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  • jluce32
    Rookie
    • Aug 2008
    • 28

    #196
    Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

    Originally posted by tcrews
    EnSoul - I'm really glad you were able to look at our posts objectively and take responsibility for your play style. Most are content blaming the sliders, the game, the pope, etc. I say bravo to you for doing that. I'm really glad your last game went much better for you and you were able to hang on for a 6 point win. Now that you have a better feel for these, it makes the games pretty damn intense huh?
    tcrews, I swear man you have to be my brother from a different mother. Not only are all your posts about the sliders spot on, but the fact that you gave this kid props should not go unwarranted.

    How many times do we see people come on to these forums and complain that the OP didn't spoon feed them every little thing about using sliders, etc?

    After I made my post I expected EnSoul to come back at me and say "yo man, I'm the freaking man at this game, and if I'm losing these sliders suck yo!" I commend you ensoul you went back and looked at these sliders objectively and figured it out. Good for you. We need more people like this not just in this forum, but in the world. haha. No bs.

    I have to thank you as well for going back to the drawing board and being mature and trying them again. It is nice to see this type of behavior on an internet forum for a change.

    Great sliders, great thread, etc etc etc.

    Ok, enough with the lovefest...

    Now let's all go petition 2ksports to give rspencer a lucrative exec job. Chief Operating Officer of Basketball Sliders. Nice title.
    Last edited by jluce32; 07-17-2010, 05:24 PM.

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    • Jaydabeast
      Rookie
      • Jul 2004
      • 135

      #197
      Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

      Originally posted by rspencer86
      I have it on because I can evaluate whether or not a trade is fair. Plus it allows me to have some flexibility on moving guys around to teams as I see fit. I don't make unfair trades because building a ridiculous team of superstars and going 78-4 isn't my idea of fun.

      If you read the O.P. I talk about how I play my franchises. I create my own story lines and do all player movement for myself. For example, I had Joe Johnson join LeBron, who stayed in Cleveland. Actually, a lot of the moves I made in my offseason actually came to fruition in real life. I put Bosh in Miami, Amare in NY and Boozer in Chicago all before the real FA period. Pretty freaky, eh?

      If you don't want to play like that, then just turn trade override off.
      With trade override on, it didn't ask me about the 10+ trades the CPU made when I allowed CPU trading for a wk. Not many "bad" trades per se but there were quite a few that just didn't make any sense. What else do I need to set if I want to see the trades asked before they happen? Thanks.

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      • Positive Chance
        Banned
        • Jul 2010
        • 438

        #198
        Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

        Originally posted by jluce32
        tcrews, I swear man you have to be my brother from a different mother. Not only are all your posts about the sliders spot on, but the fact that you gave this kid props should not go unwarranted.

        How many times do we see people come on to these forums and complain that the OP didn't spoon feed them every little thing about using sliders, etc?

        After I made my post I expected EnSoul to come back at me and say "yo man, I'm the freaking man at this game, and if I'm losing these sliders suck yo!" I commend you ensoul you went back and looked at these sliders objectively and figured it out. Good for you. We need more people like this not just in this forum, but in the world. haha. No bs.

        I have to thank you as well for going back to the drawing board and being mature and trying them again. It is nice to see this type of behavior on an internet forum for a change.

        Great sliders, great thread, etc etc etc.

        Ok, enough with the lovefest...

        Now let's all go petition 2ksports to give rspencer a lucrative exec job. Chief Operating Officer of Basketball Sliders. Nice title.
        Sounds like you have'nt been on this forum alot .

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        • z4ckdabeast
          Rookie
          • Jan 2010
          • 428

          #199
          Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

          Originally posted by Jaydabeast
          With trade override on, it didn't ask me about the 10+ trades the CPU made when I allowed CPU trading for a wk. Not many "bad" trades per se but there were quite a few that just didn't make any sense. What else do I need to set if I want to see the trades asked before they happen? Thanks.
          Trade Override only works when you're offering trades to the CPU.

