2013 NFL Draft Discussion

[wco81]

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Kiper and that other ESPN draft guy were all over Sportscenter claiming Teo solidified his place in the first round with his pro day workout.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Was it only 2? I had thought it was at least 3 that had been tipped, but that's just what I thought I remembered from the season.

He's going to need a great defensive line in front of him to be a successful first round pick in the NFL. If he lands with a team that has an average defensive line, it'll be the National Championship Game all over again, every week.

They only showed 2 but I'm sure you're right.

And I agree about him needing some gap-eaters on the line in front of him for him to have any sort of sustained success.

Plus, he doesn't strike me as an every down LB. I can't see him being out there on 3rd downs.

[TracerBullet]

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Because he played at Notre Dame.

And this is ESPN we're talking about.

[Cyros]

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Why was a LB on QB camp?

I feel like Marcus Lattimore or one more non-qb is scheduled to appear.

[MooseBoyJ]

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Tyrann Mathieu is now a projected late 2nd/ early 3rd round pick and quoting Deon he is the best DB in this draft. Thoughts?

[rangerrick012]

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And this is ESPN we're talking about.

Yeah but come on, it'd be foolish to ignore the off field stuff with Teo and act like people don't wanna see him in that format. He's arguably the most recognizable and intriguing name in this draft now.

[TracerBullet]

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Yeah but come on, it'd be foolish to ignore the off field stuff with Teo and act like people don't wanna see him in that format. He's arguably the most recognizable and intriguing name in this draft now.

I agree with you there, and ESPN obviously knows that too. Though they probably could have come up with a different name for the segment.

[bigbob]

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Tyrann Mathieu is now a projected late 2nd/ early 3rd round pick and quoting Deon he is the best DB in this draft. Thoughts?

I don't know if his athleticism alone is going to be enough to match up against players like (both) Johnsons, Bryant, Jones, Fitz, Marshall etc. I can see him playing in certain situations, just not every down.

[kingkilla56]

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IDK who I want anymore. I think I just want Alec Ogeltree and lets pray he can be a legitimate star for us. We actually need to revolutionize the entire defense. I also dont trust this organization to draft anybody in the secondary. Our track record in that aspect has been abysmal.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Tyrann Mathieu is now a projected late 2nd/ early 3rd round pick and quoting Deon he is the best DB in this draft. Thoughts?

He's a nickel corner IMO. He'll cover slot guys.

I'm not sure why Deion is stumping so hard for this kid. He is nowhere near the best DB in this draft.

He has value because he's a good return guy.

But he's not in the same class as some of the DBs ahead of him.

[TripleCrown9]

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Yeah Mathieu isn't the best DB in the draft. And honestly, I don't think he'll be that good of a return guy in the pros. I hope he gets drafted to the right team and flourishes, but the hype certainly needs to simmer down a little.

[Hooe]

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Disclaimer - I know Combine / Pro Day numbers are by no means everything. Not even close. That said, it can be a reasonable indicator of athleticism, which is one of many valued commodities at the NFL level.

That disclaimer out of the way: (the following is shamelessly stolen from my brother's Facebook and augmented), take your pick between these two athletes:

Linebacker A: 6-1, 243lbs, 4.70 40-yd dash, 33" vertical jump, 9-5 broad jump, DNP in 225 lb bench press

Linebacker B: 6-2, 243lbs, 4.57 40-yd dash, 37" vertical jump, 10-5 broad jump, 28 bench press reps of 225 lbs

Spoiler

Linebacker A is Manti Te'o of Notre Dame, who is looking like a first- or second-round draft choice. Linebacker B is LaRoy Reynolds of Virginia, who will be lucky to be drafted but should undoubtedly get a look as a priority rookie free agent with a 4-3 front team after his strong pro day (he wasn't invited to the NFL Combine).

My point with all this is that I'm in the Te'o doubter camp with most everyone else on this board, it appears.

[ABR173rd]

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Tyrann Mathieu is now a projected late 2nd/ early 3rd round pick and quoting Deon he is the best DB in this draft. Thoughts?

I think as far as potential goes if someone grabs him mid to late third round he's a value pick. Due to some of the hype surrounding him I think there may be some teams pressured to reach for him in the late second. Mike Tomlin seemed to spend a lot of time talking to him at LSU's Pro Day.

I'm hoping the Saints don't end up singing Porter or Nhamdi and grab him in the 3rd if he's still around. I certainly wouldn't be upset.

[MachineGunLotto]

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who do you guys have going first between Tavon Austin or Cordarrell Patterson? I think Austin would go first.

[bigbob]

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who do you guys have going first between Tavon Austin or Cordarrell Patterson? I think Austin would go first.

It depends on what type of receiver a team is looking for. If you're looking for someone to run outside of the numbers for the deep balls, you want Patterson. If you're looking for an explosive guy underneath, Austin's your guy.

They can both stretch the field, but match-up wise, Patterson is who you want for the more physical corners/safeties.