Official NBA Offseason/Player Movement Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Damn. Yes that would be.

[Stumbleweed]

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Do they bring him off the bench 6th man style then? It's him or Perkins coming off the bench... I don't think you really want Sheed and KG out there both shooting 15 foot turnarounds all that often... Perkins is a huge part of their defense, as he showed against Dwight.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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Do they bring him off the bench 6th man style then? It's him or Perkins coming off the bench... I don't think you really want Sheed and KG out there both shooting 15 foot turnarounds all that often... Perkins is a huge part of their defense, as he showed against Dwight.

That's really tough to say. Either way, our frontcourt would be absurd. The thing is, in our offense there's always a play where Perk is wide open at the 3-pt line, but obviously he isn't gonna shoot. If Sheed is in the game, that's money. And if the shot isn't there, well we obviously have other options.

[Jonesy]

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holy crap with Wince in Orl, Shaq and possibly CV in Clev and Sheed in Bos the EC conference raise is going to be insane! So many good teams have gotten even better this offseason it almost strange.

I guess teams that are a lock for a losing year are trying to save money so they are willing to part with more talent than usual to already dominant teams.

[HMcCoy]

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Charlie wants to be a Cavalier and everything I've heard from beat writers, people within the organization and writers from around the NBA is that the Cavaliers are interested.

I want this done. I DESPERATELY want Charlie Villanueva, I honestly cannot see a better fit.

Co-sign. We don't always agree on things, but I am in complete agree with you here, bro. Charlie V's weaknesses are similar to Mo's issues when he came in...mostly based on the perception of questionable focus and motivation, IMO. I think he'll play closer to his potential on a championship team, and he's established himself as a step it up type in Brons mind after the McD's game. Good athleticism, good post game when he feels like it, decent midrange.

Hickson, Andy, and D-Block will be the defensive bigs, with Charlie, Shaq, and Z as the offensive guys. Lot of combos for Brown to mess around with...Love this move. All we need now is a defensive 2 guard with some size in case Kinsey still isn't ready for a bigger role. Don't think we can afford Parker, but there are still deals to be made out there.

[Vince]

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Why Milwaukee isn't committed to CV is beyond me...He's improved immensely since he's been with the Raptors. And it isn't like that team can't use a bit more youth.

They should've tried getting rid of that albatross Michael Redd the year after he signed that brutal deal.

[HMcCoy]

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Why Milwaukee isn't committed to CV is beyond me...He's improved immensely since he's been with the Raptors. And it isn't like that team can't use a bit more youth.

They should've tried getting rid of that albatross Michael Redd the year after he signed that brutal deal.

Charlie doesn't strike me as a Skiles kind of guy.

[OSUFan_88]

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Why Milwaukee isn't committed to CV is beyond me

Money, Senator Herb spent a ton of money last year to make the playoffs and it blew up in their face. Now they need to shed money and it was between Sessions and Villa.

I don't get it, especially since they drafted Jennings, but I would guess it's because he would get about 4 mill in a QO.

[Vince]

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Ramon Sessions is nice, but he'll never be a true star or game changer at the PG spot...

[Vince]

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Charlie doesn't strike me as a Skiles kind of guy.

I hope for their sake they don't plan on going with a Power Forward rotation of Danny Gadz, Mbah-Moute and Joe Alexander.

[OSUFan_88]

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I hope for their sake they don't plan on going with a Power Forward rotation of Danny Gadz, Mbah-Moute and Joe Alexander.

They traded for Amir Johnson and they have Ilyosova more than likely coming back from a successful stint in Europe.

