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  • Ray Vibes
    Elite Allstar
    • Mar 2011
    • 519

    #2641
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
    ^^^^Have you used your build in team yet ? I’ve had him for a month or so and don’t feel confident with him lol .


    What do you guys think of a pure athletic finisher 7’
    I have use him in team, I wasn't dropping stats like this but he held his own. I just played against a person using a pure athletic build and he just destroyed me. Almost fouled out trying to block his dunks lol

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    • jyoung
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11132

      #2642
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Any inside build that doesn't have at least silver rim protector becomes baby food this year against builds that have gold/HOF posterizer or gold/HOF post moves.

      Two-way athletic finisher is a much better build than the pure athletic finisher for that reason. You'll still get HOF posterizer, but you're not baby food on defense like the pure athletic finisher is.

      I played on a team with a two-way athletic finisher who dropped 60 points in a game earlier this month.

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      • howardphillips214
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1928

        #2643
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by jyoung
        Any inside build that doesn't have at least silver rim protector becomes baby food this year against builds that have gold/HOF posterizer or gold/HOF post moves.

        Two-way athletic finisher is a much better build than the pure athletic finisher for that reason. You'll still get HOF posterizer, but you're not baby food on defense like the pure athletic finisher is.

        I played on a team with a two-way athletic finisher who dropped 60 points in a game earlier this month.

        Putting defense in your build means you lose more on offense than you would if you would have gone pure. The ten points they add to defensive stats and the loss of some offensive badges is not a good trade off in this game. Sure, you'll get more blocks but your off ball speed, mid, 3, all of that is worth more than 10 points to defense.

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        • Rockie_Fresh88
          Lockdown Defender
          • Oct 2011
          • 9621

          #2644
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          I made him a PF . We have a 6’11 Def / Sharp at the 3 with gold rim protector and a slashing rebounder at the 5. I’ll be at the 4. We can switch matchups. 6’10 was kind of short for me last year.

          Besides it’s just a walk on build for now. I have a two way rebounder already with gold rim Protector. And a sharpahooting rebounder with silver rim protector .
          Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 01-20-2018, 12:06 AM.
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          • howardphillips214
            MVP
            • Jan 2018
            • 1928

            #2645
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
            I made him a PF . We have a 6’11 Def / Sharp at the 3 with gold rim protector and a slashing rebounder at the 5. I’ll be at the 4. We can switch matchups. 6’10 was kind of short for me last year.

            Besides it’s just a walk on build for now. I have a two way rebounder already with gold rim Protector. And a sharpahooting rebounder with silver rim protector .
            What'd you go with? Pure athletic 7'?

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #2646
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by howardphillips214
              What'd you go with? Pure athletic 7'?
              Yep at the PF. Dude is an animal. People are doubling me all game and I’m still finishing. 99 layups and dunks lol. Haven’t even got my badges bronze yet lol.

              I can see him being liable on defense . He’s fun as hell
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              • TheFinalEvent97
                MVP
                • Jul 2016
                • 1519

                #2647
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by howardphillips214
                Putting defense in your build means you lose more on offense than you would if you would have gone pure. The ten points they add to defensive stats and the loss of some offensive badges is not a good trade off in this game. Sure, you'll get more blocks but your off ball speed, mid, 3, all of that is worth more than 10 points to defense.
                Off ball speed is the same, Pure gets +1 midrange, 3 is the same

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                • howardphillips214
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 1928

                  #2648
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                  Yep at the PF. Dude is an animal. People are doubling me all game and I’m still finishing. 99 layups and dunks lol. Haven’t even got my badges bronze yet lol.

                  I can see him being liable on defense . He’s fun as hell
                  Yeah, I toyed with it at C at 294 to be baby Shaq even tho Shaq was 7'1 and with a 70 rebound, strength, and block rating I still got dusted. He was never maxed at all, just a "hey, what would 10k do?" He was fun in career but I decided on a 7'3 rebounder first slasher second and he is a bum too. I'm more guard oriented anyway. I understand what's needed at every position but without the post being effective my Dirk build was not what I imagined. I love my slasher the most, he's so close to HOF posterizer and relentless I'm almost ready to just run him exclusively but I can put 30 on almost every team on a good percentage but 3s kill 2s every time.

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                  • howardphillips214
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 1928

                    #2649
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Well.. they done messed up. Ran a couple walk on games this morning with randoms. First on my point forward, we lose a close game but I had a good line, meh. Tried to get on my center who's a 71 over with Max rebound and silver hustle silver passing protector and get dusted by a same build badged out.

                    So long story short, I ran a Jordan build last year who looked strikingly like him I must say. Lol I watched a few videos on how to make him accurately look like him. SO I DID THE SAME THING AGAIN. #23 is back, I'm not running on any other characters anymore. They say you play the game to have fun, I know it's gonna put a target on my back too. Everyone's gonna be coming for me. It's time to eat faces again. I don't care. They brought out the beast.

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                    • howardphillips214
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1928

                      #2650
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Just dropped 40 on randoms and made their whole team quit.

                      Why oh why can't I convince my friends I could do this regularly with the right spacing? Buddy gets to run on his athletic, I can't run my slasher the same line up?

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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #2651
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Man this grind too much at this point lol . Nevermind about the pure athletic
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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #2652
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                          Man this grind too much at this point lol . Nevermind about the pure athletic

                          I can't imagine grinding pure ANYTHING at this point, especially because I know you got plenty of other players. You don't really feel the true pureness until you get some HOF badges.

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                          • shawnydee
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 839

                            #2653
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                            Man this grind too much at this point lol . Nevermind about the pure athletic
                            [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Ive been grindin ive been grindin (drunk in love instrumental)

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                            • prete26
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 12

                              #2654
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by howardphillips214
                              Well.. they done messed up. Ran a couple walk on games this morning with randoms. First on my point forward, we lose a close game but I had a good line, meh. Tried to get on my center who's a 71 over with Max rebound and silver hustle silver passing protector and get dusted by a same build badged out.

                              So long story short, I ran a Jordan build last year who looked strikingly like him I must say. Lol I watched a few videos on how to make him accurately look like him. SO I DID THE SAME THING AGAIN. #23 is back, I'm not running on any other characters anymore. They say you play the game to have fun, I know it's gonna put a target on my back too. Everyone's gonna be coming for me. It's time to eat faces again. I don't care. They brought out the beast.


                              What’s he Jordan build you speak of. 6’6 pure slash?

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                              • jyoung
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11132

                                #2655
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by prete26
                                What’s he Jordan build you speak of. 6’6 pure slash?
                                I've been contemplating making a Wizards Jordan build 6'5" shot creating post scorer gets hall of fame post badges + 91 post ratings + pro dribble moves.



                                Putting defense in your build means you lose more on offense than you would if you would have gone pure. The ten points they add to defensive stats and the loss of some offensive badges is not a good trade off in this game. Sure, you'll get more blocks but your off ball speed, mid, 3, all of that is worth more than 10 points to defense.
                                In this game, you don't put defense in your build to get more blocks; you do it to negate the unbreakable posterizer canimations and the unfavorable postspin/dropstep canimations that will automatically move your defender out of position.

                                And there's really not much of a trade-off offensively since you still have hall of fame posterizer. Go check out TheFinalEvent 97's youtube channel if you won't take my word for how good the offensive abilities are on that two-way athletic build:

                                Last edited by jyoung; 01-20-2018, 05:50 PM.

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