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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #106
    Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by georgiafan
    This is what you get for treating the regular season like it doesn't matter. They are a brand new team with high Maintence players you cant just flip a switch come playoff time.

    If they are still doing the load management thing next year I will expect the same result. The West will be even tougher next year with Golden State back in the playoffs in the place of OKC. Then you have other young teams like Suns, Pelicans, Wolves that will be legit threats to make the playoffs.

    Sometime is going to overpay Harrell so if they bring him back its not going to be cheap.
    I would let Harrell go. I get they're cap-strapped but if it's gonna be a chemistry-issue, they should try to sign and trade or replace him with someone that provides, defense, rebounding, or playmaking. Yeah he can get you 20 PPG but they have enough guys on their roster that can do that already.

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47614

      #107
      Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      The clippers can’t trade a 1st round pick until 2028
      Technically they could trade 2027, after the 2026 draft assuming they dont deal the 2028 pick before then. But funny thinking, someone who's in middle school at the time of the trade will be one of the players going back for PG.

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      • georgiafan
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        • Jul 2002
        • 11104

        #108
        Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

        I wouldn't pay him 15 million + per year for 3 years either. So if your able to do a sign and trade and get a asset back I would do that. I don't think anyone is going to think he is a starting C. So I could see one of the bad teams with cap space like Hornets or Knicks signing hm. I wouldn't think anyone is going to do a Brogdon type deal where they pay him and give something back.


        Originally posted by cima
        I would let Harrell go. I get they're cap-strapped but if it's gonna be a chemistry-issue, they should try to sign and trade or replace him with someone that provides, defense, rebounding, or playmaking. Yeah he can get you 20 PPG but they have enough guys on their roster that can do that already.


        That's wild to think about so they need to find a way to get a 1st round pick somehow so they can trade a pick while we are all still alive.

        Originally posted by Majingir
        Technically they could trade 2027, after the 2026 draft assuming they dont deal the 2028 pick before then. But funny thinking, someone who's in middle school at the time of the trade will be one of the players going back for PG.
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        • Majingir
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          • Apr 2005
          • 47614

          #109
          Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by georgiafan
          I wouldn't pay him 15 million + per year for 3 years either. So if your able to do a sign and trade and get a asset back I would do that. I don't think anyone is going to think he is a starting C. So I could see one of the bad teams with cap space like Hornets or Knicks signing hm. I wouldn't think anyone is going to do a Brogdon type deal where they pay him and give something back.













          That's wild to think about so they need to find a way to get a 1st round pick somehow so they can trade a pick while we are all still alive.
          Which is why I laughed at the PG deal. If Clippers don't win next year, PG and Kawhi can walk, and then from 2020-2026 drafts you will have a total of 3 first round picks, all of which will be the lesser of the 21 Knicks/Clippers (only if Clippers dont finish in the bottom 4), 23 OKC/Clippers and 25 OKC/Clippers.

          So in other words, Clippers guaranteed to not get a 1st overall pick in 6 of the next 7 drafts, and unless you think they're doing bad enough next year, they won't get any 1st overall pick until at least 2027, and then if 2021 Knicks or 2023/2025 OKC don't finish bottom 3 either, Clippers won't have a top 3 pick until at least 2027.

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          • King_B_Mack
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            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #110
            Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

            Breaking now from Woj

            Billy Donovan agrees to deal to become the next head coach of the Chicago Bulls.


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            • cima
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 13478

              #111
              Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

              How you feel about it?

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #112
                Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                Breaking now from Woj

                Billy Donovan agrees to deal to become the next head coach of the Chicago Bulls.


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                You don't drop news like that on your team. And then don't say **** about it. Come on King. You better than that.
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                • King_B_Mack
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #113
                  Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                  Lol

                  I know, I know. I’m in class, so thoughts coming later


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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #114
                    Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                    Jeebs acting like my man doesn’t have a life or something because he didn’t comment on it lol
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                    • TheShizNo1
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 26341

                      #115
                      Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Jeebs acting like my man doesn’t have a life or something because he didn’t comment on it lol
                      Priorities, bruh. King knew we was all [emoji102] when we got that alert.

