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  • _Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 19

    #166
    Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

    Originally posted by Serengeti95
    Top ten in the world. Two accounts in top 100. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm right and I'm willing to admit that. Certainly brings up the credibility of my opinion though. As I said... Am always available to test.
    I regularly bang on top 10 players. Im not having any issues with timing. This game responds instantly to my inputs, allowing me to weave through many complex systems, systematicly shutting down my opposition. I just put in a lot of practice memorizing combos like you should to. We all gotta start somewhere so its totally ok.

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    • _Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 19

      #167
      Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

      Originally posted by Serengeti95
      Your skill isn't the issue. It's too unreliable and isn't enough to create balance.
      I use lunges all the time to dodge strikes and set up counters. Its all about practice and memorizing combos. They feel fluid and responsive to me. You just gotta pay attention, be aware, and use your skill. The mechanics work beautifully once you really click-
      Then you can bang.

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      • bmlimo
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1123

        #168
        Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

        Originally posted by _Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_
        I regularly bang on top 10 players. Im not having any issues with timing. This game responds instantly to my inputs, allowing me to weave through many complex systems, systematicly shutting down my opposition. I just put in a lot of practice memorizing combos like you should to. We all gotta start somewhere so its totally ok.
        Dragon ball mr satan, are you?

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        • xtremeba1000
          Pro
          • Aug 2017
          • 772

          #169
          Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

          Originally posted by _Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_
          I regularly bang on top 10 players. Im not having any issues with timing. This game responds instantly to my inputs, allowing me to weave through many complex systems, systematicly shutting down my opposition. I just put in a lot of practice memorizing combos like you should to. We all gotta start somewhere so its totally ok.
          Are you trolling?

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          • bmlimo
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1123

            #170
            Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

            Originally posted by xtremeba1000
            Are you trolling?
            Yeah kkk but he has creativity we have to give him that kkk

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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #171
              Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

              Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
              Yeah, I really don't want a stamina tax on head movement. It needs to be there as a defensive option to rely on when stamina is low.

              Imagine having very low long term stamina and just dodging a couple of punches, and then not being able to respond because you consumed all of your stamina. That's just silly.
              You think someone like Mayweather is going to for head movment if he were gassed? There is priority when in comes to defense.

              Mayweather pretty much uses head movment when he is fresh and trying to show off, otherwise he's primarly using footwork, blocking, or the clinch.

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              • Phillyboi207
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 3159

                #172
                Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                Originally posted by johnmangala
                You think someone like Mayweather is going to for head movment if he were gassed? There is priority when in comes to defense.

                Mayweather pretty much uses head movment when he is fresh and trying to show off, otherwise he's primarly using footwork, blocking, or the clinch.
                Exactly

                Fighters usually get KTFO when they're gassed because they can't use head movement as well anymore.

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #173
                  Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                  Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                  Exactly

                  Fighters usually get KTFO when they're gassed because they can't use head movement as well anymore.
                  I'm not talking about end of round 3 kind of tired.

                  I'm talking about first minute of round one, I just threw a 3 strike combo that ended in a missed head kick.

                  You want to be defenseless in that situation?

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                  • johnmangala
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4525

                    #174
                    Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                    Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                    Exactly

                    Fighters usually get KTFO when they're gassed because they can't use head movement as well anymore.
                    I generally feel over/under should be one of the better options for defense when rocked especially since no strike there can hurt you in the game.

                    If there were a smoother entry for it besides the current hand clamping it would be good imo.

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                    • johnmangala
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4525

                      #175
                      Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                      I'm not talking about end of round 3 kind of tired.

                      I'm talking about first minute of round one, I just threw a 3 strike combo that ended in a missed head kick.

                      You want to be defenseless in that situation?
                      How is head movement the best option from that situation.

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                      • Nugget7211
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1401

                        #176
                        Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                        Originally posted by johnmangala
                        How is head movement the best option from that situation.
                        In terms of game mechanics? Because the block doesn't prevent 100% of damage and low stamina increases the amount of damage I take, so it's entirely possible that an overhand for example would rock/drop me through my block which is something that could be avoided entirely by ducking.

                        In terms of real life? Missing a high kick doesn't immediately gas me, so I could still move my head fine.
                        **** off, Nugget7211 - GPD, 2017 & 2018
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                        • johnmangala
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4525

                          #177
                          Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                          Originally posted by Nugget7211
                          In terms of game mechanics? Because the block doesn't prevent 100% of damage and low stamina increases the amount of damage I take, so it's entirely possible that an overhand for example would rock/drop me through my block which is something that could be avoided entirely by ducking.

                          In terms of real life? Missing a high kick doesn't immediately gas me, so I could still move my head fine.
                          Head movment would decrease your permanent long term stamina, so you would still be able to move your head with low stamina it just would continue to chip away from your long term stamina.

                          In terms of real life, I can't find examples of someone missing a kick and using the head movement as their first line of defense. It's generally footwork or block.

                          And since this is not talking about someone rocked or gassed but in round one. Your block should deal with it.

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                          • kush land
                            Banned
                            • May 2016
                            • 443

                            #178
                            Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                            I've noticed some fighters have different regular lunges are these just for visual effects or are they different/more effective because cmacs step back counters seem way better then anybody else they seemed more responsive and seemed to cover more ground?

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                            • EJ_Manuel
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 464

                              #179
                              Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                              Why does a missed headkick deplete all your stamina anyways? Kickers are completely useless in this game and it's sad.

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                              • Zeta Reticulan1
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 471

                                #180
                                Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                                Originally posted by johnmangala
                                You think someone like Mayweather is going to for head movment if he were gassed? There is priority when in comes to defense.

                                Mayweather pretty much uses head movment when he is fresh and trying to show off, otherwise he's primarly using footwork, blocking, or the clinch.
                                Or when he's trapped in a corner trying to maintain stamina while the other fighter gasses himself out.

                                I never said anyone would attempt head movement gassed. I think there shouldn't be a stamina penalty for utilizing it though.

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