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  • prete26
    Banned
    • Jan 2015
    • 12

    #2656
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by jyoung
    I've been contemplating making a Wizards Jordan build 6'5" shot creating post scorer gets hall of fame post badges + 91 post ratings + pro dribble moves.


    Sounds like a blast, just online that iso post game that Michael made famous and Kobe emulated just slows down the pace too much for this ‘sim’.

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    • howardphillips214
      MVP
      • Jan 2018
      • 1928

      #2657
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by prete26
      What’s he Jordan build you speak of. 6’6 pure slash?
      Yep. As stated earlier, my first game I had 40. My other games this morning were 34 and 44 with 10 rebounds the last game. I had just unlocked relentless HOF before I hopped off last night. Is about to be murder tonight.

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      • jyoung
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11132

        #2658
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by prete26
        Sounds like a blast, just online that iso post game that Michael made famous and Kobe emulated just slows down the pace too much for this ‘sim’.
        In my experiences playing Pro Am this year I have learned that you can run & gun and live off fastbreaks all game long against bad teams.

        But when you play against good teams, they will get back and stop 90% of your transition scoring opportunities, and the game will come down to who can execute the best in the halfcourt.

        This Wizards Jordan build should require a double team to stop in the halfcourt if there are no lockdown defenders present in the other team's lineup.

        And on defense, it should have no problem guarding any non-speed boosting perimeter build with its high strength rating, gold bruiser, bronze defensive stopper, and bronze rim protector.
        Last edited by jyoung; 01-20-2018, 11:22 PM.

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        • Rockie_Fresh88
          Lockdown Defender
          • Oct 2011
          • 9621

          #2659
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by jyoung
          In my experiences playing Pro Am this year I have learned that you can run & gun and live off fastbreaks all game long against bad teams.

          But when you play against good teams, they will get back and stop 90% of your transition scoring opportunities, and the game will come down to who can execute the best in the halfcourt.

          This Wizards Jordan build should require a double team to stop in the halfcourt if there are no lockdown defenders present in the other team's lineup.

          And on defense, it should have no problem guarding any non-speed boosting perimeter build with its high strength rating, gold bruiser, bronze defensive stopper, and bronze rim protector.
          Won’t the lateral quickness be much slower ?
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          • prete26
            Banned
            • Jan 2015
            • 12

            #2660
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by jyoung
            In my experiences playing Pro Am this year I have learned that you can run & gun and live off fastbreaks all game long against bad teams.

            But when you play against good teams, they will get back and stop 90% of your transition scoring opportunities, and the game will come down to who can execute the best in the halfcourt.

            This Wizards Jordan build should require a double team to stop in the halfcourt if there are no lockdown defenders present in the other team's lineup.

            And on defense, it should have no problem guarding any non-speed boosting perimeter build with its high strength rating, gold bruiser, bronze defensive stopper, and bronze rim protector.
            You’re preaching to the choir, I hate how his game just feels like a track meet half the time. I’ve been dying to try to run half court sets. Then there would be more of a variety to the builds we see.

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            • franzis
              MVP
              • Mar 2008
              • 1451

              #2661
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Once you hit the low 90s as overall, you fully realize how bad is having the game, and not you, deciding which white bars to unlock.

              I spent a month for hitting 93 and I unlocked two attributes I basically didn't care about.

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              • JustCallMeSleepy
                Rookie
                • Dec 2015
                • 158

                #2662
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by jyoung
                I've been contemplating making a Wizards Jordan build 6'5" shot creating post scorer gets hall of fame post badges + 91 post ratings + pro dribble moves.





                In this game, you don't put defense in your build to get more blocks; you do it to negate the unbreakable posterizer canimations and the unfavorable postspin/dropstep canimations that will automatically move your defender out of position.

                And there's really not much of a trade-off offensively since you still have hall of fame posterizer. Go check out TheFinalEvent 97's youtube channel if you won't take my word for how good the offensive abilities are on that two-way athletic build:

                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNE...WHwliIcteHfpMw


                That shot creating post scorer sounds awesome, bro. I hope your team lets you go to work.


