The strongest punishment to side sway spam

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

....Soo its realistic?

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Go watch Ross Pearson vs Will Brooks for a less comical example.

[Sivo]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

as someone in division 4 and not a top player it feels like the ppl using headmovement are getting too big a reward for not enough skill. I struggle with reactive shots and predicting ppls punches/kicks and it just feels like much lower skilled fighters are able to destroy me by using the sway spam. IRL slipping shots takes a really high level striker and is very risky, in the game it takes much less skill and really isnt that risky.

It feels like u have to be much better than the person using the spam in order to beat them (or i could just be rubbish)

edit:Also there are only a handful of fighters in the ufc truly proficient with headmovement but everyone in this game is mayweather

[Boiler569]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

If these players are on PS4... I'd like to play them. Open invitation to anyone who thinks what I'm saying is off. I can also explain it a lot better over voice chat because we can respond to each other easier and express ourselves better. I get I'm being a bit bullheaded but it's because I really believe in what I'm saying and feel I've provided the evidence. For some it's obviously not enough. So let's play some matches and put all your doubts to the test.

Swaying and then throwing one strike is OP. Not throwing a bunch after. Not letting go of block after. The fact that it's possible to punish doesn't mean it isn't OP and the reward doesn't outweigh the risk way too much.

The Top 5 guy i was referencing was definitely doing sways and then 1-shot.

He was even somewhat disciplined in when he threw a strike out of his sway.

But yea, he definitely just swayyyyyyed all day (t-shirt idea)

Try to be patient and outwork him but in a 5-round fight all it takes is one or two mess-ups (or lag spikes) lol

especially when they are McGregor --- which this guy was --- so yea it's an extreme example with extreme stats I'll give you that. But it was still.....just rough man, just rough LOL

[johnmangala]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Go watch Ross Pearson vs Will Brooks for a less comical example.

Right. It demonstrates head movement is tiring.

[_Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The new sway system is flat amazing. Anyone who disagrees just doesnt get it yet. This system rewards pure skill. UFC 2 was nothing but luck but in UFC 3 I feel like im painting a picture of destruction with artistic brush strokes of head swaying immaculate beauty.

If you feel like its unfair you probably just havent played enough or dont understand the intricacies of the complexities of this new system. Once you peel the layers back like an onion theaux, this thing is locked and loaded, and once it clicks, it just bangs!

Im tellin ya. Hats off.

[kush land]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

big ben was barely moving hes head i think the game is like a never ending clay guida mixed with mike tyson its fukin hopeless someone just duked into my uppercut then duk uppercut me into rocked state everything seems so random either that or this game hates me im growling at my tv like wolverine

[johnmangala]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The new sway system is flat amazing. Anyone who disagrees just doesnt get it yet. This system rewards pure skill. UFC 2 was nothing but luck but in UFC 3 I feel like im painting a picture of destruction with artistic brush strokes of head swaying immaculate beauty.

If you feel like its unfair you probably just havent played enough or dont understand the intricacies of the complexities of this new system. Once you peel the layers back like an onion theaux, this thing is locked and loaded, and once it clicks, it just bangs!

Im tellin ya. Hats off.

Immaculate beauty. Lol

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Right. It demonstrates head movement is tiring.

The thing people campaigning for a stamina tax on head movement don't seem to realize that it would change very little in terms of effectiveness of the head movement spam.

In all the videos I've seen of this being used effectively, it's not being spammed in the literal sense. There's plenty of time to regen your stamina between sways.

And if we added a long term tax, it would be small. Smaller than striking.

It's not going to magically fix everything like you think it will.

What it will do, is make pressure fighting more viable and will make defending yourself while rocked, or at low stamina near impossible.

[Boiler569]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The new sway system is flat amazing. Anyone who disagrees just doesnt get it yet. This system rewards pure skill. UFC 2 was nothing but luck but in UFC 3 I feel like im painting a picture of destruction with artistic brush strokes of head swaying immaculate beauty.

If you feel like its unfair you probably just havent played enough or dont understand the intricacies of the complexities of this new system. Once you peel the layers back like an onion theaux, this thing is locked and loaded, and once it clicks, it just bangs!

Im tellin ya. Hats off.

I do agree in some respects, it's a nice addition and once balanced, will be awesome

Question: Do you believe it should be possible to do 50+ sways per round without a tax on stamina?

[Zeta Reticulan1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Yeah, I really don't want a stamina tax on head movement. It needs to be there as a defensive option to rely on when stamina is low.

Imagine having very low long term stamina and just dodging a couple of punches, and then not being able to respond because you consumed all of your stamina. That's just silly.

[kush land]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

over 8 days im fukin twitchin from the strikes haven't played enough lol

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Solid... You play tested with me last time when I was saying high block was OP and ended up agreeing. Let's do it again but for this? I'd prefer if the person I'm doing it with has a mic though. It'd make everything so much easier. Discussing this on a forum is difficult when the game is so layered.

[Boiler569]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The thing people campaigning for a stamina tax on head movement don't seem to realize that it would change very little in terms of effectiveness of the head movement spam.

In all the videos I've seen of this being used effectively, it's not being spammed in the literal sense. There's plenty of time to regen your stamina between sways.

And if we added a long term tax, it would be small. Smaller than striking.

It's not going to magically fix everything like you think it will.

What it will do, is make pressure fighting more viable and will make defending yourself while rocked, or at low stamina near impossible.

It's not going to fix everything magically for sure.

But a small stamina tax + small grapple disadvantage/reduction in TDD + a bit more vulnerability to Body Strikes if swaying into them = Big Results on the margin

[xtremeba1000]

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big ben was barely moving hes head i think the game is like a never ending clay guida mixed with mike tyson its fukin hopeless someone just duked into my uppercut then duk uppercut me into rocked state everything seems so random either that or this game hates me im growling at my tv like wolverine

I'm having the same problem. If someone sways RIGHT into a punch no rock. but if they sway after my punch landed they rock me with any punch they throw

[johnmangala]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The thing people campaigning for a stamina tax on head movement don't seem to realize that it would change very little in terms of effectiveness of the head movement spam.

In all the videos I've seen of this being used effectively, it's not being spammed in the literal sense. There's plenty of time to regen your stamina between sways.

And if we added a long term tax, it would be small. Smaller than striking.

It's not going to magically fix everything like you think it will.

What it will do, is make pressure fighting more viable and will make defending yourself while rocked, or at low stamina near impossible.

I am not saying it's a fix all, far from it. Just it would be better.

A small long term perm stamina tax would be fine by me.

I think it would make the excessive head swaying become less.

Increasing the vulerability would help too imo. Also having no delay from chaining lunges with striking/grappling like how striking and grappling can be with the new patch.