The Game Outside of the Game - Issues and How to Fix Them

[young22]

Re: The Game Outside of the Game - Issues and How to Fix Them

What's the threshold/speed on these? I'll try them out for a few games.

Here's the set I've been going with for a while, a slightly modified Matt10's.

heisman
normal speed, 20 thresh
-pen
99 80 80 55 99 50 1 50 99 1 10
-hum/cpu
10 30 35 40 5 25 35 10 25--70 35 50 100 50
10 35 35 40 35 30 30 50 40--70 35 50 100 50

Normal speed, 47 threshold. I think user RBA and RD are going up though, I'm gonna try it next game I play.

Check out my dynasty!

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=921027

[mattlanta]

Re: The Game Outside of the Game - Issues and How to Fix Them

How do I wipe out coaching skill trees?

[Kotter]

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How do I wipe out coaching skill trees?

You can only do it during the off-season.


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[Tuscaloosa]

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How do I wipe out coaching skill trees?

Yeah, off-season, during the Custom Conferences segment; same skill tree menu as before.

[young22]

Re: The Game Outside of the Game - Issues and How to Fix Them

Fatigue off is the best. 6-4, everything feels earned.

[acts238shaun]

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Something that ramped up the challenge, player lock. I've lost as a mediocre team to default roster Stanford 70-21 with Matt 10's.

[Tuscaloosa]

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Just finished my fourth season doing everything in OP.

Ohio: 11-3, MAC Champions, Go Daddy bowl win.

K-State:
Year 1: 9-4, Cotton Bowl win.
Year 2: 10-3, Orange Bowl win.
Year 3: 8-5, Beef O'Brady Bowl win.

I love that 8-5. I can't tell you how many dynasties I've won the National Championship in year 3. I had several OT games throughout, particularly in Years 1 & 2 at K-State. Those two years could have easily been 2-3 losses worse. I've had many games go down to the wire. I've blown out teams and have been destroyed myself. I've had many high scoring affairs, most games at average scores, and also a handful of low scoring defensive battles. Most importantly - the play on field. I have seen so many realistic plays, in terms of looks and results. I wanted to put in several seasons before giving results just to be absolutely sure of my setup - never been happier with this game. It's sad knowing how many people will never try this because of the lack of fatigue, subs, injuries. I know it takes away from realism, but I assure you, it adds a million times more realism than it takes away. I've never tried a single set that didn't suffer in the realism department in some way; that, unfortunately, seems to be just hard coded into the game. So, the next time that bored feeling is creepin' in on you around year 3 or 4, go wild and give these a shot.

[migraine247]

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Just finished my fourth season doing everything in OP.



Ohio: 11-3, MAC Champions, Go Daddy bowl win.



K-State:

Year 1: 9-4, Cotton Bowl win.

Year 2: 10-3, Orange Bowl win.

Year 3: 8-5, Beef O'Brady Bowl win.



I love that 8-5. I can't tell you how many dynasties I've won the National Championship in year 3. I had several OT games throughout, particularly in Years 1 & 2 at K-State. Those two years could have easily been 2-3 losses worse. I've had many games go down to the wire. I've blown out teams and have been destroyed myself. I've had many high scoring affairs, most games at average scores, and also a handful of low scoring defensive battles. Most importantly - the play on field. I have seen so many realistic plays, in terms of looks and results. I wanted to put in several seasons before giving results just to be absolutely sure of my setup - never been happier with this game. It's sad knowing how many people will never try this because of the lack of fatigue, subs, injuries. I know it takes away from realism, but I assure you, it adds a million times more realism than it takes away. I've never tried a single set that didn't suffer in the realism department in some way; that, unfortunately, seems to be just hard coded into the game. So, the next time that bored feeling is creepin' in on you around year 3 or 4, go wild and give these a shot.

Awesome. Sounds so fun. I’m just getting back into it after a few years away. Do you do any of the mods? Like the playoff etc??


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[Tuscaloosa]

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Awesome. Sounds so fun. I’m just getting back into it after a few years away. Do you do any of the mods? Like the playoff etc??


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I haven't attempted a mod yet. I've been so focused on getting the on-field play where I want it that I haven't really looked into the playoff. Now that I have the game playing like I do, I may look into the playoff soon. I honestly don't mind the old system for now, as these settings have me nowhere near the natty (and unlike real life, that feels incredible lol), but if I ever get around top 5 status I could see myself feeling a lot more compelled to figure out that playoff.

