Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[Barata]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I must be crazy, because I didn't see any scrambling other than to stay with their man off the ball as they moved. No help defense other than the end pick and roll (which I think you played poorly as Steph-- that big stepped out hard and the lane was wide open). Curry even got into the paint and the center was in no way prepared to challenge him.

Exactly my thoughts, he could've easily make a layup with Curry.

This is what happens most of the times:

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[The 24th Letter]

Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

I must be crazy, because I didn't see any scrambling other than to stay with their man off the ball as they moved. No help defense other than the end pick and roll (which I think you played poorly as Steph-- that big stepped out hard and the lane was wide open). Curry even got into the paint and the center was in no way prepared to challenge him.

Think we’re itemizing a bit here, It’s all about making them uncomfortable for 24 seconds. Theoretically, There will always be a shot a player “could have taken”
To me, Jon Crotty stunting and recovering was crucial that whole play. It’s a video game, so it’s not going to look 1:1 (Mash Mario running etc. but I though it was a good sequences

You can argue (and it’d be a good one) that it shouldn’t be possible-but PJ Brown was definitely in position to block that shot…this is NBA 2K22, lol. There’s a reason he didn’t take it.

Also, With 3 seconds left on the shot clock, I’m. not worried about the dive man. (there was a switch, he wasn’t wide open) Purposely contested with PJ to get a maximum contest. I blocked the shot, I’d say it was a good decision. Situational ball.

[AIRJ23]

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But honestly please compare NBA 2k to an average NBA game. I mean I mostly only watch Pacers games for years but in these games an average offense consists of someone beating his man, driving to the rim and then getting challenged by someone. many times a kickout pass followed by a closeout is the result of this. We never get to this point in NBA 2k. If you are lucky someone is rotating over to the driving players. Most of the times he is too late to do anything. After the kickout the defense is completely collapsed. In the NBA, you can have this situation multiple times in an offensive possesion where everybody is rotating and closing out to the shooters.

The defense definitely doesn’t emulate the NBA right now, but I will say with CPU defense sliders at 80+, I find this game has defense that sticks to me much better than we see in real games. If I’m not running floppy’s, I can’t get an uncontested three. Or in game bandaids like OP blocks and passing steals slow me down. Even picks have been guarded well.

I WILL say that all of a sudden last night, pick and rolls were spammable and OP again. Which is worrisome as before it was working well.

[jk31]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

The defense definitely doesn’t emulate the NBA right now, but I will say with CPU defense sliders at 80+, I find this game has defense that sticks to me much better than we see in real games. If I’m not running floppy’s, I can’t get an uncontested three. Or in game bandaids like OP blocks and passing steals slow me down. Even picks have been guarded well.

I WILL say that all of a sudden last night, pick and rolls were spammable and OP again. Which is worrisome as before it was working well.

well i am mostly playing in online leagues so adjusting CPU sliders doesnt help.

[tarantism]

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Exactly my thoughts, he could've easily make a layup with Curry.



This is what happens most of the times:



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I've been trying to get rid of this "dribble sideways around your man and get right into the paint while the defense spins on a pylon". I can't get rid of it. It looks ridiculous, and obviously has no similarities to real basketball.

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[Luke Skywalker]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I've been trying to get rid of this "dribble sideways around your man and get right into the paint while the defense spins on a pylon". I can't get rid of it. It looks ridiculous, and obviously has no similarities to real basketball.

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Lower User speed and acceleration by 4 (45). Increase CPU speed, acceleration and lateral quickness by 5 (55).

[loso_34]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Think we’re itemizing a bit here, It’s all about making them uncomfortable for 24 seconds. Theoretically, There will always be a shot a player “could have taken”
To me, Jon Crotty stunting and recovering was crucial that whole play. It’s a video game, so it’s not going to look 1:1 (Mash Mario running etc. but I though it was a good sequences

You can argue (and it’d be a good one) that it shouldn’t be possible-but PJ Brown was definitely in position to block that shot…this is NBA 2K22, lol. There’s a reason he didn’t take it.

