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  • tarantism
    Pro
    • Apr 2009
    • 979

    #1171
    Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

    Originally posted by Barata
    I tried everything I can think of. I tried to raise all CPU defensive sliders like defensive awareness, on ball defense, lateral quickness, etc. I tried to raise the drives contact. I tried increasing the help defensive slider on coach settings. I tried lowering User acceleration, speed, strength while raising these settings for the CPU. I tried to lower the "with ball" movement sliders and raise the "off ball" ones. I tried to edit the roster and raise every player's perimeter defense, inside defense, lateral quickness and help defense iq up to 99. I tried to give every player the "pick dodger" badge. Unfortunately nothing works.
    Yikes.

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    GO FALCONS!

    Originally posted by Tweeg
    In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

    He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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    • NYJin2011tm
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2762

      #1172
      Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

      I just played a game(play now) for the first time in months. It was still a bit easy to drive to basket off PnR sometimes. D overall wasn’t as bad as last time I played. It was easier than I remember playing on All Star. I was Knicks vs Nets(6 min quarters) leading most of game by double digits. Fourth quarter became brick city for me, which I was expecting. Nets cut it to four but I held on.

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      • tarantism
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 979

        #1173
        Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

        Does anybody know if team defense works better in Live 19? If it does I'm considering giving that game a shot, maybe update the rosters and whatnot. But only if the on court basketball is more realistic.

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        Last edited by tarantism; 02-24-2022, 02:39 AM.
        GO FALCONS!

        Originally posted by Tweeg
        In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

        He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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        • HeatLifer
          Rookie
          • Sep 2017
          • 232

          #1174
          Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

          Originally posted by tarantism
          Does anybody know if team defense works better in Live 19? If it does I'm considering giving that game a shot, maybe update the rosters and whatnot. But only if the on court basketball is more realistic.

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          I really enjoyed the gameplay of Live19, hell I loved Live10. But getting to the rim and finishing was ridiculously easy with nearly every player I tried as usual. Add in the lack of depth they allow you to have with coaches, players, tendencies, franchise and all that I quickly went back to 2K.

          There's certainly promise with the gameplay though. But there's a large gap of customization, animations to trigger for specific movement, game-mode depth, season control, and edits they've been far behind for a long time.
          Last edited by HeatLifer; 02-24-2022, 12:52 PM.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #1175
            Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

            I believe Live is free on both systems (assuming you have the pass) Give it a shot
            Last edited by The 24th Letter; 02-25-2022, 10:44 AM.

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            • AIRJ23
              MVP
              • Apr 2021
              • 2804

              #1176
              Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

              I rose CPU defense awareness/consistency and lateral quickness and on ball D to 98. It got too easy at my previous 80 setting. It’s really hard again and I have to really play well to be competitive. I also rose off ball speed/accel and lowered on ball. My only worry is if the CPU makes my new 98 slider settings too easy again. Then I don’t have a buffer to move up to. I always liked keeping those CPU D sliders at 80, knowing if they nerfed the defense I had room to go up. Now I’m almost maxed out.

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              • xCoachDx
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 1295

                #1177
                Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                Fired up 2K22 for the first time in months today.

                Felt like help defense was non existent from both the User and CPU.

                Unreal levels of frustration, disappointment, and disgust for 2K.

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                • jrose57
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3513

                  #1178
                  Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                  Originally posted by xCoachDx
                  Fired up 2K22 for the first time in months today.

                  Felt like help defense was non existent from both the User and CPU.

                  Unreal levels of frustration, disappointment, and disgust for 2K.
                  yesss and unsure if even sliders or anything roster or whatever can fix this BS! but so much potential of the game u can just tell!

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                  • xCoachDx
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1295

                    #1179
                    Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                    Originally posted by jrose57
                    yesss and unsure if even sliders or anything roster or whatever can fix this BS! but so much potential of the game u can just tell!

                    None of that will fix things because they have patched the game to turn off certain AI help that you cannot select to be turned on.

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                    • VictorMG
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 677

                      #1180
                      Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                      I really hope 2K is taking a good look at this thread and doing their best to upgrade the AI defense for 2K23. We've got a lot of good info in here.