[Tuscaloosa]

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That is insane. Onside kick fumble recovery for a game winner. On every slider set I've ever tried, including default, the dive can leave you so vulnerable to fumbles. It's overdone to the point where it's very unrealistic. I never dive in the field of play, except for the QB slide and the little WR fall down. Years ago, I started hurdling at the goal line instead of diving; fumbles still occur, just at a more realistic rate and it even looks more realistic to me as you can/will get flipped "over the pile".

[SilverBullet19]

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That is insane. Onside kick fumble recovery for a game winner. On every slider set I've ever tried, including default, the dive can leave you so vulnerable to fumbles. It's overdone to the point where it's very unrealistic. I never dive in the field of play, except for the QB slide and the little WR fall down. Years ago, I started hurdling at the goal line instead of diving; fumbles still occur, just at a more realistic rate and it even looks more realistic to me as you can/will get flipped "over the pile".

couldn't agree more. Nothing is as ridiculous as diving into the endzone untouched and fumbling the ball anyway.

[young22]

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57-55 4OT loss to Houston with my new teambuilder. One of the best games I've ever played. We were heavy underdogs, and had a 10 point lead before Houston came roaring back to force OT.

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[Tuscaloosa]

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Just thought I would give an overall update for those who might be interested. I've yet to have that "here we go again" moment with this setup. I thought it might be happening in year 4 at K-State, going undefeated through the regular season. Then, in the NC, we played a top notch team in ND and got it handed to us by a few scores. I then looked at the season overall and I realized we were in fact the second best team in the B12, and managed to upset Texas by a slim margin; so the season was realistic in my mind. I was hoping the next year wouldn't be that typical "right back to the NC year" that you so often see, especially since my team got significantly worse with all the talent that graduated. And to my delight, we had a mediocre year with a mediocre team, barely meeting the 9 wins desired in my contract.

Ohio:
11-3, MAC Champions, Go Daddy bowl win.

K-State:
Year 1: 9-4, Cotton Bowl win.
Year 2: 10-3, Orange Bowl win.
Year 3: 8-5, Beef O'Brady Bowl win.
Year 4: 12-1, B12 Champions, lost to Notre Dame in the NC.
Year 5: 9-4, Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl win.
Probably the most hard fought, realistic comeback I've ever had came against Michigan in this BWW bowl. We were down 31-10 at halftime; won 38-37 on a final second FG that was iced due to skill trees being cleared. I actually didn't know whether it would go or not when I kicked it, awesome moment.

[young22]

Re: The Game Outside of the Game - Issues and How to Fix Them

Just thought I would give an overall update for those who might be interested. I've yet to have that "here we go again" moment with this setup. I thought it might be happening in year 4 at K-State, going undefeated through the regular season. Then, in the NC, we played a top notch team in ND and got it handed to us by a few scores. I then looked at the season overall and I realized we were in fact the second best team in the B12, and managed to upset Texas by a slim margin; so the season was realistic in my mind. I was hoping the next year wouldn't be that typical "right back to the NC year" that you so often see, especially since my team got significantly worse with all the talent that graduated. And to my delight, we had a mediocre year with a mediocre team, barely meeting the 9 wins desired in my contract.

Ohio:
11-3, MAC Champions, Go Daddy bowl win.

K-State:
Year 1: 9-4, Cotton Bowl win.
Year 2: 10-3, Orange Bowl win.
Year 3: 8-5, Beef O'Brady Bowl win.
Year 4: 12-1, B12 Champions, lost to Notre Dame in the NC.
Year 5: 9-4, Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl win.
Probably the most hard fought, realistic comeback I've ever had came against Michigan in this BWW bowl. We were down 31-10 at halftime; won 38-37 on a final second FG that was iced due to skill trees being cleared. I actually didn't know whether it would go or not when I kicked it, awesome moment.

About to see how things go with a teambuilder. Went 10-3, beating a 9-4 Miami team 37-34 in a Russell Athletic Bowl comeback. That game felt really realistic, as I switched from running the cover 3 I ran all year, which got shredded in the first half, to running mostly cover 1 and 2 man under. 4 second half picks, multiple incompletions, it was like they were unprepared for the scheme switch.

We got a really good class, lot of guys with talent, few guys good enough to play from the jump. But the O-line isn't the strongest, and we don't have great edge rushers. Also starting 3 new guys in the secondary, so our defense might be iffy. Should be an interesting season. We're in the American.

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[young22]

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So we beat Iowa 37-24. New QB goes off. Then we lose 24-21 to NC State (now an option team), thanks to 2 late picks and multiple big runs by their QB. And I thought the season would be easy...

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