Also, With 3 seconds left on the shot clock, I’m. not worried about the dive man. (there was a switch, he wasn’t wide open) Purposely contested with PJ to get a maximum contest. I blocked the shot, I’d say it was a good decision. Situational ball.

What is 2k paying you?

[RedmanR]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

What is 2k paying you?

Lol[emoji23][emoji2960]

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[The 24th Letter]

Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

What is 2k paying you?

This going to be your thing now?

You got your “lol” you missed out on last time ^

Now move along and let the grown ups discuss please

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I've been trying to get rid of this "dribble sideways around your man and get right into the paint while the defense spins on a pylon". I can't get rid of it. It looks ridiculous, and obviously has no similarities to real basketball.

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They just have to fix the amount of space they give off ball to guys in the corner. They are up too tight. They try to help but react too late given the amount of space they have to cover. One of those guys need to be down at the low block with one foot touching the paint.

Other than that the "dribble sideways..." may be more difficult to correct. The defender tries to follow in a straight line when they should be taking more of an angle to keep themselves between the ball handler and the rim.

Still, fixing that off ball pressure would remove the clear path to the rim.

[rudyjuly2]

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They just have to fix the amount of space they give off ball to guys in the corner. They are up too tight. They try to help but react too late given the amount of space they have to cover. One of those guys need to be down at the low block with one foot touching the paint.

Other than that the "dribble sideways..." may be more difficult to correct. The defender tries to follow in a straight line when they should be taking more of an angle to keep themselves between the ball handler and the rim.

Still, fixing that off ball pressure would remove the clear path to the rim.

The corner 3s are odd because they do need to slack off more at times but there are times they give good shooters way too much room for wide open shots.

I do think this game would be a lot better if they fixed the sliders. 2K has a crap ton of sliders but it feels as tho 2K has lost interest in making sure they work. For those of us that want more help Defense that slider should be way more powerful. I’m not sure it does much at all. The user FT slider is 100% useless. At 0 or 50 or 100 I still have made 96 to 99% of my FTs in my four seasons. Real% is busted too.

[jk31]

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The corner 3s are odd because they do need to slack off more at times but there are times they give good shooters way too much room for wide open shots.

That is because often times the defense does neither thing with 100% effort. They sag off but not far enough and quick enough to stop the drive as help defender, but they still are too far away to efficiently take away the corner shot.

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

The corner 3s are odd because they do need to slack off more at times but there are times they give good shooters way too much room for wide open shots.

I do think this game would be a lot better if they fixed the sliders. 2K has a crap ton of sliders but it feels as tho 2K has lost interest in making sure they work. For those of us that want more help Defense that slider should be way more powerful. I’m not sure it does much at all. The user FT slider is 100% useless. At 0 or 50 or 100 I still have made 96 to 99% of my FTs in my four seasons. Real% is busted too.

Yeah they never guard the corner in transition and there's one play in my playbook where 50% of the time they abandon their guy they are guarding to rotate onto a guy needlessly.

[tarantism]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Has anybody tried moving to a 75+ rating scale for the defensive IQ ratings (help d and PnR D), along with the help defense slider in coach settings and global sliders? I was thinking about trying to max everything out to see if it makes a difference.

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[Barata]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Has anybody tried moving to a 75+ rating scale for the defensive IQ ratings (help d and PnR D), along with the help defense slider in coach settings and global sliders? I was thinking about trying to max everything out to see if it makes a difference.

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I tried everything I can think of. I tried to raise all CPU defensive sliders like defensive awareness, on ball defense, lateral quickness, etc. I tried to raise the drives contact. I tried increasing the help defensive slider on coach settings. I tried lowering User acceleration, speed, strength while raising these settings for the CPU. I tried to lower the "with ball" movement sliders and raise the "off ball" ones. I tried to edit the roster and raise every player's perimeter defense, inside defense, lateral quickness and help defense iq up to 99. I tried to give every player the "pick dodger" badge. Unfortunately nothing works.