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                • hanzsomehanz
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3275

                  #2663
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
                  That shot creating post scorer sounds awesome, bro. I hope your team lets you go to work.


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                  I don't like the build 1 bit and Young knows this lol.

                  You'll need to be a SF and every SF matchup will be taller than you.

                  I'm also concerned as to how long you'll have to grind upgrades until you unlock the 75 ball control rating but it is actually 76 I belive the cap is for 6ft5.

                  Other than being unorthodox why do you need a 6ft5 SF to be slowing down the pace in post isolation?

                  Young loves these unorthodox builds though and he'll find a way to make it work so I'll let him eat his pie in peace lol

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                  • JustCallMeSleepy
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 158

                    #2664
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                    I don't like the build 1 bit and Young knows this lol.

                    You'll need to be a SF and every SF matchup will be taller than you.

                    I'm also concerned as to how long you'll have to grind upgrades until you unlock the 75 ball control rating but it is actually 76 I belive the cap is for 6ft5.

                    Other than being unorthodox why do you need a 6ft5 SF to be slowing down the pace in post isolation?

                    Young loves these unorthodox builds though and he'll find a way to make it work so I'll let him eat his pie in peace lol

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                    lol, it’s like a self-challenge build tho. I dig it. I’d certainly be hesitant to post score as a 6’10 guy vs a 7’3 guy, so I’d imagine 6’5 vs 6’8+ would be challenging, but rewarding. Maybe if he went in with 3 bigger guys?


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                    • howardphillips214
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1928

                      #2665
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Going post on the wing is pointless, believe you me. Especially when a shot creator first/anything typically gets you a 70+ post rating anyways. I'm not saying they can't be effective, I just have never seen it. I've got almost 700 walk on games and anyone posting outside of the restricted have been pretty inconsistent. The ONLY thing I'll concede as effective would be post spin technician on the perimeter. But my baby shot creator is 6'4 with a post rating of 74 with post spin bronze. Brick wall silver and post spin silver are not worth the low 80 off ball speed vs 90 if you were to use shot creator/playmaker/slasher

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                      • howardphillips214
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 1928

                        #2666
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Also, post first/sharp second was supposed to be the ultimate mid-range fade player and with Max mid and post rating I'll go 30% on mid-range fades. Completely useless build in my opinion putting post in anything.

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                        • Housh123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1173

                          #2667
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by howardphillips214
                          Also, post first/sharp second was supposed to be the ultimate mid-range fade player and with Max mid and post rating I'll go 30% on mid-range fades. Completely useless build in my opinion putting post in anything.


                          Post fade was toned down because of ppl like me who were going hog wild on them in 2016 and 2017 lol


                          They work in 2k18 pretty good tho, you shouldn’t be shooting 30% on them. I make most the ones i take. Only difference is in 2k18 it’s not really a move to just whip out one on one. I do it when i know the fade will get me open. Like when you KNOW your man won’t jump at it then do it. When i back down and my defender shoots his hands up that’s my cue to fade and it’s usually a green. If they don’t jump it registers as a wide open shot. Off rebounds is really surprising too.



                          I will say that I’m coming from my experience with a PURE POST SCORER. 99 fade and post offense so that probably is why mine work so good.


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                          • shawnydee
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 839

                            #2668
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            any ideas how to make the game more enjoyable cause im getting bored.

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                            • ph33
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3261

                              #2669
                              Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by shawnydee
                              any ideas how to make the game more enjoyable cause im getting bored.

                              Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk


                              Nope. The game is what it is. Enjoy being stuck with the same build the rest of the year.

                              Or, as this ad puts it, you can be great again if you buy some VC on sale. Lucky us!

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                              • shawnydee
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 839

                                #2670
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by ph33
                                Nope. The game is what it is. Enjoy being stuck with the same build the rest of the year.

                                Or, as this ad puts it, you can be great again if you buy some VC on sale. Lucky us!

                                lol facts. i have lots of builds but i just feel this game aint like last year. im getting bored of playin it.

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