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          • tcrews
            Rookie
            • Oct 2009
            • 360

            #200
            Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

            jluce32 - Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated sir. I just believe in giving people their due, and credit for anything that they've done well. I don't care if it makes me look uncool on a message board for being polite, respectful, or complimentary. I'm also glad someone else realized what I was getting at. There's a good chunk of people on the 2k boards that are pretty open minded and accept that they could possibly be doing something wrong. But you're absolutely correct, for the most part, everyone tweaks out if you dare mention they may not quite be God at the game. Certainly it would seem if you're not my Brother from another Mother, it's entirely possible you're my neighbor from a different labor. Haha.

            J_J2000 - Haha, come on now. You know if you've ever wound up on the madden board or a few others on this site, people do NOT take kindly to you telling them they are not the #1 player in the galaxy, of all time. Given, there are always a decent number that can take constructive criticism. But ultimately, I'd say a lot of people would have taken my post and jluce's posts as personal attacks and flipped out. Offering constructive criticism on a video game board to a complete stranger, even if you're sincerely trying to help. Has about a 50% chance of a nasty response by someone taking your tips and hints personally and lashing out at you.

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            • Benniator
              Rookie
              • Jan 2006
              • 160

              #201
              Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

              19 games into my Knicks season, I am 17-2 with a 74 OVR rated team. For reference, the lowest rated team in my Association are the Arenas-less Wizards at a 72 OVR (who have won 4 games). Granted, many of the games have been competitive, but there's no reason my record should be any higher than the .500 mark, nor should I be shooting 58% from the field and 46% from three AS A TEAM.

              These sliders have been better than any others I have tried as far as giving me a more entertaining and tougher game; I'm no longer blowing teams out by 40 points or holding them to .250 shooting. However, I've accepted that 2K10 cannot give me a near-realistic statistical AND gameplay experience ...at least not without some major slider tweaking on my part (to which I will not devote any more time). 2K10 is done for me, but I'll be watching these boards for your 2K11 sliders, rspencer86.

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              • rspencer86
                MIB Crew
                • Sep 2004
                • 8807

                #202
                Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                Originally posted by Benniator
                19 games into my Knicks season, I am 17-2 with a 74 OVR rated team. For reference, the lowest rated team in my Association are the Arenas-less Wizards at a 72 OVR (who have won 4 games). Granted, many of the games have been competitive, but there's no reason my record should be any higher than the .500 mark, nor should I be shooting 58% from the field and 46% from three AS A TEAM.

                These sliders have been better than any others I have tried as far as giving me a more entertaining and tougher game; I'm no longer blowing teams out by 40 points or holding them to .250 shooting. However, I've accepted that 2K10 cannot give me a near-realistic statistical AND gameplay experience ...at least not without some major slider tweaking on my part (to which I will not devote any more time). 2K10 is done for me, but I'll be watching these boards for your 2K11 sliders, rspencer86.
                Why don't you keep lowering the shooting sliders until you are shooting a realistic percentage? FG%'s should be the easiest problem to fix.
                Ryan Spencer

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                • tcrews
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 360

                  #203
                  Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                  Benniator - I completely understand where you're at. I've seen your posts and understand your frustration. You're absolutely not alone in that regard. As I got more used to these sliders, the games were still competitive, but I was shooting too high of a FG%. I'd often say to myself after a game, had I shot a normal/realistic percentage, would I have won? More often than not I'm led to believe that I absolutely would've lost.

                  What RSpencer is saying is very true. FG% is very easy to fix. I know you don't feel like going through a huge process tweaking the sliders all over again, which is something I've grown absurdly sick of. But the FG% is an easy fix. All I did was lower my inside shots down 2, close shots down 2, medium shots stayed, and 3 pointers went down by 1. I then started a new association and am currently 7-4 with an 84 overall rated team. What I did to figure out if they were going to work or not was make some adjustments, and then change the Quarter length to 2-3 minutes, so it'd be long enough to get a feel for them, but short enough so that I didn't feel like I was wasting an obscene amount of time for the purpose of getting sliders right. They translated quite well back into 9 minute quarters (my preference).

