UFC 4: Needs vs. Wants

[Haz____]

Re: UFC 4: Needs vs. Wants

Come on man, Ronda's a pioneer and had a career full of great performances, to say the least. She was the woman to beat until she got beat. Also, being recognised as a legend does not depend on how long you've been retired for, but your accomplishments, of which Ronda has her share.

I'm pretty much 100% positive in other sports they have a set amount of time(multiple years) someone has to be retired before being considered for Hall of Fame and the like.

Ronda is a pioneer of womens MMA, but she only juuuuust retired. And went out as the poorest sport in the history of the sport.


Give it time.



Respect the real OGs first.

[Kingslayer04]

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I'm pretty much 100% positive in other sports they have a set amount of time(multiple years) someone has to be retired before being considered for Hall of Fame and the like.

Ronda is a pioneer of womens MMA, but she only juuuuust retired. And went out as the poorest sport in the history of the sport.


Give it time.



Respect the real OGs first.

Bisping, Faber, Evans, BJ Penn while being active. It's not about that man, it's about the achievements and legacy. I don't think how she went out is that bad either (not that it matters, really): the woman's done with fighting and is pursuing other interests.

Anyway, let's not derail this thread any further.

[RomeroXVII]

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https://youtu.be/9IT51Ct1XaU

Major Want: Fixing the tracking error with the body straight while lunging away from it (Shown in this video)

[Haz____]

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Bisping, Faber, Evans, BJ Penn while being active. It's not about that man, it's about the achievements and legacy. I don't think how she went out is that bad either (not that it matters, really): the woman's done with fighting and is pursuing other interests.

Anyway, let's not derail this thread any further.

Bisping, Penn, Faber, and Evans don't have Icon fighters either. Let alone a locked in -champion only- Icon fighter.



With how Ronda handled her losses and ran away from the sport never to acknowledge them, and literally refusing to talk about them, only doing interviews if the interviewer agrees to not bring it up at all..... if you can't see the pulpable immense irony in the fact she is locked in as an undefeated champ only in the game, you are intentionally not looking.







WANTS: Icon "Pride" Big Nog. First man to win belts in Pride and UFC. Pioneer of the sport. Legend.


Respect the real OGs

[MacGowan]

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If we measure how legends and icons leave the sport we'd have slim pickings...

It's usually on a stretcher.

[aholbert32]

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Bisping, Penn, Faber, and Evans don't have Icon fighters either. Let alone a locked in -champion only- Icon fighter.



With how Ronda handled her losses and ran away from the sport never to acknowledge them, and literally refusing to talk about them, only doing interviews if the interviewer agrees to not bring it up at all..... if you can't see the pulpable immense irony in the fact she is locked in as an undefeated champ only in the game, you are intentionally not looking.







WANTS: Icon "Pride" Big Nog. First man to win belts in Pride and UFC. Pioneer of the sport. Legend.


Respect the real OGs

FYI, every Icon fighter is a version of them at the height of their career.

[Haz____]

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FYI, every Icon fighter is a version of them at the height of their career.

Id say that's debatable.

Wand for example is def not Prime Pride Wand who was destroying everyone.


Cro Cop is still late stage old Cro Cop.

[MacGowan]

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Id say that's debatable.

Wand for example is def not Prime Pride Wand who was destroying everyone.


Cro Cop is still late stage old Cro Cop.

Yeah, are we talking stats or skins? cuz some of these icons look oold.

[RomeroXVII]

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Id say that's debatable.

Wand for example is def not Prime Pride Wand who was destroying everyone.


Cro Cop is still late stage old Cro Cop.

They updated Wanderlei ages ago, you should check him out. Even got signature hooks.

[Kingslayer04]

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If that Wanderlei in the game is not his prime version, I don't even want to see his true form.

As for Bisping and the rest, I thought we were talking about Hall of Fame inclusions. Those guys were included shortly after their retirements.

Anyway, Ronda is a legend and is deserving of her legend character. I find the 12-2 to 12-0 weird, but I suppose it's Pre-Holly Ronda. But I don't know if for example Tito Ortiz has a 2006 record with fewer losses.

[Haz____]

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They updated Wanderlei ages ago, you should check him out. Even got signature hooks.

That's not prime Wand. That's still Wand at the tail end of his career.



This is the Prime Pride Wand.
5 year, 18 fight win streak.
PRIDE Middleweight Champion, and the 2003 PRIDE Middleweight Grand Prix Tournament Champion.

[MacGowan]

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Yeah, I think we might be talking about 2 different things here. one thing is the stats, and the other is the skins.

It's a bit sloppy and confusing that some of these Icons have stats from 2003, skins from 2012, and shorts from 2019.

[aholbert32]

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Yeah, I think we might be talking about 2 different things here. one thing is the stats, and the other is the skins.

It's a bit sloppy and confusing that some of these Icons have stats from 2003, skins from 2012, and shorts from 2019.

Every Icon fighter has shorts (minus sponsors) that they had during the time their fighter is from.

[aholbert32]

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If that Wanderlei in the game is not his prime version, I don't even want to see his true form.

As for Bisping and the rest, I thought we were talking about Hall of Fame inclusions. Those guys were included shortly after their retirements.

Anyway, Ronda is a legend and is deserving of her legend character. I find the 12-2 to 12-0 weird, but I suppose it's Pre-Holly Ronda. But I don't know if for example Tito Ortiz has a 2006 record with fewer losses.

Its specifically the Ronda who just beat Bethe. The devs wanted that version.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

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I also hope simultaneous stuns are cut down. This happens a bit too often and usually one of those strikes hit earlier than the other and should cause a whiffed strike that doesn’t actually hurt the other. It’s especially bad with kicks imo. Prior UFC games didn’t have this issue, I’m guessing it’s a tweak needed in both the new striking and vulnerability system maybe.

Also, fought a guy that started spamming spinning backfist and knees after getting dropped for about the 4th time lol. It just looks hilarious and so bad that they can even do that. It was an easy KO after he did that but I really looked at it this time and it’s just an eye sore on top of being complete spam.


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