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  • Cowboy008
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    • Mar 2012
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    #5656
    Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

    For those that have the ks8500 how does the tv look in game mode? Does the graphics take a big hit?

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    • ODogg
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      • Feb 2003
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      #5657
      Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

      Originally posted by RIFRIG
      The B6 was way more expensive & not significantly better for the extra cash.
      The Samsung does a great job with movies in my opinion but the much talked about game mode doesn't perform anywhere near as good as I thought it was going to.
      HDR is only apparent with the backlight maxed out but with this comes excessive light bloom on neons & whites with an unrealistic colour range.
      If you reduce backlight it improves alot but HDR is starting to get lost.
      Actually, game mode isn't about "performing" though. It simply removes all processing and allows for lower lag when you game. The only performance issue in game mode is if you're getting excessive lag. And if that is the case your set is defective and you need to return it.

      HDR doesn't have anything to do with game mode.
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      • ODogg
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        • Feb 2003
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        #5658
        Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

        Originally posted by Cowboy008
        For those that have the ks8500 how does the tv look in game mode? Does the graphics take a big hit?
        Again, game mode isn't about graphics or some special mode the TV does, it just removes all of the processing and allows for the lowest lag input.

        So no, the graphics don't take any hit whatsoever, they look great and the set performs fantastic in game mode, low lag is what game mode is supposed to deliver and that's what it does.
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        • Cowboy008
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          • Mar 2012
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          #5659
          Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by ODogg
          Again, game mode isn't about graphics or some special mode the TV does, it just removes all of the processing and allows for the lowest lag input.

          So no, the graphics don't take any hit whatsoever, they look great and the set performs fantastic in game mode, low lag is what game mode is supposed to deliver and that's what it does.
          Only reason I asked is because I had a Vizio tv a while ago and it seemed when I put it in game mode the graphics didn't look as great.

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          • LowerWolf
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            • Jun 2006
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            #5660
            Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

            I think it depends on the TV. On my LG, HDR Game mode is nowhere near as impressive as HDR Standard. I'm not sure if it's meant to be like that or a bug in the firmware update.

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            • ODogg
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              • Feb 2003
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              #5661
              Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

              Well of course looks are subjective. But game mode just turns off processing. So I suppose game mode could "look worse" but if that is the case that is more the person preferring processing and how it makes the picture look than the game mode degrading anything.

              Unless of course, as you said, there is a bug or something physically wrong with the set. But in general game mode shouldn't degrade the actual graphics, it just removes the processing modes.
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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42515

                #5662
                Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                Originally posted by ODogg
                Well of course looks are subjective. But game mode just turns off processing. So I suppose game mode could "look worse" but if that is the case that is more the person preferring processing and how it makes the picture look than the game mode degrading anything.

                Unless of course, as you said, there is a bug or something physically wrong with the set. But in general game mode shouldn't degrade the actual graphics, it just removes the processing modes.
                Well, my Game Mode doesn't allow me to adjust my 10-point white balance. I don't know if that's considered post-processing (I call it calibration tools), but when calibration tools are removed that means I'm not getting the most accurate picture I possibly can. Besides, my Game Mode forces me into the Standard picture preset, which actually does have different luminance than that of Movie, etc.

                I'm just saying we can't generalize that Game Mode doesn't do anything.
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                • ODogg
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #5663
                  Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Well, my Game Mode doesn't allow me to adjust my 10-point white balance. I don't know if that's considered post-processing (I call it calibration tools), but when calibration tools are removed that means I'm not getting the most accurate picture I possibly can. Besides, my Game Mode forces me into the Standard picture preset, which actually does have different luminance than that of Movie, etc.

                  I'm just saying we can't generalize that Game Mode doesn't do anything.
                  I think you may want to try adjusting the white balance prior to activating game mode. See if that works. As for movie mode and other stuff like it, yeah game mode disables all that so it's just a straight picture with limited processing.
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                  • LowerWolf
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                    • Jun 2006
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                    #5664
                    Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                    At least on my LG, it's like the backlight gets turned down to 50 on Game mode even though I've got it at 100. I haven't been able to get an answer yet from LG whether that's by design or a bug.

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                    • Artman22
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 4984

                      #5665
                      Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      It's actually one of the best, if not the best, tv for gaming. If anything it's better for gaming than movies, there are many other sets such as the LG B6 better for movies than the KS8000.


                      I personally think the biggest drawback with the ks8000/8500 is the motion response times. It's not bad, but isn't good either. Everything else is great..


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                      • Artman22
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                        • Jul 2006
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                        #5666
                        Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                        Another issue with the ks8000/8500 is the backlight not automatically maxing out once you game in HDR. It works fine outside of game mode when you watch any HDR content. When In game mode you still have to manually go in and change the backlight and other settings you use during HDR gaming. People have been asking Samsung for months to fix it, but at this point I don't know if they will.


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                        • ODogg
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #5667
                          Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                          Originally posted by Artman22
                          Another issue with the ks8000/8500 is the backlight not automatically maxing out once you game in HDR. It works fine outside of game mode when you watch any HDR content. When In game mode you still have to manually go in and change the backlight and other settings you use during HDR gaming. People have been asking Samsung for months to fix it, but at this point I don't know if they will.


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                          I never have any issue with that since my PS4 is the only one on that input and it stays maxed.
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                          • jeremym480
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                            • Oct 2008
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                            #5668
                            Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                            I got the ks8000 for gaming and don't really have any complaints with its motion response times. I did end up turning HDR off though because even though it looked really good, my PS4 screenshots would always be super dark. I tried changing some settings, but could never figure out how to get bright screenshots. With that said my games still look great without HDR, so I'm cool with it.

                            I've only watched one movie on it since I bought it six months ago and it looked great.
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                            • RockinDaMike
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #5669
                              Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                              Getting Planet Earth 2 delivered today my first 4k movie. Can't wait to test out the new set.
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                              • GAMEC0CK2002
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                                • Aug 2002
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                                #5670
                                Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                                Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                                Getting Planet Earth 2 delivered today my first 4k movie. Can't wait to test out the new set.
                                You are in for a treat. Loved the jungle episode.

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