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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #2236
    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

    Originally posted by Blzer
    Phoohawkey. I can see the difference between 720p and 1080i on my 23" LCD. It can't do 1080p, but I'm sure that would mean that 720p and 1080p would mean even more of a difference.

    Not saying it's worth or not worth a steeper price upgrade or what have you, but I never like when somebody decides to make a claim that it's impossible to perceive a picture quality difference.
    Your eyes are better than my eyes, then.

    We have a 32 inch in our bedroom. It's a LED, 1080p, I can't tell much difference at all between the upstairs TV and downstairs one I just explained and neither can our 17 yr. old. It is what it is, not everyone is the same in detecting things.

    Go into BB and look at the 32 inch screens. 90% of them are 720's.
    Last edited by roadman; 01-09-2013, 11:08 AM.

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    • authentic
      All Star
      • Jul 2009
      • 5812

      #2237
      Originally posted by roadman
      Your eyes are better than my eyes, then.

      We have a 32 inch in our bedroom. It's a LED, 1080p, I can't tell much difference at all between the upstairs TV and downstairs one I just explained and neither can our 17 yr. old. It is what it is, not everyone is the same in detecting things.

      Go into BB and look at the 32 inch screens. 90% of them are 720's.
      Once you go under 40 inches, 1080p isn't needed. We have a 1080p and 720p right next to each other and cannot tell the difference one bit, from sports to movies. According to ISF and THX, TVs under the 40" mark don't need 1080p because the human eye cannot see the difference in the two resolutions.
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      • roadman
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #2238
        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

        Originally posted by authentic
        Once you go under 40 inches, 1080p isn't needed. We have a 1080p and 720p right next to each other and cannot tell the difference one bit, from sports to movies. According to ISF and THX, TVs under the 40" mark don't need 1080p because the human eye cannot see the difference in the two resolutions.
        Exactly.

        The only reason why we went 1080p in the bedroom is because the BB rep said in our area, Time Warner and antennas are 80% of the customer base. He said Directv is the only provider in our area that broadcast in 1080. That's why we went with 1080 in the bedroom.

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42515

          #2239
          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by roadman
          Your eyes are better than my eyes, then.

          We have a 32 inch in our bedroom. It's a LED, 1080p, I can't tell much difference at all between the upstairs TV and downstairs one I just explained and neither can our 17 yr. old. It is what it is, not everyone is the same in detecting things.

          Go into BB and look at the 32 inch screens. 90% of them are 720's.
          Let me rephrase:

          On your 1080p TV, go on your 360 dashboard or PS3 XMB (if you own one), and go from your checked 1080p option, and downconvert it to 720p. Let me know if you see any difference on the dashboard/XMB itself, if not 1080p content like movies, etc.
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          • roadman
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #2240
            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

            Originally posted by Blzer
            Let me rephrase:

            On your 1080p TV, go on your 360 dashboard or PS3 XMB (if you own one), and go from your checked 1080p option, and downconvert it to 720p. Let me know if you see any difference on the dashboard/XMB itself, if not 1080p content like movies, etc.
            I'll take your word for it, the xbox is in the man cave area downstairs on the 720p TV.

            I was just talking about HD programming on both TV's.

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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42515

              #2241
              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

              Originally posted by roadman
              I'll take your word for it, the xbox is in the man cave area downstairs on the 720p TV.

              I was just talking about HD programming on both TV's.
              Oh... well no, there won't be a difference, because both will broadcast 720p (or 1080i, but both will broadcast the same thing). No 1080p television broadcasts, except some channels on DirecTV, which is upconverted.
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              • babythug23
                MVP
                • Oct 2005
                • 1987

                #2242
                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                Looking for a new led tv. Looking at best buy I saw a nice one for $999. I dont care for a smart tv but this one was. But the picture just look so good. I believe it was a 55 inch .
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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #2243
                  Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Oh... well no, there won't be a difference, because both will broadcast 720p (or 1080i, but both will broadcast the same thing). No 1080p television broadcasts, except some channels on DirecTV, which is upconverted.
                  Yeah, and that is why the BB rep recommended 1080p for our bedroom to take advantage of our directv service.

