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  • Chrisksaint
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    • Apr 2010
    • 19127

    #1126
    I don't get the fascination people have with comparing the movies, one was slightly more humorous and the culmination of several movies while Man Of Steel was darker and the beginning.
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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9178

      #1127
      Re: Superman Man Of Steel

      I don't get people's obsession with city destruction in a movie about a dude who can fly....

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      • jfsolo
        Live Action, please?
        • May 2003
        • 12965

        #1128
        Re: Superman Man Of Steel

        Originally posted by Chrisksaint
        I don't get the fascination people have with comparing the movies, one was slightly more humorous and the culmination of several movies while Man Of Steel was darker and the beginning.
        A certain segment of our population has adopted comparison trolling as their national pastime. Movies, games, consoles, books, music, must be build up or torn down by an immediate juxtaposition with something similar.
        Jordan Mychal Lemos
        @crypticjordan

        Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

        Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #1129
          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
          I don't get people's obsession with city destruction in a movie about a dude who can fly....
          You lost me here, DJ.

          Why does accepting a flying person also mean I have to accept good flying person damaging things?

          I don't see the correlation.


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          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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          • DonkeyJote
            All Star
            • Jul 2003
            • 9178

            #1130
            Originally posted by CMH
            You lost me here, DJ.

            Why does accepting a flying person also mean I have to accept good flying person damaging things?

            I don't see the correlation.


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            It's suspension of disbelief. It's looking for something to criticize to me. It's a fantasy world, so I think complaining that he did property damage in a fake city that had already been decimated by a giant gravity gun while fighting the superpowered leader of an extraterrestrial force that had just been sent to a different dimension is beyond nitpicking.

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            • daflyboys
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 18238

              #1131
              Re: Superman Man Of Steel

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              A certain segment of our population has adopted comparison trolling as their national pastime. Movies, games, consoles, books, music, must be build up or torn down by an immediate juxtaposition with something similar.
              I read a comparable comment on another site, but he worded it better.

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              • jfsolo
                Live Action, please?
                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #1132
                Re: Superman Man Of Steel

                Originally posted by daflyboys
                I read a comparable comment on another site, but he worded it better.
                Touché, touché
                Jordan Mychal Lemos
                @crypticjordan

                Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                • DueceDiggla
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 4915

                  #1133
                  Re: Superman Man Of Steel

                  Wasn't a big fan. Zod appeared way too early in the movie and he didn't have that villain feel that most Superhero movie villains have. Bane, Joker, etc.....Him and his minions used guns and space ships, yet they seemed to have had the same powers as Superman. I would've liked to see him mess with mankind on a more personal level like Zod did in the old movies.

                  The space ships reminded me way too much of StarShip Troopers. I wasn't feeling that at all.

                  The final scene between Zod and Superman takes place in the middle of the city and the only people in the area were Lois Lane and her coworkers. No military, police, fireman,etc......

                  And a huge flaw was how Colonel Nathan Hardy (Christopher Meloni) is first at the spaceship site when Lois Lane first appears, then he is flying a helicopter later on in the movie shooting at Superman and Zod's minions and then he is flying the plane into the spaceship. This guy was in every military scene.

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                  • Leon
                    An Old Trafford
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 4981

                    #1134
                    Re: Superman Man Of Steel

                    Originally posted by DueceDiggla
                    And a huge flaw was how Colonel Nathan Hardy (Christopher Meloni) is first at the spaceship site when Lois Lane first appears, then he is flying a helicopter later on in the movie shooting at Superman and Zod's minions and then he is flying the plane into the spaceship. This guy was in every military scene.
                    How is that a flaw? It's not like he just magically showed up for each of those scenes.
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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #1135
                      Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                      It's suspension of disbelief. It's looking for something to criticize to me. It's a fantasy world, so I think complaining that he did property damage in a fake city that had already been decimated by a giant gravity gun while fighting the superpowered leader of an extraterrestrial force that had just been sent to a different dimension is beyond nitpicking.

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                      Still doesn't correlate.

                      What does suspension of belief have to do with destroying cities?

                      Suspension of belief is accepting a man can fly.

                      Suspension of belief is not seeing cities destroyed. That stuff happens all the time.

                      I think we are talking about two different things.


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                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • JayBee74
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22989

                        #1136
                        Re: Superman Man Of Steel

                        Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                        I don't get people's obsession with city destruction in a movie about a dude who can fly....
                        I'm not obsessed (I know you aren't talking specifically about me), but the whole thing got redundant. It has to be there, but not that much.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #1137
                          It's clear to me that there are two groups of movie viewers in regards to realism.

                          And one group doesn't understand why the group I'm in can say something is unrealistic in a Science fiction movie.

                          I get why they say this. It's fake. Therefore how can you complain when something else is fake in a fake movie.

                          But that's not the point. And I'm making this point again knowing it doesn't matter. All stories have rules. They just do. It's how you allow yourself to accept the fake in it.

                          By saying there are no rules, you're saying you will accept watching a Harry Potter movie that has Superman suddenly appear and save the day.

                          Regardless of how ridiculous a concept that is, no matter how fake Harry Potter is, it's still unrealistic to have Superman suddenly appear in his story.

                          Anyway, I never felt that Man Of Steel had unrealistic moments. I simply didn't like that Superman was willing to destroy a city and threaten the lives of people while claiming to be a savior of those people.

                          It's not unrealistic. It just doesn't make a lot of sense, is all I'm saying.


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                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • JayBee74
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 22989

                            #1138
                            Re: Superman Man Of Steel

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            Anyway, I never felt that Man Of Steel had unrealistic moments. I simply didn't like that Superman was willing to destroy a city and threaten the lives of people while claiming to be a savior of those people.

                            It's not unrealistic. It just doesn't make a lot of sense, is all I'm saying.
                            It's a logical argument. It's certainly not nitpicking, but did he have a choice where the battle took place? Did he have a choice not to fight?

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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #1139
                              Originally posted by JayBee74
                              It's a logical argument. It's certainly not nitpicking, but did he have a choice where the battle took place? Did he have a choice not to fight?
                              No. He didn't have a choice. He had to fight.

                              But he had a choice not to run his enemy's face through buildings.


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                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #1140
                                In fact, I think the story becomes incredibly more compelling if Superman is fighting enemies while grasping the above concept that he doesn't want to cause harm to humans or their homes.

                                I hate to do it but its one thing Spider-Man gets right. He will stop fighting to save others. He considers the impact his fights might have on his city.

                                If Superman were fighting Zod and refusing to "hurt" him by throwing him threw buildings or blowing up gas stations, I would be on the edge of my seat.

                                Here's Zod willing to do whatever it takes to defeat Superman, and here's Superman trying to stop a comparably strong enemy using less because he will not use buildings to damage his foe.

                                That's a real conflict.

                                Instead we got superhero fight porn.


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                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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