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Yea, same thing I was thinking. He is obviously going to be important in the storyline - especially with how they closed on him at the end of the episode.
What makes the most sense is him being from our universe. We shall see.
I thought this was a great season opener. Fringe is a great show to me. I love the idea of an alternate universe and Olivia now thinking she is the alternate version. There's a few ways they can take this now."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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They surprised me with this opener. I thought they would spend most of the time showing Alt-Liv trying to fit in with Peter and Walter in "our" universe. It never dawned on me that they would try and turn our Olivia into a clone of theirs.
Personally I would rather have every episode be about the big picture story arc now. The characters can still be developed through those episodes. I don't need to see any stand alone monster of the weeks episodes anymore, but I know that there will still be some of those though.
it seems that Anna Torv is going to get a chance to do the heavy lifting this season. She was somewhat relegated to a secondary role during the last half of last season.
For me, Fringe, Leverage, and Rubicon are my Holy Trinity of currently running shows.Jordan Mychal Lemos
@crypticjordan
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Planted by whom, Massive Dynamic? For what purpose? And she just happened to have stumbled upon the one taxi that had a plant?
I think he's going to be the one to get Olivia to remember who she really is, but I think his motivation is a little more normal, he just felt a connection and believed Olivia and recognized something in her. I wonder if maybe he was an early test subject for the memory implants? Remember he said he was in a bad way and his wife recognized the man he really was on the inside? Or something to that effect. My original thought was that he was a drug addict or a criminal, but him sticking around and watching made me suspect something else.Comment
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Honestly, my solution would have been to not include him at all. What about the guy from the bowling alley? I was seriously expecting her to visit him. Then again, I guess that would have killed the Olivia turn arc.
Either way, there's always a better way than magic and good luck."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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My theory about him being a test subject is just as bad, I guess, just happening upon a test subject.
I'm just not quite sure why he'd stick around. Maybe it's just a fringe division thing, there seems to be an Orwellian overtone to the alt-universe and maybe the Fringe Division over there does a lot of shady stuff to good people. It wouldn't be so coincidental if just about everybody knows someone who has been screwed over by a quasi-Gestapo Fringe Division. I could see someone in that sort of situation helping her by pulling the tracking device, sticking around after she released him and (presumably) trying to get her to remember.Comment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Alt-Liv is ruthless, I hate her, and want her to die.-Translation: she's an excellent character and Anna Torv is bringing it. She made Newton seem like the more reasonable one in their cutthroat little duo.Jordan Mychal Lemos
@crypticjordan
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Early on Olivia was flipping seamlessly between dimensions (Road Not Taken). Next episode we have Olivia taking an elevator to the other side (There's More Than One of Everything). The next episode we have Olivia coming back violently and also suffering from some sort of dimension travel sickness that Nina also suffered from. You have the guy from season 2 using the Walter device to create a dimensional gate, Walter and Peter using the same device and saying that the process had to be done over water to absorb a large energy release. You have Walternate coming through dimensions to get Peter and then taking him back without problems. You then have Olivia and Walter going through without incident because of Olivia's power combined with other cortexiphanians. Then you have Bell and Walter wedging a crack created by Olivia (that wasn't really created by Olivia because it was Alt-Olivia at the scene) and a supposed build up of energy from going back and forth necessitating Bell sacrificing himself to get Walter, Peter and Alt-Olivia back. Then you have the unseen dimension hopping by the shape shifters, etc. Now suddenly Walternate needs Olivia to "take the fight to the other side" despite himself going back and forth as well as sending all these shape shifters through?
To me, it seems we have half a dozen different mechanics by which the dimension travel works.Comment
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Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that he isn't telling the whole story."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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The title of this weeks episode was pure genius, and then followed up with an episode that lived up to the title's premise. Philip K. Dick would have been very proud.Jordan Mychal Lemos
@crypticjordan
Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.
Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.Comment
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