Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

In my world of thinking, if Vick wasn't involved in all of this, nobody would be worrying if his punishment was too severe.

To some, that may be a nutty way of thinking, but when you get yourself in trouble...you gotta eat the s**t that is given to you. Life's not fair. Especially when you go around with no caution and with no common sense.

He did the crime. Now, he does the time. End of story for me.




This thread is still going on? Geez.

True.

[P2K]

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So what you're saying is you have no compassion or even a hint of guilt for the turkeys you cook every thanksgiving? Because it doesn't live with you? So would you feel just as bad for a wolf since they are a part of the dog species?

You don't eat turkey? Or burgers?

[Double Eights]

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So what you're saying is you have no compassion or even a hint of guilt for the turkeys you cook every thanksgiving? Because it doesn't live with you? So would you feel just as bad for a wolf since they are a part of the dog species?

Again, I eat turkey. I don't eat dog.

Killing an animal as a source of food is totally different than killing an animal as a source of entertainment.

[mgoblue]

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So what you're saying is you have no compassion or even a hint of guilt for the turkeys you cook every thanksgiving? Because it doesn't live with you? So would you feel just as bad for a wolf since they are a part of the dog species?

Are we forcing turkeys to fight before drowning or electrocuting them to death in a very inhumane manner?

Keep in mind that Vick and these guys weren't treating these dogs in the clinical manner a butcher does.

[P2K]

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Again, I eat turkey. I don't eat dog.

Killing an animal as a source of food is totally different than killing an animal as a source of entertainment.

I'm going to sit and wait for the excuse used before on this subject of how dog and cat is used for food in other countries. That's a hoot of a defense right there.

Or did someone use it in this thread already?

[Graphik]

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You don't eat turkey? Or burgers?

I eat anything. I've always said that we as humans are on top of the food chain so everything under us is potential grub. If it has flavor, I'll try it. This is after discovering the secrets of chinese fast food. I know what they use but ******* if it isn't tasty.

[aholbert32]

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We don't kill turkeys for fun, it's to eat. Part of the food chain. Vick didn't torture those dogs so he could eat them.

In some cultures, dogs are part of the food chain. I think Vick got the right amount of time for the crime but lets not act like there isnt a bit of hipocracy in being fine with hunting and hating dogfighting.

[realtalktruth]

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In my world of thinking, if Vick wasn't involved in all of this, nobody would be worrying if his punishment was too severe.

To some, that may be a nutty way of thinking, but when you get yourself in trouble...you gotta eat the s**t that is given to you. Life's not fair. Especially when you go around with no caution and with no common sense.

He did the crime. Now, he does the time. End of story for me.




This thread is still going on? Geez.

if someone made a thread like this before the whole vick thing i would be the first in that thread to defend them. i watch michael vick on t.v. while i probably would not know the other person so i would not waste that much time, but i guarantee you i would defend them.

[Brandwin]

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Again, I eat turkey. I don't eat dog.

Killing an animal as a source of food is totally different than killing an animal as a source of entertainment.

You don't some do. Some people don't eat pig, but a lot of us do.

[P2K]

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I eat anything. I've always said that we as humans are on top of the food chain so everything under us is potential grub. If it has flavor, I'll try it. This is after discovering the secrets of chinese fast food. I know what they use but ******* if it isn't tasty.

......Ain't gonna lie. Chinese food can be damn good.

[Cebby]

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Killing an animal as a source of food is totally different than killing an animal as a source of entertainment.

I would maintain that eating any animal in America in 2007 is a source of entertainment. You are not eating animals because it's the best food source; you're eating animals because they taste yummy.

[P2K]

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if someone made a thread like this before the whole vick thing i would be the first in that thread to defend them. i watch michael vick on t.v. while i probably would not know the other person so i would not waste that much time, but i guarantee you i would defend them.

I and I'm sure others would have a hard time believing that.

[Graphik]

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Are we forcing turkeys to fight before drowning or electrocuting them to death in a very inhumane manner?

Keep in mind that Vick and these guys weren't treating these dogs in the clinical manner a butcher does.

Does that make it any more better that a butcher can slaughter animals because they use clinical practices? And who said the dogs were forced to fight? They were breeded, raised and trained to fight. I can think of plenty examples of humans being forced to fight but thats an entirely different conversation as we all know.

[NovaStar]

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Eh I actually own a dog...and a cat. Had numerous dogs and cats, gerbils and goldfish throughout my life. While we can grow to be attached to an pet, the truth is that they are as expendable a creature as you can ever have. I've lost dogs, had dogs put to sleep and had to give away dogs I've grown attached to. While I can admit it hurts to lose what one would consider a friend, I can also admit that the hurt a person feels over losing an animal is more artificial than sincere. If the said animal was replaced by next week, the old animal will be nothing more than a memory and all is well again. And this is coming from someone who owns a 15 year old dog.

Graphic, you honestly don't believe that "the hurt a person feels over losing an animal is artificial," do you? hurt is never artificial, especially if you are feeling it. I guess the question would be is the hurt rooted in something tangible, and what is tangible varies from person to person.

I think alot of people are missing the point here. Laws are written to conform and apply to the social norms and mores of any given society. In India it is illegal to kill and or consume cows, they are sacred. That is the belief system of that society. In the middle east, women are viewed as second class citizens, or better put, according their belief system are treated differently than they are here (what is considered second class is debatable depending on what you believe).

In the USA, hunting, in most jurisdictions is legal, eating cows is legal, women walking around with their hair uncovered is legal, fighting dogs is not legal. Vick knew that this practice was illegal, he participated in this illegal practice knowingly and with full consent. Also, he admitted to actually killing dogs. He got caught, admitted guilt and was punished according to federal sentencing guidelines.

Dogs, are domesticated animals (pets, along with other animals) which means they are welcomed and treated as part of peoples families, they are given certain human characteristics in regards to how they are treated, such as, dog salons, dog sweaters and actual birth certificates, etc. They are considered police officers, and you will be charged with assaulting an officer (in certain jurisdictions) if you should kick and or harm one while it is on duty, we all are aware of these things. Now we should question the whole legal process, the good standing and social equity that dogs have enjoyed and earned for thousands of years because Vick got sentenced to 23 months, which is middle of the rode according to what he could have got. Hilarious. In the words of the theme song to Baretta, "don't do the crime if you can't do the time".

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I think those of us that support Vick needs to let it go. Vick is going to jail because he is stupid. If it wasn't dog fighting it would been something else. Let him serve his time and get on with his life. I am sad seeing someone from my community going to prison but he did it to himself. This post is my personal closure.

Peace