2023 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Can they get a disabled player exception for Ball?

They should be able to, but AK said it wasn't on the table to use it when he spoke draft night. I don't know why the hell not.

How do teams get a Disabled Player Exception (DPE)?

Teams have to petition the NBA in order to be granted a DPE. It’s not an automatic thing when a player is injured. A team must apply to the NBA for a DPE.

From there, it’s up to either an NBA-designated doctor or the league’s Fitness to Play panel to determine the extent of the injury to the player the DPE is being asked for. If the determination is made that the injured player is substantially more likely than not to miss the rest of the season, the DPE is granted to the team that petitioned for it.

Teams have until January 15 of each season to apply for a DPE. If a player is ruled out for the season after that, teams cannot petition for a DPE. If a player is deemed to be out for the subsequent season, the team will need to reapply during that next league year for a new DPE.

The NBA needs to redo the exception or something because even if the Bulls apply for it and get it, it'd only get them about $10 mil because it's only for half the injured player's salary that season with a max value equal to the non-tax payer midlevel for that season that still counts against the cap and the luxury tax. So if you're hard capped at the tax apron, you can't exceed the apron using the exception. You also can only sign the player you acquire with the DPE to a remainder of season contract. So if the Bulls signed a dude after getting the exception, he's gone at the end of the year even though Ball may not be back still the following the season.

Also sucks that Ball has a $20 million player option for next year that he'd be an idiot to turn down. So maybe AK is waiting for that?

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

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[jeebs9]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Taurean Prince and Cam Reddish did not receive qualifying offers, so they're Free Agents.

Prince drop off has been a combo of not getting playing time and Wolves being stacked.

Cam no need to put anything for him. He'll probably get picked up by the Lakers or Spurs or Orlando lol. That's just a guess [emoji23]

[illwill10]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

I think we're still waiting on a couple team options.
"-Reggie Bullock - DAL - fully guaranteed at $10.5M
-Eric Gordon - LAC - fully guaranteed at $20.9M
-Kelly Olynyk - UTA - fully guaranteed at $12.2M"

[illwill10]

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Prince drop off has been a combo of not getting playing time and Wolves being stacked.

Cam no need to put anything for him. He'll probably get picked up by the Lakers or Spurs or Orlando lol. That's just a guess [emoji23]

I would definitely take a flier on Prince for the Sixers. They need wing depth in the worst depth.

Although on low volume, his 3pt % is higher than Ingram expected. In his 2nd-4th season, he averaged close to 30 mins. He averaged 13.2 ppg-4.7rpg-37.1% 3pt(6 at). I would take that coming off the bench.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

I would definitely take a flier on Prince for the Sixers. They need wing depth in the worst depth.



Although on low volume, his 3pt % is higher than Ingram expected. In his 2nd-4th season, he averaged close to 30 mins. He averaged 13.2 ppg-4.7rpg-37.1% 3pt(6 at). I would take that coming off the bench.

He was great for the Nets. Definitely worth the money

[ojandpizza]

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Those 2nd apron teams are going to have it rough.. Phoenix better hope this group is good enough to win a ring, because that roster likely isn’t getting any better after this year.

[illwill10]

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Those 2nd apron teams are going to have it rough.. Phoenix better hope this group is good enough to win a ring, because that roster likely isn’t getting any better after this year.

Literally banking on vet minimum guys to contribute. I saw somewhere that guys like Jabari Parker might get a workout for a vet minimum lol

I know the Sixers are very close to the 2nd apron. They can't resign all their non-Harden players without getting into the 2nd apron. Their best bet to avoid the 2nd apron is hoping that Harden takes the Opt-in or trade Tobias and take a lot less back in salary

[illwill10]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Clippers waived Eric Gordon's contract. It made sense. No need to pay him $20M this season and it saves $110M on the tax bill.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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He was great for the Nets. Definitely worth the money

Ehhh don’t know about the “great” part, Jeebs.

He was serviceable for where we were as a team/franchise at the time.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Ehhh don’t know about the “great” part, Jeebs.

He was serviceable for where we were as a team/franchise at the time.

Ahhhh if I change it to "good" is that better

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Those 2nd apron teams are going to have it rough.. Phoenix better hope this group is good enough to win a ring, because that roster likely isn’t getting any better after this year.

The more “straightforward” articles I read about this CBA, man it looks like the Owners went full “Shaq punking Chris Dudley” on the players.

[ojandpizza]

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Supposedly Lakers are targeting Bruce Brown, would almost have to be with the NTMLE.. I'm sure he's on most teams radar that has the NTMLE to use. Around 12.3m vs Denver only being able to offer him 7.8m.. J Murray has already hinted at him staying with Denver though, but that is a chunk of money to turn down knowing that with this new CBA looming Denver likely isn't paying him chunks more after this year either. Not sure if any of the teams with cap room would offer him more than the NTMLE, but if he could get something like that I'd probably jump on it as many teams will be limited to keeping guys they have on their roster after this year. Of course then he's picking money over rings, so who knows.

I was a little surprised the Lakers didn't make a move at the draft. Days leading up to the draft the talk of "Lakers intend to keep their pick" had changed to them wanting to S&T DLo, considering trading the pick, and picking up the Beasley and Bamba contracts to trade those too. Supposedly Pelinka was able to draft exactly who he wanted, and they turned down trades on draft night..

For the Lakers to get the NTMLE that would most likely mean Beasley and Bamba are gone. Depending on how Rui and DLo's contracts play out that could also give them a shot at the BAE, think it's around 4.5m.

While Bruce Brown (or someone similar) with the NTMLE is a big upgrade over Beasley and Bamba those salaries combined are like 26m. You'd have to find trade partners, maybe include a pick or picks, but with that money you could trade for two guys making NTMLE money, or one higher paid player. Not sure what that means for Lakers tax situation, but it seems like having all the Beasley, Bamba, DLo contracts on the books makes the most sense now and at the trade deadline just in case any of them are moved.

Assuming they could actually get Brown, it's a lot of redundancy on the roster with no other moves. He's a very versatile player, playing basically any role 2-4, but playing down he's at the Bron, Rui, Vando spots, playing guard he's at the Reaves, DLo, JHS, Christie, and possibly Dennis, Lonnie spot.. He would be an upgrade over many of them, but he doesn't fix their shooting or lack of big man depth which is probably their biggest issues, and Vando provides the perimeter defense you get from Brown.

Lakers have to make decisions on Beasley and Bamba today. If they let them go that pretty much dictates the Lakers options going forward. NTMLE, try to structure the DLo, Rui, Reaves deals to get the BAE as well. This route hard caps them at the first apron, and under the new CBA is the only way you can still have access to the buyout market. Going over takes that away.

Keeping Bamba might be a possibility if they forego the BAE. Gives them a backup big and a higher earning trade chip. Would take something like 14m for Rui, 12m Reaves, 12m Brown (or other MLE signing), 16-18ish for DLo.. Things also change if they view Hood-Schifino as a viable replacement for Reaves or DLo as they could then let either of them walk... Getting a guy like Brown also makes more sense with one of them gone, or if they are able to make a trade for more shooting.

Pipe-dream scenario for them would be moving DLo for one of their long time targets. DLo package for Turner, full MLE on Bruce Brown, use the BAE to add shooting. Given that it's unlikely they can actually trade for Turner, or that Brown chooses to go there, I still think foregoing the MLE and having all of DLo, Beasley, Bamba to trade at the deadline, or keep, makes the most sense.

[illwill10]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Jordan Clarkson will opt out

[ojandpizza]

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Lakers waive Bamba, and did not pick up the option for Beasley.

They have access to the full MLE.