                      Come on, 2K. I know you guys can do this.

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                      • leoribas3
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 409

                        #1181
                        Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                        Pretty mind blowing stuff remembering the first week of 2k22. Legit thought the game was perfect.

                        It ended up like the infamous PES 20 Demo, that was the best soccer gameplay ever made, just for the final release to mess it all up.

                        We really cant have nice things

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                        • tarantism
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 979

                          #1182
                          Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                          Originally posted by VictorMG
                          I really hope 2K is taking a good look at this thread and doing their best to upgrade the AI defense for 2K23. We've got a lot of good info in here.

                          Come on, 2K. I know you guys can do this.
                          We will never see the sort of game play or MyLeague realism improvements that we want unless two things happen:

                          1. They start working microtransactions into those modes. Think in game purchases for "sim" elements or something.

                          2. The MyPlayer and E-Sport community embraces realism over arcade style play.

                          I could definitely see #1 happening, and #2 will never happen because the unfortunate truth is that the average fan, especially the younger crowd, have no interest in realism.

                          2k simply does not make the same money on the sim community that they make on the MyTeam and MyPlayer kids who are spending their parents money on VC. Therefore they rightfully will never pour the same resources into those aspects of the game. NBA 2k is just basketball Fortnite now and that's how it's gonna be, sadly.

                          The best and only realistic hope for the sim community is that another game comes along propped on the basis of realism. I personally don't give a damn if it's NBA teams and branding as long as I get a competitive, challenging and realistic on court experience. Until something like that has the budget and exposure to lure buyers away from the 2k monopoly, we will never see what we could consider a better on court product from 2k because they have no incentive to do so.

                          Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
                          GO FALCONS!

                          Originally posted by Tweeg
                          In all of the pre release CCM news people like Looman kept saying, "You might see a guy like Kurt Warner come out of retirement. Anything can happen."

                          He should have said "You will see Kurt Warner come out of retirement. That's about it."

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                          • dvir10
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 502

                            #1183
                            Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                            Originally posted by tarantism
                            We will never see the sort of game play or MyLeague realism improvements that we want unless two things happen:

                            1. They start working microtransactions into those modes. Think in game purchases for "sim" elements or something.

                            2. The MyPlayer and E-Sport community embraces realism over arcade style play.

                            I could definitely see #1 happening, and #2 will never happen because the unfortunate truth is that the average fan, especially the younger crowd, have no interest in realism.

                            2k simply does not make the same money on the sim community that they make on the MyTeam and MyPlayer kids who are spending their parents money on VC. Therefore they rightfully will never pour the same resources into those aspects of the game. NBA 2k is just basketball Fortnite now and that's how it's gonna be, sadly.

                            The best and only realistic hope for the sim community is that another game comes along propped on the basis of realism. I personally don't give a damn if it's NBA teams and branding as long as I get a competitive, challenging and realistic on court experience. Until something like that has the budget and exposure to lure buyers away from the 2k monopoly, we will never see what we could consider a better on court product from 2k because they have no incentive to do so.

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                            You are right 100%!
                            But there is a secret third option...
                            Separate the offline and online experience.
                            When people bit***** about their stupid MY Player and rec center don’t make up for it by destroying the whole offline experience. And I think this will happen only when there will be a decent rival to 2K

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                            • vannwolfhawk
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 3412

                              #1184
                              Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                              I haven’t played this game since November as too many issues for me, but had to dig this up to find out if 2k fixed this or not over the cycle but just reading through a few posts on the last page it seems it reverted backwards again? What’s the consensus?

                              I’m gonna wait and see post release what people I trust and are non biased (alabamarob / ataman) say about the game and see the effects that gameplay updates have on sliders and the game before buying this year. I need updates to be separated from offline and online for me to even buy it! Pretty incredible though that this issue went a whole cycle not being addressed and 2 years in a row! Wow!
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                              • Bexthelegend
                                Pro
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 543

                                #1185
                                Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

                                This makes me sad for the series going forward.

                                We asked Czar to get us a sim experience, and on release he delivered. I called this the beat 2k I had ever played. Every month since then they've ripped off a piece of the defense that made me love this game on release

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