                  I really hope you're able to make some adjustments to the shot sliders and continue enjoying the competitive sliders and hopefully start losing more often. I would say, and this is the only time I'd say it at this point. That changing a few shooting sliders is absolutely worth it to get the game right where you want it, finally. Worst case scenario you have to lower them over the course of 3 or 4 games. And when you finally lose, or at least shoot around 45%. You'll know you're good to go.

                  Hope this helps bro.

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                  • jluce32
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 28

                    #204
                    Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                    Originally posted by Jonathan_Joseph2000
                    Sounds like you have'nt been on this forum alot .
                    Actually, yes I have been on these forums a lot. I don't post much, but I read a lot. But you're one liner is much appreciated.

                    Originally posted by tcrews
                    Benniator - I completely understand where you're at. I've seen your posts and understand your frustration. You're absolutely not alone in that regard. As I got more used to these sliders, the games were still competitive, but I was shooting too high of a FG%. I'd often say to myself after a game, had I shot a normal/realistic percentage, would I have won? More often than not I'm led to believe that I absolutely would've lost.

                    What RSpencer is saying is very true. FG% is very easy to fix. I know you don't feel like going through a huge process tweaking the sliders all over again, which is something I've grown absurdly sick of. But the FG% is an easy fix. All I did was lower my inside shots down 2, close shots down 2, medium shots stayed, and 3 pointers went down by 1. I then started a new association and am currently 7-4 with an 84 overall rated team. What I did to figure out if they were going to work or not was make some adjustments, and then change the Quarter length to 2-3 minutes, so it'd be long enough to get a feel for them, but short enough so that I didn't feel like I was wasting an obscene amount of time for the purpose of getting sliders right. They translated quite well back into 9 minute quarters (my preference).

                    I really hope you're able to make some adjustments to the shot sliders and continue enjoying the competitive sliders and hopefully start losing more often. I would say, and this is the only time I'd say it at this point. That changing a few shooting sliders is absolutely worth it to get the game right where you want it, finally. Worst case scenario you have to lower them over the course of 3 or 4 games. And when you finally lose, or at least shoot around 45%. You'll know you're good to go.

                    Hope this helps bro.
                    I agree with tcrews and rspencer here. You can make minor tweaks on the shooting sliders and see pretty major differences. If you only turn some of the shooting sliders down just a bit, it will make a difference. I can see your frustration tho, and understand where you are coming from with getting tired of making tweaks. GL man.

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                    • Cyne
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1

                      #205
                      Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                      Hey guys,

                      First of all, even though this is my first post here, im following this thread and the whole site for quite some time, because im also having a hard time finding the perfect set of rosters for my style of play.

                      Dont get me wrong, these sliders are pretty good, but im experiencing some things that keep frustrating me.
                      One of the things is the already above mentioned high user fg %.
                      Its true, you can just simply lower the shot success, but i dont know how to discribe it, but to me it feels like im cheating myself. Let me explain what i mean by this.
                      When im playing, im always trying to find the open man and get some good looks and i dont wanna "punish" myself for hitting those more time than not by lowering the fg%, because to me it doesnt feel right
                      Making it more difficult to find open spotsother than just making it more difficult to hit open jumper would be the key for me. And thats where i struggle. I cant seem to find the right settings to get that done.

                      So guys, im very thankful for any help, advise, critisism or whatever you can provide that helps me getting to my goal.

                      Sorry for the long post, but sometimes its difficult for me to explain this kind of stuff, since this ( as you will know by now ) isnt my native language

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                      • Benniator
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 160

                        #206
                        Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                        I have lowered the shooting sliders already. Inside scoring is at 38, mid is at 47, 3 pt is at 48. I've had sliders there since game 10. It's not that wide open shots are falling with alarming frequency, it's just that I get way too many open threes and way too many uncontested drives to the hoop. The high three point percentage is directly related to defenders coming off their man to stop a drive. I rarely use picks or crossovers; defenders just can't stay in front of me, and I'm not the world's best 2K player by any stretch. This isn't a slider problem as much as it's a programming problem. On-ball defenders don't react to first steps and off-the-ball defenders settle into that auto-crouch whenever a ball handler drives past them, thereby leaving wing players open for easy shots. Raising on-ball defense turns offensive sets into pushing matches on the perimeter, with isn't realistic either. Anything else I could try, besides waiting for the new game and hope for the best?

