Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

[JayBee74]

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And, again I ask, how is this different than any other genre?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you saying all genres of music or devoted to the degradation of women? It's not only that. Rap glorifies the most unsavory of people, from drug dealers to pimps.

[BGarrett7]

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I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you saying all genres of music or devoted to the degradation of women? It's not only that. Rap glorifies the most unsavory of people, from drug dealers to pimps.

I was stating that every genre has songs and artists who degrade women and are not socially healthy, rap music being no different. The only difference is, given the current state of mainstream music that is all that any casual listener would hear. Just because there aren't rock songs on the radio about beating up women and doing drugs does not mean it does not exist.

[Sonic6]

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There's a difference between someone like Cobain singing about the pains of addiction and some rapper talking about smoking weed, banging hoes and "poppin caps". Add to the fact that alot of the songs are just retatrded (laffy taffy anyone?) and rap is just easily the worst genre of music out there. Not to mention most rappers are fake anyways, for every black rapper dissing Vanillia Ice and the such, they might want to take a look in the mirror (50 Cent, Eminem, Ja Rule just to name a few).

[BGarrett7]

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There's a difference between someone like Cobain singing about the pains of addiction and some rapper talking about smoking weed, banging hoes and "poppin caps".

How is a rapper singing about smoking weed any different than Cobain singing about his addictions? It is the artists' music reflecting their lifestyle. I hardly see your point.

Add to the fact that alot of the songs are just retatrded (laffy taffy anyone?) and rap is just easily the worst genre of music out there.

Yes, because songs like "Hollaback Girl" and anything by Good Charlotte is just groundbreaking and insightful. All genres have incredibly stupid songs.

Not to mention most rappers are fake anyways, for every black rapper dissing Vanillia Ice and the such, they might want to take a look in the mirror (50 Cent, Eminem, Ja Rule just to name a few).

Just like Madonna from New York is suddenly some british chick and Gwen Stefani from the the OC is suddenly all ghetto-fabulous. There are far too many artists who are walking around claiming to be something they are not to just single out rappers.

[SPTO]

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Here is my view on rap/hip hop:

It's definitely more about a statement on a lifestyle that emphasizes material worth and degrading women. The thing is tho, rap/hip hop always had room for more uplifting music or music that addresses the issues of street life in a more mature and thoughtful way. This has gone to the curb since the death of Tupac IMO.

Most mainstream rap/hip hop caters to a young audience who are wowed by bling bling, phat hoes and violence. I was watching a show on Much Music (Canada's MTV but they still play music) in which people involved in the rap/hip hop industry lamented the fact that the mainstream rap we hear is so shallow in many ways.

Then again there are exceptions. I saw and heard Eminem's latest video and I was shocked at the brutal honesty and maturity in the song (sorry the title escapes me)

[jmood88]

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I just think that most rap is mindless and made for the masses like pop music, Britney Spears and NSync = 50 Cent and Eminem to me.

So you listen to mainstream stuff and criticize it for being mainstream? Good job.

[jmood88]

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Rebellion-against the establishment, white people, "house nig***". Many times the lyrics degrade women, and the music is not socially healthy.

The same thing was said about rock. I don't know how many times I have to say this, if you only listen to what's on the radio then you are ALWAYS going to hear crap.

[jmood88]

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When Country music talks about drugs, slapping bitches and hoes, and smoking weed...then I'll agree it's the same as every other genre.

Lmao if you actually listen to what some country guys then you will hear the same things that you hear if you listen to rap on the radio.

[jmood88]

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You take one guy and compare him to all of rap? There's not one rap artist out there that hasn't rapped about hoes, guns or drugs.

There are many who have rapped about hoes, guns, or drugs.

[jmood88]

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I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you saying all genres of music or devoted to the degradation of women? It's not only that. Rap glorifies the most unsavory of people, from drug dealers to pimps.

Good lord. Maybe if you actually tried to go outside the box and listen to rap that isn't 50 cent or any other mainstream artist then you will see that you are completely wrong.

