Official CBA Thread

[Cardot]

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The steroid era ensured this would never happen at my house. Every year I try to get into CFB though, but living in Vegas UNLV doesn't offer much to root for.

CFB is a great alternative....until one remembers the cupcake schedules and ofcourse the BCS.

[N51_rob]

CFB is a great alternative....until one remembers the cupcake schedules and ofcourse the BCS.

CFB is a great alternative when two good teams play. The majority of CFB games bore me and are of little interest. Ball St vs Akron...no thanks.

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[BlueNGold]

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Yea, I picked a great time to become a baseball fan.

Slowly but surely I'm embracing this as well. The Show has been the main reason.

I'm scared. I'm not supposed to be a baseball fan.

[Sportsforever]

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CFB is a great alternative when two good teams play. The majority of CFB games bore me and are of little interest. Ball St vs Akron...no thanks.

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While true, it's hard to get excited about Detroit/Cleveland for example. Of the 16 NFL games on a given weekend, I'd say maybe 3 or 4 really get my attention.

[mestevo]

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Fantasy Football, and being fans of players and not just teams (Calvin Johnson, Peyton Hillis, Scott Fujita in your two examples) make otherwise boring games more meaningful for me. The maturation of Stafford I am interested in watching too.

Rooting against Mangini was also fun as well, since some obnoxious Browns fans on another forum swore Holmgren was right for retaining him, signing Delhomme, etc... when all of the above were completely awful, both at the time and in hindsight.

In the end, we all watch for a variety of reasons, if what has happened so far is all it takes for you to plan on watching alternatives then how much of a fan were you really to begin with?

[wang_chi7]

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The steroid era ensured this would never happen at my house.

And yet you watch professional football?

[mestevo]

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And yet you watch professional football?

Yes, the commissioner doesn't require congressional intervention to decide to get around to stopping things that hurt the sport.

The NFL is reportedly seeking to add HGH testing to the new CBA.

[wwharton]

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Yes, the commissioner doesn't require congressional intervention to decide to get around to stopping things that hurt the sport.

The NFL is reportedly seeking to add HGH testing to the new CBA.

Might as well call it personal preference, lol. This is just coming up with something in your head to explain your decision.

The MLB commissioner didn't require congressional intervention either. That's the thing about congress... they do what they want. The MLB seemed pretty much fine with the game as it was, roided up and all (chicks dig the long ball). One may say pretty much just like the NFL. If we repeated the string of events that got us to this point and replaced the MLB with the NFL, the results would probably be about the same. And my guess is PEDs have done more damage to football players in one way or another than baseball players, based only on the nature of the sport.

Take your blinders off, man... or at least just say you don't like baseball. Considering all the crap athletes put in their bodies these days (with the average person having no idea the difference between what's allowed and what's not on these lists), the only REAL reason to be mad at players who took steroids would be bc they're illegal. And there's definitely no way anyone can say NFL players don't do anything illegal.

[mestevo]

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oh they're not blinders, it's 100% personal preference. I became interested in baseball during some of the home run races at the height of what soon after became known as the steroid era. As a result I have no interest in a sport that still has that same commissioner that had to be brought in front of congress before making changes to crack down on blatant cheating.

I am sure some would try and say what Goodell has done is just as bad for football, those are the same people that probably think they are just trying to line their pockets and not actually do anything about player safety, those same people would probably then argue that Harrison's hit on Massaquoi was legal (ignoring the pictures of Harrison airborne, having launched through the guy).

So yeah, it's 100% personal preference, I'd watch Soccer and Bowling before I'd ever get into Baseball.

[MrNFL_FanIQ]

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CFB is a great alternative when two good teams play. The majority of CFB games bore me and are of little interest. Ball St vs Akron...no thanks.

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I can't take any of the games in CFB seriously knowing that their "champion" is determined by biased "voters" and a crooked formula of nonsense math.

[wwharton]

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oh they're not blinders, it's 100% personal preference. I became interested in baseball during some of the home run races at the height of what soon after became known as the steroid era. As a result I have no interest in a sport that still has that same commissioner that had to be brought in front of congress before making changes to crack down on blatant cheating.

I am sure some would try and say what Goodell has done is just as bad for football, those are the same people that probably think they are just trying to line their pockets and not actually do anything about player safety, those same people would probably then argue that Harrison's hit on Massaquoi was legal (ignoring the pictures of Harrison airborne, having launched through the guy).

So yeah, it's 100% personal preference, I'd watch Soccer and Bowling before I'd ever get into Baseball.

That makes no sense, besides the "100% personal preference" part.

Personally, sports are my #1 form of entertainment. I've got no axe to grind with Goodell or Selig. But I find it hard to criticize one sport and praise another around an issue that's clearly run rampant in both. And if that issue is using steroids, it makes even less sense to me when baseball is "bad guy" in the scenario.

All professional (and olympic since many still aren't professional) athletes want to do anything allowed to get an edge on their opponent. When it comes to putting things in their bodies, different morals and fear of health concerns separate the individuals. Feel free to blast cheaters to the high heavens, but steroids was not frowned upon in baseball during the "steroid era" and really aren't frowned upon in football now. And really, it's just another PED that only differs from the PEDs athletes of all sports still use because it's illegal. Like I said, if your issue with the league is allowing so much illegal activity then you should have a big problem with the NFL too.

[Cardot]

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While true, it's hard to get excited about Detroit/Cleveland for example. Of the 16 NFL games on a given weekend, I'd say maybe 3 or 4 really get my attention.

No doubt, there are plenty of snoozers. None the less, every game is a matchup of top 32 teams. And every week you likely have at least a few matchups of top 10 teams. Can't usually say that about the NCAA...especially in the early part of the season.

[Bondgirl0072]

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Do you guys think that there will be an NFL season this year or not?

[mestevo]

Do you guys think that there will be an NFL season this year or not?

There's too much money involved to not play football. The amount of leverage via litigation is still bring determined and then negotiations will resume.

I'd say we'll see movement after the 4/6 hearing, but now the players are trying to get Judge Doty to lift the lockout as part of the TV lockout insurance case damages... and that isn't until May.

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[RGiles36]

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Do you guys think that there will be an NFL season this year or not?

I'm certain that we are. I just wish it would happen sooner than later. The suspense is unnerving.

I don't mean to go out way in left field, but I just can't see there not being football next year. With the economy and jobs still somewhat depressing to talk about, sports (and football in particular) are many American's release. You take that away in lieu of all the other issues we're facing as a country, and I think that it'll be really selfish of both the NFL & NFLPA. They gotta work it out...