Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[VictorMG]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I don’t understand why they keep changing the help defense……. Why would we ever not have help defense lol obviously game devs aren’t dumb so there’s bound to be some kind of reasoning here

Probably people not wanting their AI defenders to leave shooters and give up drive-and-kicks. Even though you should theoretically be able to change your help defense settings to mitigate that.

I did notice in one instance where help didnt come from cpu and I was able to go for a wide open lay-up. Didnt capture that ...

To be fair, that happens in real life, just not often.

[alabamarob]

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First time I played in a while, but the help defense looked good in the couple of games I played on default HOF.

There was help on drives and the roller, and there were a lot of kick out 3’s and ball rotation jumpers.

I don’t know if it is a one day thing, but the game is definitely realistic and playable today.

If it stays like this for a week, I may pick the game back up and start playing user v. user again.

[VictorMG]

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Just picked up the game after about a month and a half not playing it, and the pick-and-roll defense is better (intelligent drop coverage on default settings), but the pick-and-roll still boils down to a 2-on-2 affair, which isn't how defenses operate in real life.

Maybe changing the AI's off-ball pressure settings for individual players would mitigate that?

[jk31]

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Just picked up the game after about a month and a half not playing it, and the pick-and-roll defense is better (intelligent drop coverage on default settings), but the pick-and-roll still boils down to a 2-on-2 affair, which isn't how defenses operate in real life.

Maybe changing the AI's off-ball pressure settings for individual players would mitigate that?

for the 191209329th time: offball pressure settings DO. NOT. WORK.





Gap



Tight



Deny



Only difference is that with deny 1) the defenders won't rotate away in a help situation and 2) if they are 1 pass away, they stand in the passing lane.

[VictorMG]

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for the 191209329th time: offball pressure settings DO. NOT. WORK.

Jeez. Okay.

[xCoachDx]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Not sure what u guys are seeing. For me, I saw a bunch of help, silly and good ones by my AI teammates and CPU (see videos below). I did notice in one instance where help didnt come from cpu and I was able to go for a wide open lay-up. Didnt capture that ...

All these settings were set in gameplan for both cpu and user:
- off ball gap
- on ball gap
- go over and catch hedge (but cpu mainly just switched most of the time even at start of game before ACE kicks in)
- ACE on for both offense and defense
- pre-rotate Yes
- help and no rotation enabled
- double team on auto (only turned on in PHX gameplan against me, LAK)

This is last gen, All Star default sliders and default rosters with no edits.

Side note, the off ball screens were so effective that my AI Ellington couldnt fight through and allowed his man cpu Booker tons of open 3 opportunities. It could be due to his deficiency in defense rating.

https://twitter.com/jofri23/status/1468919084712558592?s=21

https://twitter.com/jofri23/status/1468919396630286337?s=21

https://twitter.com/jofri23/status/1...774789632?s=21

Clip #1 is the right idea, but idk why the help defender runs where he does and just stands there. Kind of weird.

Clip #2 looks nothing like #1 although they are relatively the same action. Help comes from the wrong side and there is no rotation from the second defender on the helpside.

Clip #3 the defender that steps in to tag the roll man isn’t the one that should be tagging.

Just a lot of errors in alot of places.

[DaWolf]

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In my opinion the help defense is in a very good spot right now. I see help on drives, cutter help, doubles etc. I hope this doesnt change.

[CujoMatty]

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Hadn't played in probably a month. Honestly thought I was done with the game. Was bored yesterday and played a game and it was infinitely better than last time I played.

[VictorMG]

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In my opinion the help defense is in a very good spot right now. I see help on drives, cutter help, doubles etc. I hope this doesnt change.

Hadn't played in probably a month. Honestly thought I was done with the game. Was bored yesterday and played a game and it was infinitely better than last time I played.

Are you guys seeing weak side help on pick-and-rolls? By far the biggest weakness of the game's defense IMO.

[AIRJ23]

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I haven’t played in a couple weeks since I’ve been on vacation but game was playing very good when I left.

The only imbalance now is CPU misses more shots than they did before and for some reason even with jump shot defensive strength sliders lowered to 10, I’m making a lot less contested shots than I was when it was at 25 before patch.

What’s weird is after the patch came out, with my same pre patch defensive sliders (50 for everything except jump shot strength sliders at 25) making contested shots was all of a sudden way too easy.

Then since defense got way nerfed after the patch, I had to raise all defensive sliders for CPU to compensate.

Currently I have CPU on ball defense/defensive consistency and awareness/ lateral quickness at 60, layup and close shot defensive strength for both sides at 60, help defense strength for both sides at 60, and jump shot defensive strength for both sides at 10.

With those settings I’m having a fairly tough time making contested shots. I kinda like it cause it’s not like they never go in, and it’s more challenging, but it feels almost like it did with standard sliders when you couldn’t make any. Kinda weird.

[STLRams]

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Agreed, it seems like myself and the CPU are having a hard time hitting shots. Also if anyone know any setting I should change to get more fastbreaks I'm open to suggestions. I hardly see any fastbreaks or any players going coast to coast against a slow or weak defender

[Barata]

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I still find very easy to attack the basket, you just need a fast player to dunk/lay up whenever you want. The clip below is from today and it's on HOF difficulty.

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I tried a lot - and i mean A LOT - of sliders settings but nothing seem to work, the CPU just doesn't know how to defend it. I even tried to contain myself not using the PNR, but fast players like Morant, Lamelo, Harden etc can get past defenders regardless. Very frustrating.

[strosdood]

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I still find very easy to attack the basket, you just need a fast player to dunk/lay up whenever you want. The clip below is from today and it's on HOF difficulty.



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I tried a lot - and i mean A LOT - of sliders settings but nothing seem to work, the CPU just doesn't know how to defend it. I even tried to contain myself not using the PNR, but fast players like Morant, Lamelo, Harden etc can get past defenders regardless. Very frustrating.

ATD rosters with Schnaidt sliders helped my experience tremendously


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[ggsimmonds]

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Has there been any indication as to when we may see a patch to fix coach settings not working?

There's only 4 things that keep this game from greatness, and 3 of them are bugs.
Coach settings not working, injuries, and free throws.

The last thing is AI ACE adjustments (i.e. Wizards vs Clippers, Beal can go off for 40+ points and AI leaves Kennard on him never switches to have Kawhi do it)

[rudyjuly2]

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This area is mediocre at best for me. The lack of help defence, or how it’s a step too slow when it comes, hurts this game. The real NBA has guys driving a lot with many help rotations on a single play. You just don’t get that in this game. If you blow by people you get an easy bucket. Very poor in terms of drive and kick as a result because there is no reason to kick. So you have to have better than normal perimeter defenders to stop drives in the first place or the game isn’t competitive. It’s just not a good game and it doesn’t accurately reflect the modern NBA imo.