[jmood88]

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Here is my view on rap/hip hop:

It's definitely more about a statement on a lifestyle that emphasizes material worth and degrading women. The thing is tho, rap/hip hop always had room for more uplifting music or music that addresses the issues of street life in a more mature and thoughtful way. This has gone to the curb since the death of Tupac IMO.

Most mainstream rap/hip hop caters to a young audience who are wowed by bling bling, phat hoes and violence. I was watching a show on Much Music (Canada's MTV but they still play music) in which people involved in the rap/hip hop industry lamented the fact that the mainstream rap we hear is so shallow in many ways.

Then again there are exceptions. I saw and heard Eminem's latest video and I was shocked at the brutal honesty and maturity in the song (sorry the title escapes me)

Mainstream rappers cater to the young surburban white kid who thinks that they know what the "street life" is about and they buy the albums up as soon as they come out. There are plenty of inspirational songs out there but you will never hear them because radio stations would rather play the same song over and over again. The mainstream does not represent all rappers and it's pretty sad that people would be ignorant enough to say that. If I judged rock by only what I heard on the radio then I would think that the entire genre is filled by pop bands who talk about nothing.

[jmood88]

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There's a difference between someone like Cobain singing about the pains of addiction and some rapper talking about smoking weed, banging hoes and "poppin caps". Add to the fact that alot of the songs are just retatrded (laffy taffy anyone?) and rap is just easily the worst genre of music out there. Not to mention most rappers are fake anyways, for every black rapper dissing Vanillia Ice and the such, they might want to take a look in the mirror (50 Cent, Eminem, Ja Rule just to name a few).

You don't know what you're talking about at all and if you want I can send you hundreds, if not thousands of songs that prove to you that you are wrong. It must be great to be willfully ignorant.

[Victor99]

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The bottom line is that music is all about personal taste. Always has, always will. I like clasic rock, and I'm not gonna change. But I respect other people's tastes. For example, I hear System Of A Down on the radio and it sounds like a bunch of mindless chaotic screaming to me. But to others, it sounds like a harmony. I may disagree with their opinions, but I respect them. Just how it is. I feel the same way about rap. It all sounds like a bunch of recycled rehashed, remixed garbage. But again, to others, a symphony of sound. No prob. If you don't like it, just don't listen to it.

[kuruption]

Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

The bottom line is that music is all about personal taste. Always has, always will. I like clasic rock, and I'm not gonna change. But I respect other people's tastes. For example, I hear System Of A Down on the radio and it sounds like a bunch of mindless chaotic screaming to me. But to others, it sounds like a harmony. I may disagree with their opinions, but I respect them. Just how it is. I feel the same way about rap. It all sounds like a bunch of recycled rehashed, remixed garbage. But again, to others, a symphony of sound. No prob. If you don't like it, just don't listen to it.

well put...

[BGarrett7]

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The bottom line is that music is all about personal taste. Always has, always will. I like clasic rock, and I'm not gonna change. But I respect other people's tastes. For example, I hear System Of A Down on the radio and it sounds like a bunch of mindless chaotic screaming to me. But to others, it sounds like a harmony. I may disagree with their opinions, but I respect them. Just how it is. I feel the same way about rap. It all sounds like a bunch of recycled rehashed, remixed garbage. But again, to others, a symphony of sound. No prob. If you don't like it, just don't listen to it.

Well, all you're doing is stating the obvious here. I don't think there is a poster here who doesn't acknowledge and accept exactly what you just said.

The issue at hand with these two bashing on rap is not what their personal tastes are, it's their ignorance towards the genre. They are more than welcome to dislike rap music all they want -- personally, I have a strong dislike for it myself, as well -- but their reaons are ones based on inaccuracies. Nothing at all wrong with saying "I don't like rap music because the lyrics aren't something I can relate to and sympathize with, while the beats don't fit my musical stylings," but when you say "I hate rap music because it's all about guns, hos, and weed" it's a little different.