UFC 3 - RPM TECH STRIKING DEEP DIVE

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: UFC 3 - RPM TECH STRIKING DEEP DIVE

If i throw a head kick at elbow or punch range what happens? can it land?

Yes, but it will land to the body at reduced damage.

Does GA still apply to certain headmovement positions when a takedown is attempted or defended like ea ufc 2?

Should be the same as UFC 2.

when denying a clinch/takedown what range management do you end up in? do different clinch/td attempts change the positions?

Although the ranges for TD and clinch attempts has been tuned, we didn't go in depth on range management as it pertains to them, above and beyond what was in UFC 2. I think there's a lot of future potential here.

What happens if your stamina floor drops to zero you cant strike anymore? how often can this happen if you decide to play aggressive?

You play a fatigued version of the strike which is extremely slow and leaves you very vulnerable.

How often if you play very aggressive? As in only throwing kicks? And not allowing your stamina to regen at all? It would happen all the time. But it's extremely easy to avoid with even a modest amount of awareness of your own stamina.

What are the benefits from chewing up someones leg? Are leg rocks/stuns still possible?

Reduced power on their strike, GA, easier health events (including interruption) on landed leg kicks.

Leg rocks/stuns are still possible, and we've added a leg KD state as well.

[HereticGabriel]

Re: UFC 3 - RPM TECH STRIKING DEEP DIVE

Wow wow hold on, when we throw a headkick if moving forward and miss, we may end up doing a spin like what actually happens? What about leg kicks? If moving forward and we throw a hard kick that misses, can we end up spinning around as well like you see fighters actually do sometimes?

[emmdeekay]

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The combo stuff is really intriguing I can't wait to try it out, sounds like a really good way of differentiating fighters and incentivising more realistic playstyles.

Do any combos animate in different ways or is it just the normal moves combined without/with fewer recovery frames?

Would you mind going into detail about the specific benefits of throwing hard combos. I understand that strikes will link together more quickly but apparently that's the same for soft combos too?

[johnmangala]

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I really hope clinch punches can cause health events, if not may it be patched in because it happens IRL-

[GameplayDevUFC]

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Do any combos animate in different ways or is it just the normal moves combined without/with fewer recovery frames?

Yes, there are quite a few that animate differently.

Body-body combos all animate differently.

Lead body hook to lead head hook animates differently.

The wiffed roundhouse to spinning backfist I mentioned earlier animates differently.

Too many to list.

Would you mind going into detail about the specific benefits of throwing hard combos. I understand that strikes will link together more quickly but apparently that's the same for soft combos too?

-faster than soft combos
-the damage you deal in each strike is calculated using the stamina you had when the combo started
-you can queue up the inputs, making them easier to throw quickly

[GameplayDevUFC]

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I really hope clinch punches can cause health events, if not may it be patched in because it happens IRL-

The ability for clinch punches to cause health events is the same as UFC 2.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 3 - RPM TECH STRIKING DEEP DIVE

The ability for clinch punches to cause health events is the same as UFC 2.

Please patch this in or something.

It happens IRL and can be used to break out of the clinch too-

[emmdeekay]

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Yes, there are quite a few that animate differently.

Body-body combos all animate differently.

Lead body hook to lead head hook animates differently.

The wiffed roundhouse to spinning backfist I mentioned earlier animates differently.

Too many to list.



-faster than soft combos
-the damage you deal in each strike is calculated using the stamina you had when the combo started
-you can queue up the inputs, making them easier to throw quickly

My goodness this is beginning to sound super spicy.

Last one for the meantime (I promise )

So say there's a combo that starts with a higher risk strike and ends with a lower risk one (like say a roundhouse into a straight for example). Does that open the possibility of making certain moves "safe" at the expense of the extra stamina needed to finish the combo? And are you worried about that at all?

The depth sounds incredible.

[TheVirus]

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Seeing that punches can connect at the same time, can these two combos be possible?

1) One fighter is knocked out, the other is knocked down?

2) Both fighters are knocked out at once?

[johnmangala]

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It even happened recently with Volkan Oezdemir

[GameplayDevUFC]

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My goodness this is beginning to sound super spicy.

Last one for the meantime (I promise )

So say there's a combo that starts with a higher risk strike and ends with a lower risk one (like say a roundhouse into a straight for example). Does that open the possibility of making certain moves "safe" at the expense of the extra stamina needed to finish the combo? And are you worried about that at all?

The depth sounds incredible.

I think this is where the finite nature of the combos will help. If I know my opponent has a roundhouse to straight combo, if he lands the roundhouse I'm not going to be eager to counter strike right away.

If I know he doesn't have the combo, then I know I'm safe to do so.

If I'm not sure if he has the combo, he can hold off using it all fight to bait you into a false sense of security, then pull it out at the opportune moment.

Also, slipping a strike in the combo will still give you a safe counter, so that's always an option.

But yeah, it's something to keep an eye on.

No way we'd get rid of it though, because some of those combos are awesome.

[GameplayDevUFC]

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Seeing that punches can connect at the same time, can these two combos be possible?

1) One fighter is knocked out, the other is knocked down?

2) Both fighters are knocked out at once?

1) Yes

2) No unfortunately, and only because we don't have the presentation assets to support it.

[emmdeekay]

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I think this is where the finite nature of the combos will help. If I know my opponent has a roundhouse to straight combo, if he lands the roundhouse I'm not going to be eager to counter strike right away.

If I know he doesn't have the combo, then I know I'm safe to do so.

If I'm not sure if he has the combo, he can hold off using it all fight to bait you into a false sense of security, then pull it out at the opportune moment.

Also, slipping a strike in the combo will still give you a safe counter, so that's always an option.

But yeah, it's something to keep an eye on.

No way we'd get rid of it though, because some of those combos are awesome.

Matchup knowledge, counter-play and layers of mind games; it's like you're trying to seduce me

Just so you know your confidence in your game has gotten my hype to peak levels I don't think any game could ever satisfy. Gonna be a long 4 days...

[GameplayDevUFC]

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Matchup knowledge, counter-play and layers of mind games; it's like you're trying to seduce me

Just so you know your confidence in your game has gotten my hype to peak levels I don't think any game could ever satisfy. Gonna be a long 4 days...

OK, let's bring it back down to reality.

The game is awesome. Really fun to play.

But I can almost guarantee the beta will expose some problems.

So lets all keep calm for now, until we get a few days into the beta.

If nothing catches fire, we can all breathe a big sigh of relief.

If anything goes sideways, I've got a busy couple of weeks ahead of me.

Fingers crossed!

[PapaLemur]

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Aside from the cool things like double knockdowns and the signature combos and lunges, the best thing I read was the fact that you can queue slips into your combo. If it's what I think that means, you can throw a jab, straight, slip a counter they've been throwing and land a left hook. But input the control before you even need it just like a strike. Very cool.

I have a question if one of the devs can answer: in the past games you could generally only throw left-right-left-right combos. You would usually get a penalty on speed or combo multipliers for throwing two strikes in a row from the same side. If anyone has high level experience in a striking art, you know that mixing in a strike from the same side you just threw from is key to breaking patterns your opponent is used to.

With the new system, can I throw a jab - left head hook combo efficiently?