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  • LionsFanNJ
    All Star
    • Apr 2006
    • 9464

    #556
    Re: Fringe anyone?

    I don't know if there's an overarching mystery anymore as it is that each season will have a singular problem with lingering things from previous seasons a la Joss Whedon shows. In general his shows have a singular "big bad" for one season (See: Angelus, Glory, Holtz, The Master, etc), but the overall characterization and mythology extends over the course of the series. I really see the show doing something along those lines.
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    • slickdtc
      Grayscale
      • Aug 2004
      • 17125

      #557
      Re: Fringe anyone?

      Ironic that Olivia started this season off having just been in the alternate universe and we thought there would be a lot of "her being there, everyone else being here"... and now we're back at this same spot for season #3.
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      And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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      • JayBee74
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 22989

        #558
        Re: Fringe anyone?

        The last two shows have been the best of the season for me. Did anyone catch the Red Lantern/Red Arrow comic book on the wall and the picture of an old JFK?

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        • JohnnytheSkin
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 5914

          #559
          Re: Fringe anyone?

          Finally watched the finale the other night off the DVR with the wife...AWESOME!!

          I called the Olivia swap, but man, it was still surprising. Should be a great third season.
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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #560
            Re: Fringe anyone?

            I'm somewhat claustrophobic. I feel sorry for Olivia Prime.

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            • p_rushing
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 14514

              #561
              Re: Fringe anyone?

              Originally posted by JayBee74
              I'm somewhat claustrophobic. I feel sorry for Olivia Prime.
              The room wouldn't bother most people and I'm sure you would forget about your claustrophobic thoughts once the lights went out. She was being kept in complete darkness, that is about the worst you can do to someone.


              My guess, she uses her powers to crossover. I don't think Alt. Walter knows about those tests and powers she has or at least not all of them.

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              • MassNole
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 18848

                #562
                Re: Fringe anyone?

                The thing we know Walter had that viewing device to see that dimension and Walternate mentioned knowing of technology on the other side they didn't have which would lead me to believe they had/have one too and know about those powers.

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                • Burns11
                  Greatness Has Arrived
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7406

                  #563
                  Re: Fringe anyone?

                  Maybe Olivia will unlock the ability to exist in both universes at will, like she did before spontaneously jumping between her and the alt Olivia at the end of season 1. That would make a convenient way to keep tabs on both universes.

                  One plot hole that bugs me though, they needed Olivia to open a crack between the universes and were using the device as a doorstop, but alt Olivia couldn't open that crack because she wasn't exposed to cortexiphan.
                  Last edited by Burns11; 05-25-2010, 10:19 AM.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #564
                    Re: Fringe anyone?

                    Originally posted by Burns11
                    Maybe Olivia will unlock the ability to exist in both universes at will, like she did before spontaneously jumping between her and the alt Olivia at the end of season 1. That would make a convenient way to keep tabs on both universes.

                    One plot hole that bugs me though, they needed Olivia to open a crack between the universes and were using the device as a doorstop, but alt Olivia couldn't open that crack because she wasn't exposed to cortexiphan.
                    She didn't have to. The way I understood it, Walter Bell decided to sacrifice himself rather than worry about all that.

                    But, I have to look at this again because I hadn't thought about it until now. I find it hard to believe they would overlook something this important, though.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                    • MassNole
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 18848

                      #565
                      Re: Fringe anyone?

                      IIRC they originally needed an energy source to keep the gate open, but that was before they went to Alt-Harvard and got the machine Walternate never perfected. Bell was then the energy source who sacrificed himself. When Walter originally crossed over in the late 80's he didn't have Olivia to do so, he wouldn't need her powers now either it would seem.

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #566
                        Re: Fringe anyone?

                        Originally posted by MassNole
                        IIRC they originally needed an energy source to keep the gate open, but that was before they went to Alt-Harvard and got the machine Walternate never perfected. Bell was then the energy source who sacrificed himself. When Walter originally crossed over in the late 80's he didn't have Olivia to do so, he wouldn't need her powers now either it would seem.
                        There it is. Thanks.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #567
                          Re: Fringe anyone?

                          Here's the alternate universe comic in the season finale. DC Comics provided it for Fringe.

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                          • MassNole
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 18848

                            #568
                            Re: Fringe anyone?

                            Wow if comics are only 15 cents I wonder what other stuff costs on the other side?

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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #569
                              Re: Fringe anyone?

                              It would have been cooler if the art matched what has to be a 1940/50s comic considering the price tag.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • Burns11
                                Greatness Has Arrived
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7406

                                #570
                                Re: Fringe anyone?

                                Originally posted by YankeePride
                                She didn't have to. The way I understood it, Walter Bell decided to sacrifice himself rather than worry about all that.

                                But, I have to look at this again because I hadn't thought about it until now. I find it hard to believe they would overlook something this important, though.
                                Originally posted by MassNole
                                IIRC they originally needed an energy source to keep the gate open, but that was before they went to Alt-Harvard and got the machine Walternate never perfected. Bell was then the energy source who sacrificed himself. When Walter originally crossed over in the late 80's he didn't have Olivia to do so, he wouldn't need her powers now either it would seem.
                                Way I remember it, they were sitting in KFC wondering how to get back. It was asked why Olivia just couldn't open a door back, and it was explained without the others she wouldn't be powerful enough to open anything more than a crack. Then someone said what they needed was a doorstop, then suggested the device (don't remember what they called it some sort of particle accelerator) but didn't know where to find one, then Bell said he knew where. Then they went to Harvard. I believe it was at the Bell sacrifice scene that they said the device was again a doorstop but Olivia wasn't strong enough to keep the doorstop open, that's when Bell said he was sacrificing himself to keep it open (and seemed to know from the beginning he was doing this).

                                Anyway, all of the covers are here

                                Edit: The art is just wrong for the time period.

                                Last edited by Burns11; 05-25-2010, 05:03 PM.

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