Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

That’s exactly what I’m trying to eliminate. Will try turning them up again. You have them at 100?

I’ve had it around 80-90, still trying to find that sweet spot though, far from perfect yet


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[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I’ve had it around 80-90, still trying to find that sweet spot though, far from perfect yet


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Too much help at those levels? I was thinking 65-80 but don’t wanna go down another rabbit hole where I can’t stop tweaking lol.

[Barata]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I played a game after the update just to see if there was any improvement on PNR defense. First quarter of the game and I was excited to see that I couldn't pass through the defenders so easily anymore. Much better help defense, game felt harder, I was starting to feel like: ok, finally!!!

Then came the 2nd quarter... And the help defense was gone. Everything looked exactly like pre-patch, I was dunking whenever I felt like. Played the rest of the game, 3rd and 4th quarters were pretty much like 2nd. 1st quarter was an anomaly.

I can't understand this game.

[AIRJ23]

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Ok something is weird here. I turned Help d sliders up to 100 in coaching settings and noticed no difference, if anything driving seemed easier. Then I put it at 0 and I’m still seeing weak help, but I feel like I’m definitely seeing more help at 0 than at 100. Some other player/s mentioned seeing the same thing (reverse sliders for help D) a couple updates ago.

Anyone else noticing this? I can say with certainty 0 vs 100 can’t be working properly in my game.

I may just keep it at the standard 35-50 since if I adjust it I’ll be way too confused as to whether it’s hurting or helping.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I think the patch made it easier for the user to drive. User blocks also seem to have increased a lot.

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Ya I’m driving a lot easier now for sure


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[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Lovely. So now we gotta find new slider schemes to make on ball D stickier again.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Lovely. So now we gotta find new slider schemes to make on ball D stickier again.

That’s at least easy. Body sensitivity, on-ball defence and lateral quickness can all be adjusted and generally work to solve this. If only the help Defense slider worked better.p for our main issues.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

That’s at least easy. Body sensitivity, on-ball defence and lateral quickness can all be adjusted and generally work to solve this. If only the help Defense slider worked better.p for our main issues.

How does the body sensitivity slider work again?

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Can’t believe it. Just weeks ago I was finding ways to make the defense easier (not really, but you know what I mean. I was trying to be better against the CPU’s crazy good on ball D).

Now I’ve turned on ball defense + defensive awareness + defensive consistency + lateral quickness up to 90+ on both sides.

I’m officially running 2K21 defense sliders on 2K22.

It does seem to have helped though. With those sliders at 90+ this game feels closer to how 2K22 felt before the patch. But I’ll know it that placebo as I play more.

With my old standard defense sliders after the patch scoring was stupid easy.

[rudyjuly2]

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How does the body sensitivity slider work again?

That does determine a stickiness factor. If a defender makes contact how much it impedes the offense. If you set it high the defender will bump and stick to you, slowing you down.

Right now it feels “help Defense”, and I use that term loosely, is back to non-existent again. So unless we make it hard to blow by guys it’s dunk city.

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

That does determine a stickiness factor. If a defender makes contact how much it impedes the offense. If you set it high the defender will bump and stick to you, slowing you down.



Right now it feels “help Defense”, and I use that term loosely, is back to non-existent again. So unless we make it hard to blow by guys it’s dunk city.

I don’t understand why they keep changing the help defense……. Why would we ever not have help defense lol obviously game devs aren’t dumb so there’s bound to be some kind of reasoning here


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[el jimmy]

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I mean nothing I said is untrue…….. the best game in the world (u pick) can be exploited if the user decides to make that his goal…….no excuses being made, the game plays great if u choose to play basketball and not play cheese ball……. Furthermore, if it’s this bad (which you’ve said 30 times in here) why are u still playing???? It’s mind boggling how u guys continue to call the game [emoji90] yet won’t turn it off 🤣


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I actually don't play it at all. Only dropped in when I saw the patch notes about pnr defence. Playing 2k16 this year actually.

Still disagree about the "everything can be exploited" point. But whatevs, not worth the trouble of an argument.

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I actually don't play it at all. Only dropped in when I saw the patch notes about pnr defence. Playing 2k16 this year actually.



Still disagree about the "everything can be exploited" point. But whatevs, not worth the trouble of an argument.

Stop the 🧢 u were just posting a couple days ago about how easy the game was and how u had just won a game by 40……… u are a troll at this point bruh 🤷🏻*♂️


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[Baebae32]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I don’t understand why they keep changing the help defense……. Why would we ever not have help defense lol obviously game devs aren’t dumb so there’s bound to be some kind of reasoning here


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My tinfoil hat guess would be that its a defender movement system related issue.