The strongest punishment to side sway spam

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The thing people campaigning for a stamina tax on head movement don't seem to realize that it would change very little in terms of effectiveness of the head movement spam.

In all the videos I've seen of this being used effectively, it's not being spammed in the literal sense. There's plenty of time to regen your stamina between sways.

And if we added a long term tax, it would be small. Smaller than striking.

It's not going to magically fix everything like you think it will.

What it will do, is make pressure fighting more viable and will make defending yourself while rocked, or at low stamina near impossible.

People don't defend themselves with head movement when they have low stamina. They block and look for duck/upper because of how OP it is. I do it all the time too if I have low stam because duck/upper is OP. You can literally have none and still win like that. If that doesn't demonstrate it's OP... I don't know what does.

That said, I also agree that a stamina tax is not what's going to solve this issue. However, a slight stamina tax could help when someone is abusing stationary head movement on the outside.

[Thetruth9012]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The thing people campaigning for a stamina tax on head movement don't seem to realize that it would change very little in terms of effectiveness of the head movement spam.

In all the videos I've seen of this being used effectively, it's not being spammed in the literal sense. There's plenty of time to regen your stamina between sways.

And if we added a long term tax, it would be small. Smaller than striking.

It's not going to magically fix everything like you think it will.

What it will do, is make pressure fighting more viable and will make defending yourself while rocked, or at low stamina near impossible.

If they will spam sways they will be at stamina disadvantage so that will help a little at least but it cant be the only one fix to this.

[kush land]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Getting leg kicked while using headmovement should do major damage i bet they stop doin it then?

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Getting leg kicked while using headmovement should do major damage i bet they stop doin it then?

It already does. Especially fwd moving head movement.

[kush land]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

i mean when there just standing there ducking or leaning

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

GPD... If you had a PS4 I'd be your best friend and worst enemy because I'm sure I could demonstrate areas of the game that are unbalanced and need work. It's much easier to test stuff against a computer in slow motion and say that since it's punishable it isn't an issue.

[johnmangala]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I do agree in some respects, it's a nice addition and once balanced, will be awesome

Question: Do you believe it should be possible to do 50+ sways per round without a tax on stamina?

Lol come on now that was some sarcasm : p

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

what is your psn id serengeti

[_Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

GPD... If you had a PS4 I'd be your best friend and worst enemy because I'm sure I could demonstrate areas of the game that are unbalanced and need work. It's much easier to test stuff against a computer in slow motion and say that since it's punishable it isn't an issue.

I think you just need a little more practice. Im not having any issues at all what so ever. Its a very complex system so it can take a little bit of work to really learn the ins and outs. I think youll pick it up and start banging if you dont give up. Just keep hammering!

[kush land]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Can anyone use the regular lunges to counter somebody thats good. iits so hard 2 even time the lunge plus if therre throwing more then 1 strike u cant counter cause there 2nd strike comes so fast u get hit? so is it even possible to lunge back avoid jab then side step the straight and counter or if they have a hook coming at the end of the 1 2 combo is that gonna hit me before my counter hits them?

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

what is your psn id serengeti

FearFyah is my main account

I think you just need a little more practice. Im not having any issues at all what so ever. Its a very complex system so it can take a little bit of work to really lean the ins and outs. I think youll pick it up and start banging if you dont give up l. Just keep hammering!

Top ten in the world. Two accounts in top 100. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm right and I'm willing to admit that. Certainly brings up the credibility of my opinion though. As I said... Am always available to test.

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Can anyone use the regular lunges to counter somebody thats good. iits so hard 2 even time the lunge plus if therre throwing more then 1 strike u cant counter cause there 2nd strike comes so fast u get hit? so is it even possible to lunge back avoid jab then side step the straight and counter or if they have a hook coming at the end of the 1 2 combo is that gonna hit me before my counter hits them?

Your skill isn't the issue. It's too unreliable and isn't enough to create balance.

[jamesbenz1993]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I keep fighting a guy who puts me up against the cage and spams 1-2, head kicks til my block breaks and I can’t duck the kick it comes to quick and the 1-2 puts me in a hit stun, same guy 3 times...

[johnmangala]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Lunges have very high vulerability I would recommend them, but you could just end up lunging into the kick instead away.

Tying up should be better imo.

[Boiler569]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Your skill isn't the issue. It's too unreliable and isn't enough to create balance.

For a lot of these tactics, you can be successful with them 4 out of 5 times, but when you slip up the 5th time (or there's a lag spike, or your well timed and distanced counter doesn't register) --- you're getting knocked to the moon.

I mean, it IS a good challenge and does improve your skill to go against these exploiter cheezers lol

It's just a bit....frustrating...yeaaaaa thats the word


I also just want to re-iterate that vulnerability to TAKEDOWNS could be a major way to counter swayers

I try to take shots on these guys but doesn't seem like it matters if I time their sway well or not. Same (low chance) of scoring a TD