[Checmate101]

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From Ric Bucher

11. Jason Kidd, PG, Mavericks (UFA)

His game: Vast change from Kidd of yesteryear. Now he's a respectable spot-up shooter and defender who plays angles and shepherds his man into help. Still has uncanny ability to find an open man with the game on the line, milk a hot hand or recognize a mismatch. Good post-up threat but no longer finishes in traffic. Pass-ahead, fast-break starter off rebounds.
Right system: A balanced offense that he can initiate, but which features a threat who requires double teams. Still good in a team-defense concept, so needs smart teammates and an organized coach. Athletic wings are a must to exploit his outlet passes and protect him on defense. Lots of off-the-ball, pass-and-cut movement allows him to utilize his passing, vision and timing.
Wrong System: A rip-and-run offensive style with no title-contending hopes or aspirations or players capable of moving without the ball.
Best Fits: Mavericks, Lakers, Cavaliers, Rockets, Magic, Hawks, Celtics

12. Ron Artest, SF, Rockets (UFA)
His game: A matchup nightmare because of his 3-point shooting, handle and physical ability to take contact and still score. Enlivened by defensive challenges, his strength, tenacity and deceptive agility -- even if it has diminished -- make him a rather aggravating cover guy.
Right system: Half-court game with a calm, communicating coach adept at exploiting offensive mismatches. A team with a solid decision-making star who has enough game to command Artest's trust and respect.
Wrong System: My-way-or-highway coach without a star bigger than Artest, one that demands its small forward make plays or one that has no chance at the playoffs.
Best Fits: Lakers, Rockets, Celtics, Cavaliers

13. Mike Bibby, PG, Hawks (UFA)
His game: One of the best 3-point shooting PGs in league. Still effective on pick-and-rolls but more of a set-up-the-offense, flare-to-the-corner type now. A defensive liability but better in a strong team concept. Is not a playmaker but doesn't try to be one; moves the ball on the perimeter, happy to feed and play off a bona fide star.
Right system: Thrives with passing big men, a slower pace, a player's coach and at least one screen-setting big man. Long, athletic, hardnosed wings are recommended so he can hide on defense.
Wrong system: Anywhere that requires him to create shots or provide dribble penetration. A team that lacks a shotblocker or at least one defensive-oriented wing.
Best Fits: Hawks, Blazers, Rockets, Grizzlies, Wizards, Hornets

14. Shawn Marion, SF/PF, Raptors (UFA)
His game: Even though age has somewhat diminished his legendary pogo-stick legs, the faster the game, the better he is. Unheralded defender, both helping and on the ball. Moves well off the ball and has array of flip shots from 10 feet and in. Can make 3s but at this point is most effective when he keeps those to a minimum.
Right system: Up-tempo with a first-rate passing point guard. Moves well enough that he can play with or without a dominant post player.
Wrong system: Lots of chuckers, because Marion's energy suffers without touches and when his defensive responsibilities are overly isolated.
Best Fits: Knicks, Hornets, Bulls, 76ers, Suns, Raptors

15. Paul Millsap, PF, Jazz (RFA)
His game: Space-eater around the rim. Tenacious rebounder, especially good at cleaning up the offensive boards. Can score in the post but limited as a passer. Face-up game is almost acceptable. No jumper beyond 15 feet. Not a shotblocker but very good at keeping bigger, more talented players off the block or away from their spots.
Right system: Needs shooters around him and a playmaking, penetrating point guard. Works best in a structured system in which he has a well-defined, contributing role.
Wrong System: An up-tempo, free-flowing offense or a defense without a shotblocker or solid perimeter defenders. Has neither shotblocking chops nor agility to help on dribble drives. Would get lost next to a post-dominating big man.
Best Fits: Jazz, Blazers, Suns, Celtics, Pistons, Nuggets

16. Drew Gooden, PF, Spurs (UFA)
His game: Designated post-up scorer. Is not going to block shots or find cutters but is an above-average rebounder and can create shots for himself on the block, a precious commodity.
Right system: A simple but disciplined one, where his marching orders are clear. Look for him to provide points when the offense bogs down and jumpers are not falling, and he won't disappoint.
Wrong System: A read-and-react format where he has to provide a defensive post presence or make plays.
Best Fits: Spurs, Bulls, Heat, Blazers

