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  • Giants4Natic
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    • Oct 2010
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    #1111
    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

    Originally posted by NC State-31 UNC-27
    I got a Samsung 59d6500 plasma on Friday. Happy with it, though it buzzes pretty loudly.
    My first 59D7000 buzzed like crazy and I had to return it via Amazon and the second was much better but still buzzed a bit.

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    • bigfnjoe96
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 11410

      #1112
      Originally posted by Blzer
      I understand that, but basically what I meant was this:

      With my LCD screen, if I lower my brightness level then I will get deeper blacks (not saying much), but the trade-off is that those blacks will really crush so that I can't discern shadow detail. I could always just raise the brightness, but then there go my "deep" blacks.

      With a good plasma screen, I can still have my brightness setting relatively higher than I would need with an LCD, and yet have much deeper blacks. Raising this brightness will allow for good shadow delineation, while I can still have inky blacks (maybe not to .0001 standards, but still very dark).
      Blzr you are correct. Lowering brightness on an LCD, to achieve deep black levels will result in crush. No matter how you set gamma. That's the nature of CCFL LCD.

      Fast Forward to LED LCD & you get better black levels. Then you have Edge-Lit LED & Full Array LED. Between these 2. You'll get Plasma like Black Levels from Full Array LED when it uses a technique called "Local Dimming"

      Right now the Best Full Array LED are Sony hx929 & Sharp/Pioneer Elite

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #1113
        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

        Originally posted by Giants4Natic
        Blz on your LCD, have you tried lowering the gamma instead of brightness? maybe this would help you get the level that suits you.
        What I have is suitable, for this television. All I was saying was that these blacks just don't get very dark, at least compared to that of a plasma. I shouldn't even try and replicate that image, so I'll play to the LCD's strengths instead.
        Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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        • Giants4Natic
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          • Oct 2010
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          #1114
          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by Blzer
          What I have is suitable, for this television. All I was saying was that these blacks just don't get very dark, at least compared to that of a plasma. I shouldn't even try and replicate that image, so I'll play to the LCD's strengths instead.
          Yea Plasmas have better black levels but like BFJ stated the higher end LCD or LED have come close to matching the Plasma black levels.

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          • davehughes14
            Pro
            • Jan 2005
            • 789

            #1115
            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

            Just bought a 60" LG Plasma and am wondering why and how vital it is to watch non HD programming in the 16:9 format and not the 4:3 format so the whole screen is filled up with picture. Will I harm my TV if I don't do this? Thanks!

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            • GAMEC0CK2002
              Stayin Alive
              • Aug 2002
              • 10384

              #1116
              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

              Originally posted by davehughes14
              Just bought a 60" LG Plasma and am wondering why and how vital it is to watch non HD programming in the 16:9 format and not the 4:3 format so the whole screen is filled up with picture. Will I harm my TV if I don't do this? Thanks!
              You really want to try and take up the entire screen with a brand new plasma. You want the phosphors to age evenly. The main thing is to make sure you lower the contrast to something in the 50-55 range....60 at the highest. That way you virtually eliminate the remote chance of burn-in from falling asleep and leaving a static image up.

              You are likely to see some image retention but that is normal and goes away very quickly.

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              • RoyalBoyle78
                Aka."Footballforever"
                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #1117
                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                My choice is still Plasma , my 50' LG Plasma is still very beautiful as it was when I bought almost 2 years ago, my gaming looks fantastic on it, I also have a LG 30' crt HDTV and that picture is still amazing, CRT produced the blacks blacks to date, and my plasma comes close to it, I'm not a big fan of LCD at all.
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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #1118
                  Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                  Just bought the Samsung PN51D7000 and I managed to get it for over $400 off thanks to Vanns.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • Giants4Natic
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2010
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                    #1119
                    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                    Originally posted by jmood88
                    Just bought the Samsung PN51D7000 and I managed to get it for over $400 off thanks to Vanns.
                    Great choice man. I had that one before trading it in for the 59 when Amazon had a great great deal

                    But when gaming, use only 16:9 and not screen fit. This allows you to enable the pixel orbiter which protects against burn in or IR

                    Playing Madden caused me to get horrible IR of the score ticker on the top left which is still there 2 weeks later and it is not going away as easy as I thought

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42515

                      #1120
                      Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                      Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                      Great choice man. I had that one before trading it in for the 59 when Amazon had a great great deal

                      But when gaming, use only 16:9 and not screen fit. This allows you to enable the pixel orbiter which protects against burn in or IR

                      Playing Madden caused me to get horrible IR of the score ticker on the top left which is still there 2 weeks later and it is not going away as easy as I thought
                      Just wondering out of curiosity (and how well it handles it), but did you do any hours of break-in slides when you first got the TV set?
                      Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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                      • GAMEC0CK2002
                        Stayin Alive
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 10384

                        #1121
                        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Just wondering out of curiosity (and how well it handles it), but did you do any hours of break-in slides when you first got the TV set?
                        Wondering the same thing as well. Also, what was your contrast setting?

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                        • jmood88
                          Sean Payton: Retribution
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 34639

                          #1122
                          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                          Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                          Great choice man. I had that one before trading it in for the 59 when Amazon had a great great deal

                          But when gaming, use only 16:9 and not screen fit. This allows you to enable the pixel orbiter which protects against burn in or IR

                          Playing Madden caused me to get horrible IR of the score ticker on the top left which is still there 2 weeks later and it is not going away as easy as I thought
                          Thanks for the tip, I'll make sure to remember that once it gets here.
                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                          • Giants4Natic
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                            • Oct 2010
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                            #1123
                            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Just wondering out of curiosity (and how well it handles it), but did you do any hours of break-in slides when you first got the TV set?
                            Yes I did, 100 hours running the slides. Very unhappy but I guess I have to continue running the orbiter until I clean it out. It is better then before but still enough to bother me

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                            • Giants4Natic
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2010
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                              #1124
                              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                              Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                              Wondering the same thing as well. Also, what was your contrast setting?
                              Believe me I ran all the break in scenarios with low contrast and light.

                              After 100 I tweaked them to my liking but IR will happen regardless if you have a still image on screen like Madden long long long score board.


                              I played Madden a long time that day and noticed it the next day

                              The 2K one showed a bit but was done within a day. Just the madden one but mostly where the teams score is because it is back dropped in dark tone which shows more.

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                              • 55
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                                • Mar 2006
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                                #1125
                                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                                I just bought my girlfriend a Samsung LN46D630 two days ago. I got it on sale for $639 marked down from $999 at Worst Lie. I'm no longer an LCD fan, but she is a real hippie when it comes to sucking up electricity and wanted an LCD so I grabbed her the best possible one that I could. It's crazy to think that just three years ago a comparable set cost $2000+.

                                In other news, the PN64D7000 is still kicking *** and taking names. By far the best TV I have ever owned.

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