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                  • babythug23
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1987

                    #2244
                    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                    Which one of these are better? Is it a differences other than one is 3d and was is not [[B][/http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540191137 or http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540196359
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                    • GAMEC0CK2002
                      Stayin Alive
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 10384

                      #2245
                      Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                      Originally posted by babythug23
                      Which one of these are better? Is it a differences other than one is 3d and was is not [[B][/http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540191137 or http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540196359
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                      • authentic
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5812

                        #2246
                        Originally posted by babythug23
                        Which one of these are better? Is it a differences other than one is 3d and was is not [[B][/http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540191137 or http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/det...=1218540196359
                        Yeah, the 6500 model is just adding the 3d option. The 6100 model is the same in terms of picture quality, refresh rate, etc. if you're not going to use 3d, go 6100. If you want 3d, well I would suggest going to a 240hz tv.
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                        • GamingLegendOS
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 231

                          #2247
                          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                          Originally posted by sportdan30
                          So, I returned my Panasonic P50U50 50" Plasma because I just couldn't get past how dim the picture was. Even with the lights turned off and watching in the basement. Sports in particular were just too dark. Movies looked exceptional, but regular tv viewing also was dim. I played with all the settings and nothing helped.

                          I spent $59 more (had a $45 BB certficate) and purchased the Samsung 51" Plasma for $699. I did some research and found out that while the Samsung might not have the blackest of blacks, their panels are brigher than the Panasonic Plasmas. Yes, it's still not as bright as an LED, but the colors, motion, etc. along with sports and regular tv viewing are phenomenal.

                          On a side note, tonight I picked up a Logitech Harmony 650 remote for $80. BEST 80 dollars I've ever spent. I have completely missed the boat on remote controls. Before I was using the tv remote to turn the tv on, the directv remote to turn the dvr and change the channels, etc., and my surround sound remote for turning that on and off and adjusting the volume.

                          Well, after an easy set up an assigning a couple different activities, I now hit the "watch tv", and the tv, surround sound, and directv all turn on. Everything is controlled from one remote. Even better, I was able to program the 360, surround sound, and tv to all turn on at one time with the tv off. With it on, I can quickly switch over to the 360 by pressing actitivities and 360. I'm in loooooove with this remote and I realize this is pretty much the entry level Logitech remote. Can't imagine what the $250 and $350 remotes do!

                          Not sure what your budget is by Samsung plasma this year are not as bright as the Panny plasma

                          That is well documented

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                          • GamingLegendOS
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 231

                            #2248
                            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            Yeah, and that is why the BB rep recommended 1080p for our bedroom to take advantage of our directv service.
                            50 inches and smaller the diff is barely there if at all IF you sit further then 6 feet from the tv. Once you sit further the diff is gone but if you sit closer you will be able to tell.

                            When you have a 55-60-65 inch set then you can view the diff when sitting 10 ft back.

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #2249
                              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                              Originally posted by GamingLegendOS
                              50 inches and smaller the diff is barely there if at all IF you sit further then 6 feet from the tv. Once you sit further the diff is gone but if you sit closer you will be able to tell.
                              People keep saying this, but again... 23" LCD and I've sat six feet away seeing an easy difference between 720p and 1080i.

                              These "human eye facts" crap are just advisory warnings for those who may not see the difference, but you can't take them as the cold hard truth.
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                              • GamingLegendOS
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 231

                                #2250
                                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                People keep saying this, but again... 23" LCD and I've sat six feet away seeing an easy difference between 720p and 1080i.

                                These "human eye facts" crap are just advisory warnings for those who may not see the difference, but you can't take them as the cold hard truth.
                                That is fine if you can see it but this is the findings of those who test these things. Using your PS3 xmb is a horrible example. That is not motion resolution but from my experience I can see the diff because I sit close to my 23 inch led but if i sit back as if i am watching my 65 inch then you wont see any difference in motion resolution.

                                But if you do then good for you

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