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                        • gabymilito
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 12

                          #207
                          Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                          Hello everyone. One question: will this sliders work well in the PC version? I'm getting really frustrated with this game. Every time I get a steal and start running the field... I can't buy a lay up!!!! They are always back on D with superspeed!!!! And what about open jumpers. There aren't any. Of course the AI always gets a lot of those. I've just played vs Cleveland (12 quarter) and Mo Williams went 8/11 from 3 point line, finished with 48 points. LeBron had 10 (?), all from mid range, no penetration at all. And forget about any kind of post play, the AI keeps hitting jumpers all the time and that's it. And when I tried to play with Bogut down the post, it's almost impossible to get a fg.
                          Before I throw this game to the trashcan, I'll try your sliders. Fingers crossed...

                          PD: are this sliders for simulating games in Association Mode too? Do they keep it real in those cases?
                          Last edited by gabymilito; 07-20-2010, 09:17 AM.

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                          • jluce32
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 28

                            #208
                            Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                            Originally posted by Cyne
                            Hey guys,

                            First of all, even though this is my first post here, im following this thread and the whole site for quite some time, because im also having a hard time finding the perfect set of rosters for my style of play.

                            Dont get me wrong, these sliders are pretty good, but im experiencing some things that keep frustrating me.
                            One of the things is the already above mentioned high user fg %.
                            Its true, you can just simply lower the shot success, but i dont know how to discribe it, but to me it feels like im cheating myself. Let me explain what i mean by this.
                            When im playing, im always trying to find the open man and get some good looks and i dont wanna "punish" myself for hitting those more time than not by lowering the fg%, because to me it doesnt feel right
                            Making it more difficult to find open spotsother than just making it more difficult to hit open jumper would be the key for me. And thats where i struggle. I cant seem to find the right settings to get that done.

                            So guys, im very thankful for any help, advise, critisism or whatever you can provide that helps me getting to my goal.

                            Sorry for the long post, but sometimes its difficult for me to explain this kind of stuff, since this ( as you will know by now ) isnt my native language
                            I would start by tinkering with CPU denfensive awareness or turn up the game difficulty from Pro to the higher levels and see what happens.

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                            • lord meth
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 161

                              #209
                              Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                              Originally posted by Benniator
                              19 games into my Knicks season, I am 17-2 with a 74 OVR rated team. For reference, the lowest rated team in my Association are the Arenas-less Wizards at a 72 OVR (who have won 4 games). Granted, many of the games have been competitive, but there's no reason my record should be any higher than the .500 mark, nor should I be shooting 58% from the field and 46% from three AS A TEAM.

                              These sliders have been better than any others I have tried as far as giving me a more entertaining and tougher game; I'm no longer blowing teams out by 40 points or holding them to .250 shooting. However, I've accepted that 2K10 cannot give me a near-realistic statistical AND gameplay experience ...at least not without some major slider tweaking on my part (to which I will not devote any more time). 2K10 is done for me, but I'll be watching these boards for your 2K11 sliders, rspencer86.
                              I too find myself struggling on a particular shooting slider set. Its like the CPU always hovers arounds 50% FG and 40% 3PT. Ive settled on everything else except the shooting sliders lol Ive noticed Off/Def awareness sliders take part in this as well, but idk exactly how to describe it tho
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                              • tcnumba10
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1816

                                #210
                                Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                                Wow gotta admit, I'm really impress by the results of these slider sets and that video you've produced. I'm seeing new animations that I haven't seen before and I play the game religiously since it first came out for the PC. The only thing that I'm having trouble is that the cpu star player is not as dominant as I expected them to be, I was playing against the Cavs, and Lebron only ended up with 17pts during 11min quarters... Maybe it was only a single game production but is there any tips to increase the domination the cpu star player?

                                Thanks!
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