17. Allen Iverson, PG/SG, Pistons (UFA)
His game: Improvisational scorer, still capable of breaking down almost any defender off the dribble. Age, plus wear-and-tear, has him relying more on his midrange jumper than getting to the rim. Needs a strong-but-thoughtful coach to keep him focused and committed.
Right system: A team that has a need for an electric scorer off the bench, featuring a loose, offensive-oriented attack and a locker room/coach strong enough to keep him happy with that role. Preferably without a post scorer to clog up the lane.
Wrong System: Highly structured scheme that doesn't have at least two excellent perimeter defenders to hide Iverson's steal-or-else defensive approach. A coach without a pedigree would not be good, either.
Best Fits: Magic, Warriors, Wizards, Celtics, Suns

18. David Lee, PF/C, Knicks (RFA)
His game: Energy and defense without needing plays called for him. Will sacrifice his body on screens and charges. Undersized but athletic, hardnosed and low maintenance. Rebound and loose-ball fiend. Good hands and decent with putbacks and finishing around the rim off pick-and-roll. Not much of a threat beyond 15 feet or on post-ups. Willing help defender, but not a shotblocker.
Right system: Up-tempo is ideal because he'll outrun most bigs in transition. Need at least three scorers, ideally four, so he has room and reason to chase down rebounds and putbacks. Can't play off an offensive post threat because he doesn't have the jumper to space the floor. Mobile enough to show on the guard in pick-and-roll defense and get back to a rolling big.
Wrong System: A methodical half-court set with a dominant scoring center who is not a shotblocker.
Best Fits: Suns, Blazers, Jazz, Rockets, Thunder, Warriors

19. Linas Kleiza, SF, Nuggets (RFA)
His game: Streaky spot-up shooter from 3-point range. No real in-between game. Unafraid to go strong to the rim and has the muscle to take contact and finish. Good lane-filler on the break. Willing on-the-ball defender who fights over screens and uses his size well to crowd opponents. Not much of a help defender.
Right system: Needs a playmaking point guard or double-team drawing star because he doesn't create his own shot. Better in a team-oriented, lock-em-up, defensive system with a bona fide shotblocker so he can crowd opponents and use his strength without fear of getting beat off the dribble. Also better in a structured offense because he moves without the ball well and understands spacing.
Wrong System: An up-and-down style with lots of one-on-one play because he'll get lost in the shuffle, which is what happened in Denver last season.
Best fits: Cavs, Lakers, Hornets, Spurs, Magic

20. Channing Frye SF/PF Blazers (RFA)
His game: Solid jump shooter with 3-point range. Unafraid to take and make crunch-time shots, even when playing limited minutes. High basketball IQ. Not a physical player but can post up players his size or smaller. Limited defensively by his size and strength but makes an effort.
Right system: A drive-and-kick offense willing and able to move the ball around the perimeter and disciplined defense with willing and able help defenders. Not a shotblocker, so he needs to be protected -- not the protector -- around the rim.
Wrong System: Up-tempo, fast break style. Just not quick or explosive enough to make that work as an undersized power forward. Not going to flourish with a shoot-first point guard, either.
Best fits: Pistons, Heat, Magic

[2k8capRookieguy13]

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nice report and scouting

[Brankles]

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Brankles, you guys will love Ryan Anderson down there. Has a nice 3pt and mid range game but just doesn't have that same driving ability that Hedo had. But once he develops that then he'll be a real good player for you guys.

I've seen him a little bit in college and maybe 15-20 minutes in the NBA, but it's always great to hear from the fans that watch every game that he's a contributor and will help out in multiple ways. I was actually really excited we got him in the trade.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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They traded for Amir Johnson and they have Ilyosova more than likely coming back from a successful stint in Europe.

Yeah and Joe Alexander is definitely not a PF. Currently on the roster (this could change with buyouts and everything), the Bucks have Malik Allen, Amir Johnson, Mbah A Moute, and Kurt Thomas for PFs. SF is a bigger hole for Milwaukee really. They just have Alexander and Bowen, and maybe Keith Bogans if you play him at SF, same with Mbah a Moute.