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                      • King_B_Mack
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #116
                        Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                        So I’m of two minds about this one. On the one hand I’m a little meh, just because Billy Donovan doesn’t really check the box of a great coach. He’s okay, good even. But he’s not great. I can’t think of any one thing he does that’s good/great to make him stand out. I know he led the ship that blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors in KD’s final season and he didn’t fix the Scotty Brooks “tell KD or Russ to dribble the air out of the ball for 22 seconds then shoot” offense down the stretch when he had them.

                        On the other hand tho I’m excited that the Bulls are hiring like the second coach in franchise history with previous coaching experience, certainly the second of the Reinsdorf era of the team. Which is sad by itself. I’m excited because he probably didn’t come cheap and the front office signing off on the hire while already paying 2 coaches seems to signify that they’re serious about giving Karnišovas the autonomy to do his job and finally seem serious about competing for real. He’s done pretty well with young players which is the main reason he’s here. We have a roster full of young talent that he’s being entrusted to develop and I’m honestly eager to see how he does.

                        So I’m kinda excited for the hire, I’m cautiously optimistic of the direction of the team currently.


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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #117
                          Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          So I’m of two minds about this one. On the one hand I’m a little meh, just because Billy Donovan doesn’t really check the box of a great coach. He’s okay, good even. But he’s not great. I can’t think of any one thing he does that’s good/great to make him stand out. I know he led the ship that blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors in KD’s final season and he didn’t fix the Scotty Brooks “tell KD or Russ to dribble the air out of the ball for 22 seconds then shoot” offense down the stretch when he had them.

                          On the other hand tho I’m excited that the Bulls are hiring like the second coach in franchise history with previous coaching experience, certainly the second of the Reinsdorf era of the team. Which is sad by itself. I’m excited because he probably didn’t come cheap and the front office signing off on the hire while already paying 2 coaches seems to signify that they’re serious about giving Karnišovas the autonomy to do his job and finally seem serious about competing for real. He’s done pretty well with young players which is the main reason he’s here. We have a roster full of young talent that he’s being entrusted to develop and I’m honestly eager to see how he does.

                          So I’m kinda excited for the hire, I’m cautiously optimistic of the direction of the team currently.


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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #118
                            Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                            I find it somewhat odd that he and OKC decided to go different directions, many assumed because he didn’t want to be part of a rebuild, yet now he’s going to a team in the middle of (or ready to start a new) rebuild.

                            Anyways I think he does well with young players so I’m intrigued on how this will play out. Bulls have an interesting off-season ahead of them. They have lots of valuable trade pieces if they wanted to go that route because Lauri and Carter would be big commodities around the league. White they are obviously keeping with how he played at the end of the year. All they need to do is move LaVine and let Otto walk after this to open up multiple max slots to pair with their young talent. They could keep LaVine and still go after one, though I do strongly feel that he and White are redundant and it makes sense to keep the younger/cheaper option.. especially since White functions a tad better as a lead guard/combo guard and LaVine is more of a scorer who never really meshed with Lauri when he should have been developing into a big time 1-2 punch.

                            Lots of questions with them. I’m not even sure what type of player they look to draft here. It seems like whatever pick they make is going to be a reserve because they are pretty much set. Could always move Porter but there isn’t really star potential small forwards in the draft. Could move LaVine and play White at the 2, try to draft Ball, Hayes, Halliburton, or Anthony to pair next to him in the backcourt. I could see them going that direction if Ball is off the board, maybe trading back a few spots even and get one of those guys plus pieces/future picks.

                            I just know I’d hate to been their front office. There is no clear direction here and I’m sure their phones are going to be blowing up this off-season exploring all types of possibilities.


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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #119
                              Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                              Was that why he left or was it the money part for OKC and Donovan?
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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #120
                                Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                Was that why he left or was it the money part for OKC and Donovan?

                                I have no idea. That was just the media “assumption” around him leaving. I don’t believe a real reason was ever given, just stated that it was basically mutual. Something maybe have came out since then though, idk.


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