Xbox One

[rspencer86]

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Does anyone see the dedicated servers thing being a big advantage to Microsoft? I don't know enough about the technical stuff that makes online games work to know if that is a key point or not.

[SinisterAlex]

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That offer isn't stopping. Starting next month it's a permanent perk of being a Live Subscriber

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I thought it was only until the launch of the Xbox One in November? Could have sworn that's what was said at the E3 briefing.

[VTPack919]

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I thought it was only until the launch of the Xbox One in November? Could have sworn that's what was said at the E3 briefing.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. The article I read it from was e3 information.

[jacory12]

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Does anyone see the dedicated servers thing being a big advantage to Microsoft? I don't know enough about the technical stuff that makes online games work to know if that is a key point or not.

One positive thing I've heard is that there will no longer be host advantages

[bigfnjoe96]

You guys are right. I was going by what was said @ E3 by MS & not by what was clarified by the gaming press.

Here's hoping MS continues that perk to Gold Members after the XB-1 launch

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[mestevo]

It would be silly to stop it and decline to compete with the PSN+'s easiest selling point. I expect we'll hear more closer to launch.

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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Other than launch arcade titles what will be available for them to offer for free?

[VTPack919]

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Other than launch arcade titles what will be available for them to offer for free?

Good point.

[GlennN]

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And when a lot of people take issue and question Xbox, the only reaction is "That's just the way it's going to be, go play your 360. There is a vision that you can't see in which Microsoft is pursuing" . Yet, I've not heard what this magical vision is with DRM, Online Connecting, Kinect and how that benefits gamers, or anyone for that matter ?

Or, more precisely, their snide remark (as it relates to the always online requirement) as quoted by Gamespot is, "Fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360," Mattrick said. "If you have zero access to the Internet, that is an offline device."

I am not sure it is the best strategy to be an obnoxious jerk when coming out with a new product. I am more than slightly leaning toward the PS4 next generation for many reasons.

[EnigmaNemesis]

MS loves big companies. Also, it gives them more control in general.

Also, it could be indirectly related to the piracy thing (which ties in to DRM) since indie devs have been proving for years that good games sell, disproving big publishers main talking points in forcing DRM. That's more on the plausible conspiracy theory side than actual fact though (in relation to the XBone.)

Which adds to what someone earlier in this thread said, DRM will benefit and make these large companies monopolize the game publishing and developing front, since consumers will be less inclined to take a risk on a smaller known game or franchise due to the lack of being able to easily resell it.

If you seriously look at it, it wreaks of big 4 takeover, not unlike antitrust issues MSFT faced in the past. That is why MSFT/EA/Activision/Ubisoft are the main culprits just salivating with policies ready to release.

You don't make that crap up overnight since E3. This has been in the world a long long time.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Does anyone see the dedicated servers thing being a big advantage to Microsoft? I don't know enough about the technical stuff that makes online games work to know if that is a key point or not.

Sony always had dedicated servers. EA and a couple others hosted their own on both PSN and Live (EA almost didn't sign on to the original XBox unless MSFT allowed them to host their own). Live with the 360 was predominately peer 2 peer.

So there is no advantage of one over the other with this. It will definitely help with the host advantage.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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I'm still confused here, I kept my order for the PS4 and cancelled my Xbox one pre-order the day.. Something keep telling me that the One is going to be big this go around. I just pre-ordered again.

[aholbert32]

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I'm still confused here, I kept my order for the PS4 and cancelled my Xbox one pre-order the day.. Something keep telling me that the One is going to be big this go around. I just pre-ordered again.

LOL. Here we go again. Glad to see you are bringing your indecisiveness over to the new consoles.

[kingkilla56]

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Which adds to what someone earlier in this thread said, DRM will benefit and make these large companies monopolize the game publishing and developing front, since consumers will be less inclined to take a risk on a smaller known game or franchise due to the lack of being able to easily resell it.

If you seriously look at it, it wreaks of big 4 takeover, not unlike antitrust issues MSFT faced in the past. That is why MSFT/EA/Activision/Ubisoft are the main culprits just salivating with policies ready to release.

You don't make that crap up overnight since E3. This has been in the world a long long time.

I said a while back that if indeed the big publishers convinced Xbox to go this route (at the time presuming PS4 was going in similar direction) it was a brilliant business move on their part. Small dev studios and publishers would basically be screwed fighting a losing battle in a market where gamers would not be taking risks and settling for IPs and publishers they have been groomed to adore.

[EnigmaNemesis]

I said a while back that if indeed the big publishers convinced Xbox to go this route (at the time presuming PS4 was going in similar direction) it was a brilliant business move on their part. Small dev studios and publishers would basically be screwed fighting a losing battle in a market where gamers would not be taking risks and settling for IPs and publishers they have been groomed to adore.

You betcha. Though I strongly believe MSFT has a much larger hand in this, than just the publishers.

1) Their antitrust past.

2) Publishers didn't tell them to have 24 hour checks, Kinect always connected, and DRM.

3) You don't see Sony adopting these same policies on their first party or console itself (which justifies #2).

People are not seeing the much larger repercussion. And definitely underestimate the power of the gamer dollar.