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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #2386
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by jyoung
    My 6'6" 230 playmaking defender gets blown by on a regular basis by shorter, lighter, and weaker players who have no bruiser badge to counter my silver bruiser.

    This play that I've cued up at 9:56 is a good example of what I see on a nightly basis, despite being taller, heavier, and stronger than 95% of the point guards that I'm matched up against:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AwhTzRVN8eg?start=596" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I get that bullfighter "ole" defense animation at least 2 or 3 times per game whenever I'm guarding people with this playmaking defender.
    Was that a vertical contest block? I’m 100% sure I would have fouled
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    First Team Defense !!!

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    • ViolenceFight
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1141

      #2387
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?



      Mixtape Numero Dos. Hustle Beastbrook.
      6'4 205lbs Playmaking Slasher.
      Music is probably NSFW. Or at least young children

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      Female Russell Westbrook.

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      • Housh123
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 1173

        #2388
        Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Jesus the Ben Simmons build is efficiency personified if you have the willpower to only take good shots. Passing accuracy is amazing, Your dunk on guys, play D, and if your team needs rebounding help you can put up a 10 rebound game fairly consistently. Every time i get put in a game with 2 AI bigs i go off on the boards.



        And yes.....my PG needs to send me a thank you note. Dude was gunning up a storm

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        Last edited by Housh123; 12-17-2017, 02:38 PM.

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        • bhzmfia14
          Rookie
          • Oct 2009
          • 172

          #2389
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by Housh123
          Jesus the Ben Simmons build is efficiency personified if you have the willpower to only take good shots. Passing accuracy is amazing, Your dunk on guys, play D, and if your team needs rebounding help you can put up a 10 rebound game fairly consistently. Every time i get put in a game with 2 AI bigs i go off on the boards.



          And yes.....my PG needs to send me a thank you note. Dude was gunning up a storm

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          Thinking about trying this build out. In 2k16 and 2K17, I had a versatile forward that was a triple double machine. Ball handling wasn't nearly as good as I'm assuming the Ben Simmons setup is. Just to make sure this is the correct way to build, its P&H as primary and D & F secondary?

          Also, what does his speed and speed w/ball max out at ?

          This would be only my 2nd build since the game came out. I only have a 6'7 shot creating playmaker SG right now.

          It would be great if 2k didn't make you go through an entire story line before seeing your maxed out attributes. I'm not sure if they changed that or not since I haven't created a new player in a while. I appreciate your help.
          PSN: bhzmafia14

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          • Housh123
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1173

            #2390
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by bhzmfia14
            Thinking about trying this build out. In 2k16 and 2K17, I had a versatile forward that was a triple double machine. Ball handling wasn't nearly as good as I'm assuming the Ben Simmons setup is. Just to make sure this is the correct way to build, its P&H as primary and D & F secondary?



            Also, what does his speed and speed w/ball max out at ?



            This would be only my 2nd build since the game came out. I only have a 6'7 shot creating playmaker SG right now.



            It would be great if 2k didn't make you go through an entire story line before seeing your maxed out attributes. I'm not sure if they changed that or not since I haven't created a new player in a while. I appreciate your help.


            Yep you got archetypes right


            Speed with ball is only like 75 but feels like high 80s in game because of gold one man fast break


            My dude is 6’ 10 so that’s probably why my speed is only 75 but it feels much faster in fans

            Never have speed issues even against guards



            Point forward builds are still as OP as they were last year honestly. They could shoot 3s like sharps last year so that was over the top but I’m still around 50% even with only a 74 rating.


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            • MDSavageBeast
              Rookie
              • Jun 2017
              • 264

              #2391
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by shawnydee
              just made that LeBron build yall talkin about playmaking slasher 6'8 250 ill see what hes about

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              You'll love it, bro. You can literally do everything defensively and offensively. Dribble, dunk, shoot the open three occasionally, mid range is money, good defense, strong, chasedown blocks. It's crazy.

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              • MDSavageBeast
                Rookie
                • Jun 2017
                • 264

                #2392
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by Housh123
                Jesus the Ben Simmons build is efficiency personified if you have the willpower to only take good shots. Passing accuracy is amazing, Your dunk on guys, play D, and if your team needs rebounding help you can put up a 10 rebound game fairly consistently. Every time i get put in a game with 2 AI bigs i go off on the boards.



                And yes.....my PG needs to send me a thank you note. Dude was gunning up a storm

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                27 points on ten shots is amazing.

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                • HowDareI
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1900

                  #2393
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by Housh123
                  Jesus the Ben Simmons build is efficiency personified if you have the willpower to only take good shots. Passing accuracy is amazing, Your dunk on guys, play D, and if your team needs rebounding help you can put up a 10 rebound game fairly consistently. Every time i get put in a game with 2 AI bigs i go off on the boards.



                  And yes.....my PG needs to send me a thank you note. Dude was gunning up a storm

                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                  I don't actually have a point guard build but I'm thinking bout using this as one..

                  What's the actual build you used?

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                  I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                  I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

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                  • Housh123
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1173

                    #2394
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by HowDareI
                    I don't actually have a point guard build but I'm thinking bout using this as one..

                    What's the actual build you used?

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                    6’ 10’ Slashing Playmaker small forward


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                    • HowDareI
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1900

                      #2395
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Housh123
                      6’ 10’ Slashing Playmaker small forward


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                      Default weight ?

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                      I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                      I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                      -Allen Iverson

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                      • Housh123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1173

                        #2396
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by HowDareI
                        Default weight ?

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                        230


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                        • HowDareI
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1900

                          #2397
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Housh123
                          230


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                          Alright cool I'ma try it out later

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                          I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                          I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                          -Allen Iverson

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                          • shawnydee
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 839

                            #2398
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Housh123
                            6’ 10’ Slashing Playmaker small forward


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                            playmaking as the first archetype?
                            cause i did a 6'8 250 slasher first playmaker second

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                            • Housh123
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1173

                              #2399
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by shawnydee
                              playmaking as the first archetype?
                              cause i did a 6'8 250 slasher first playmaker second

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                              Yeah playmaking is first

                              I modeled it off Ben Simmons and not LeBron

                              Simmons is very passive compared to LeBron scoring wise


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                              • shawnydee
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 839

                                #2400
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Housh123
                                Yeah playmaking is first

                                I modeled it off Ben Simmons and not LeBron

                                Simmons is very passive compared to LeBron scoring wise


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                                i went with slasher first cause i wanted better finishing ability. 86 dunks 90 driving layup. gold posterizer acrobat and relentless. silver playmaking badges

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