If you a big getting like 1 assists per game i already know you ain’t passing


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Pure Post on PF or C? and whats your height/weight?

[HowDareI]

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It's true but also not true that people don't pass to post players. It really depends on what kind of randoms you're playing with.

I have a 7'3 post/shot creator, unless I'm getting doubled anything from the free throw line in and I'm eating.

The problem is, and I know everyone's guilty as a big, is you clog the paint too much and it'll annoy your teammates.

Step out baseline extended and expand your range. Hit a couple 10-15 foot jumpers keep the d honest and give your guards a lane to drive and (hopefully) kick.

If your 3 point shots maxed and you're on fire you can hit corner 3s.

Play good defense, grab a few boards, dish back out of the post to a shooter grab some assists.. show your teammates you're not just a black hole of offense that does drop step dunks every possession.

The way I approach a pro am walk on with my post scorer is this:

Off the tip if you win, 9 times out of 10 the power forward or point guard will try and spam you the ball into the paint. About half the time it's a free dunk and half the time it's a turnover, on you.
Be smart immediately, if you don't think it's a surefire dunk, pass out. If on the first play you get stripped or stuffed people automatically assume you're selfish and/or trash.

Be a good defender, because again, if your matchups cooking you you're not touching the ball.

I can't tell you how important it is to make extra passes. I average more assists as a center than I do as my guard or forward because everyone wants to come and double. Be quick and icon pass to open players.

Basically your whole offensive game is predicated on your willingness to pass. If you're unselfish, you'll get the ball more and be able to operate in the post a few times.

Not saying there won't be games where guys just refuse to pass, but you can play any position and get froze out of a game by these types.

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[garyraymond23]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

It's true but also not true that people don't pass to post players. It really depends on what kind of randoms you're playing with.

I have a 7'3 post/shot creator, unless I'm getting doubled anything from the free throw line in and I'm eating.

The problem is, and I know everyone's guilty as a big, is you clog the paint too much and it'll annoy your teammates.

Step out baseline extended and expand your range. Hit a couple 10-15 foot jumpers keep the d honest and give your guards a lane to drive and (hopefully) kick.

If your 3 point shots maxed and you're on fire you can hit corner 3s.

Play good defense, grab a few boards, dish back out of the post to a shooter grab some assists.. show your teammates you're not just a black hole of offense that does drop step dunks every possession.

The way I approach a pro am walk on with my post scorer is this:

Off the tip if you win, 9 times out of 10 the power forward or point guard will try and spam you the ball into the paint. About half the time it's a free dunk and half the time it's a turnover, on you.
Be smart immediately, if you don't think it's a surefire dunk, pass out. If on the first play you get stripped or stuffed people automatically assume you're selfish and/or trash.

Be a good defender, because again, if your matchups cooking you you're not touching the ball.

I can't tell you how important it is to make extra passes. I average more assists as a center than I do as my guard or forward because everyone wants to come and double. Be quick and icon pass to open players.

Basically your whole offensive game is predicated on your willingness to pass. If you're unselfish, you'll get the ball more and be able to operate in the post a few times.

Not saying there won't be games where guys just refuse to pass, but you can play any position and get froze out of a game by these types.

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Side note: a shot creating post scorer is DEADLY from mid range, that's my bread and butter in park.

[HowDareI]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Side note: a shot creating post scorer is DEADLY from mid range, that's my bread and butter in park.

I barely play park but I assume it would be. People just don't expect you to shoot after you take em down low and bully them..
All day I'm just hitting leaning free throw line shots cuz no one respects it..once they do, I'm driving in..

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[garyraymond23]

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I barely play park but I assume it would be. People just don't expect you to shoot after you take em down low and bully them..
All day I'm just hitting leaning free throw line shots cuz no one respects it..once they do, I'm driving in..

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Exactly how I played as well. It's one of the better builds IMO, it just gets underutilized due to selfish teammates, it's a shame.

It has respectable rebounding/defense as well as long as you can user it correctly. It's one of my favorite builds, it's just the whole "randoms don't pass" that makes it's value go down.

[Housh123]

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Pure Post on PF or C? and whats your height/weight?

Mad hieght and weight


Pure post


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[illwill10]

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How's the Playmaking/3pt build for PG?

I'm planning on doing a Defense/SC center.

[HowDareI]

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Exactly how I played as well. It's one of the better builds IMO, it just gets underutilized due to selfish teammates, it's a shame.

It has respectable rebounding/defense as well as long as you can user it correctly. It's one of my favorite builds, it's just the whole "randoms don't pass" that makes it's value go down.

I don't get many like "blocks" but I get blocks off of keeping my hands up and tipping the ball. I'm not chasing anyone down or anything.
The good thing is strength too, I get a lot of boards by pushing people out of position especially offensive boards.

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[CBAT]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I have a 6'9 shot creating slasher. I thought I would be at the max for 75 ball control. It goes up to 72 and I have two more upgrades. Anyone have any idea if it goes to 75 AND how long to unlock it? Is it worth even worrying about?

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Shot creator primary slasher Secondary is one of the most op builds on the game . Especially combined with the driving animation. It’s almost an automatic bucket.

[garyraymond23]

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I don't get many like "blocks" but I get blocks off of keeping my hands up and tipping the ball. I'm not chasing anyone down or anything.
The good thing is strength too, I get a lot of boards by pushing people out of position especially offensive boards.

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I actually get a lot of blocks on that build for some reason like 2.5 - 3 bpg, but I play a TON of help defense because my teammates purposely let them drive past so I can meet them at the rim for a heavily contested shot

[ph33]

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Shot creator primary slasher Secondary is one of the most op builds on the game . Especially combined with the driving animation. It’s almost an automatic bucket.

Yep, the driving dunks/layups are basically a free speed boost. I already love my SG, he's going to be nuts when he gets his ball control to 86........although that may be months away because I think you get it when you're a 94 or 95