Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I'd love to go in on that if you don't mind. I'm struggling with sliders this year..

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I have help defence in main sliders at 100. I don’t touch the coach settings since many don’t seem to work and I’m praying I don’t have to do that junk every game to get something decent. Will be trying out the new update soon.

Are you talking help defense strength? That won’t do what you think it does. Or are you talking before game for each team in coaching sliders?

So I just played a game. Beating a defender 1 v 1 is easier than ever in the game. Which I’m not too mad at honestly. AS LONG AS it isn’t cheesable and stupid like 2K21. I CAN turbo around defenders now, fairly easily. But also not so easily I can cheese it over and over (or I just have inherent house rules that I implement like second nature).

Problem is I’m getting zero help defense. The help will slightly close in, but they won’t attack the offender and make a real difference. Same goes for my team. If the CPU beats me, they coast to the hole.

I tried putting my help D coaching slider to 100 during a game, it made no difference.

Ya yesterday help was way slower to recognize. I still had it but it was way more delayed than before. And on ball and contains we’re definitely lowered as well. Plus shooting percentages were through the roof. I just wish they would stop tweaking things. It’s impossible to lock into a game. Why the constant tweaks. At least for help and PNR containment?

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

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Are you talking help defense strength? That won’t do what you think it does. Or are you talking before game for each team in coaching sliders?



Ya yesterday help was way slower to recognize. I still had it but it was way more delayed than before. And on ball and contains we’re definitely lowered as well. Plus shooting percentages were through the roof. I just wish they would stop tweaking things. It’s impossible to lock into a game. Why the constant tweaks. At least for help and PNR containment?

It’s infuriating. Game keeps changing. I find I can’t have a decent game unless I nerf the CPU 3 point sliders.

Keep in mind I run a custom all time roster. But for example in my last game, Drazen Petrovic went 8/10 threes in the first half. And that’s coming off the bench. And that was with 45 CPU three sliders.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Well another update came through for me this morning… let the fun begin…

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Are you talking help defense strength? That won’t do what you think it does. Or are you talking before game for each team in coaching sliders?

Sorry, defensive awareness in the attribute sliders. I crank that to 100 since it’s supposed to provide more help Defense.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Sorry, defensive awareness in the attribute sliders. I crank that to 100 since it’s supposed to provide more help Defense.

That’s why you are getting super sticky d. It’s more on ball awareness than anything. Too high and they will mirror you. I have at 55 tops right now. I haven’t noticed that having any difference in help defense at all. I found this out early in cycle on 1 of the updates when I was trying to get the cpu to stop the create space move, it wasn’t the on ball that did it it was the defensive awareness put up that did it for me. But I did notice it also helped with scrambles out of double teams and awareness to scramble to open man as well but not actual helping on a drive or PNR.

Think of it this way to. If you are getting mirrored and not beating man as much (not saying you are or aren’t) then help won’t trigger as well…

Edit- or maybe it wasn’t you reporting sticky d? Can’t remember sorry…

[STLRams]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I'm still very annoyed by the AI defensive logic. It still seems like no matter what team or player that every player guards everyone tight all game, even the bad shooters. In years past the cpu players would give space to the bad shooters automatically or players that were much faster than the defenders. I've seen games were Jokic gets switched on to Westbrook and is guarding him tight on the perimeter..smh

[trandoanhung1991]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I actually bought it second hand last year (due to 21 being so bad) never thought it would have to be my go too game of b-ball 2 years in a row.

Are you talking about the "Next gen" 2k16?

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Really happy with how the game is right now. I’m seeing more rotations and help the last couple days. Actually seeing some nice kick out opportunities and pick and pop I wasn’t seeing before and that makes me so much happier. Really hoping they don’t mess things up. You can still see ball side corner help too much but this is the happiest I’ve been with the game since launch. If they could only fix how easy FT shooting is now.

A couple nice rotations and one more pass below. Also, sagging on the ball is good now. They don’t sag off average shooters but Crowder correctly dares Hayes to shoot.

One more pass

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1458404742141517828?s=21

High tag I find for an open shot

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1458401330297462786?s=21

Crowder sagging

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1458396947694374913?s=21

P?S. I’ve never had an issue with on ball sticky D in general. Sliders do work for this area. My beef had been bigger players defending too well but I think it’s OK. Many bigs do a decent job in real life.

[el jimmy]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Are you talking about the "Next gen" 2k16?

PS4.






Ten characters.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I can confirm, the rotations are back. Get by your defender now driving to the hole, another defender rotating over and meeting you at the rim. Also noticing more stumbling when crossing people over. As of right now, the game is playing good.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Just had a fastbreak on a steal. OMG. I was waiting in my head for the defenders to catch up and beat me to the rim like they normally do. To my surprise I was able to coast to the rim and dunk it, cleanly without it being blocked from behind or fouled. OMG.......

[AIRJ23]

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Did they turn fouls back off? I adjusted foul sliders to 100 and I’m fouling the CPU a lot but I’m drawing zero fouls. Zero free throws in 3 quarters.

Why can’t they just leave the game alone. Changing day by day, annoying af.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I'm still drawing fouls. And for those who want to see the fastbreak:

https://twitter.com/OperatorWillie/status/1458426811642261506

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I’m not drawing any fouls. Been like this for several games. Seems when I turn foul sliders up it affects only the CPU.

I guess I’m seeing slightly more help. I’m seeing a ton more doubles except the IQ is totally off. I was playing the Nuggets and my guys would run to the three point line to double anyone with the ball during a close game, including guys with single digit points.

[xCoachDx]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I can confirm, the rotations are back. Get by your defender now driving to the hole, another defender rotating over and meeting you at the rim. Also noticing more stumbling when crossing people over. As of right now, the game is playing good.

Agreed. I saw a lot more help defense from the CPU last night than I did a few days ago. Even saw a couple of rotations against ball screens.

Enjoy it while it lasts……