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  • Victor99
    Living The Dream!
    • Mar 2005
    • 1230

    #286
    Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

    The bands of today can't hold a candle to the bands of the 60's, 70's, and 80's. Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, The Doors, AC/DC, ZZ Top, Eagles, Def Leppard, Queen, Jethro Tull, Steve Miller Band, Rush, Grateful Dead, Doobie Brothers, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Bad Company. You will NEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER see bands of that talent and caliber on the planet again. Truth be told, I do like some of the music today, but I'm VERY selective about it. But a lot of it feels so recycled and rehashed IMO. A lot of these bands can't even play their insturments, let alone cut singles and albums. They've got no rhythm or style. Call me old fashion, call me what you will, but that's just the way I feel. That was the whole point of the thread right? Peace.
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    • triplej96
      24fps
      • Aug 2002
      • 2152

      #287
      Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

      First off the radio for the most part SUCKS!

      Guns n Roses is a truely great band.

      Bright eyes lead singer Conor Orbest*spelling, is just a amazing muscian

      Brand New is a band most havent heard of but there latest cd is brilliant.
      -Josh

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      • Nivek
        H*ll *f F*m*
        • Jul 2002
        • 7999

        #288
        Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

        Originally posted by skydog71
        Can't really argue with this one. The Lennon-McCartney relationship was probably more than the sum of its parts, and its difficult to say which was more crucial. I actually prefer the Lennon songs on the Beatles albums over the McCartney ones. But something occured to me while listening to Revolver one day. The Lennon material is clearly stronger than McCartney's on this album... but check out those bass lines! McCartney was a good bass player, but oddly enough, he always does his best bass playing on Lennon's songs. That's the difference I see. Lennon is either right at the forefront or somewhere in the background, while McCartney is always in the thick of it.
        Don't forget that incredible guitar solo on Taxman, that's actually McCartney not George Harrison. The same solo is played in reverse on Tomorrow Never Knows...one the greatest guitar solos in music history.
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        • Silverstring
          Pro
          • Feb 2003
          • 739

          #289
          Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

          Originally posted by Nivek
          Either way, they both were made for each other and the McCartney/Lennon Song Catalog will never be matched...ever.
          Now this I agree with. The Beatles could be compared to a boxer; they were the best "pound-for-pound", song-for-song, album-for-album band, and you can make an argument that they quit at their height of power(Abbey Road). Rarely, if ever, did they lay an absolute EGG, like even the greatest bands tend to do.
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          • stiffarmleft
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 1986

            #290
            Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

            1. Prince is the most talented musician in the last 30 years.
            2. The dirty souf has set rap/hip hop back 10 years.
            3. Current R&B sucks.
            4. Ice Cube is the best West Coast rapper.
            5. NAS is overated.
            6. Michael Jackson is a black male.

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            • javaisfun
              Rookie
              • Mar 2005
              • 39

              #291
              Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

              Random thoughts-

              Coldplay is really pretty good, wouldn't say they're underratted or overrated.

              Queen is incredibly underated.

              I, personally, see NOTHING of quality in punk rock, rap, or country.

              As such, all bands in the above genres suck.

              Weird Al and Pink Floyd(odd couple) are the most original people in music ever.

              In general, one-hit wonder songs are better than their counterparts because the song must be at least pretty good to put the song on the charts.

              Radio is tremendously horrible.

              Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
              #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
              #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.

              Thoughts?

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              • ILLCHILL
                MVP
                • Feb 2004
                • 2820

                #292
                Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                Originally posted by javaisfun
                Random thoughts-


                Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
                #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
                #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.

                Thoughts?

                Well you can say that about almost anything....

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                • dieselboy
                  --------------
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 18040

                  #293
                  Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                  Originally posted by javaisfun
                  Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
                  #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
                  #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.
                  Couldn't disagree more.

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                  • ballerzinc
                    T*mpl* *wls
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1831

                    #294
                    Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                    Originally posted by stiffarmleft
                    2. The dirty souf has set rap/hip hop back 10 years.

                    I don't agree with this at all. Outkast has been one of the most influential hip hop groups of all-time. David Banner is a good producer and has some nice tracks. I think the dirty souf is innovation and that really emobodies hip hop. You may not like lil John and his songs but it was innovative. Plus T.I. is a high quality rapper today and his stuff is very underated even though he went platinum.

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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28959

                      #295
                      Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                      Originally posted by javaisfun
                      Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
                      #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
                      #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.

                      Thoughts?

                      I also couldn't disagree more. You need to do ALOT more exploration in your musical taste if you can't find songs that keep their magic over time. Ever heard the phrase "timeless classic"?


                      As for #1, I'm baffled anyone can say that. Music has so much emotion, feeling and meaning to it, regardless of who you are or what type of genre you listen to. I couldn't imagine going a single day without listening to music. Music is something that so many people love and are committed to, so how can you say that you spend too much time/money on something you love?
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                      • Fresh Tendrils
                        Strike Hard and Fade Away
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 36131

                        #296
                        Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                        Originally posted by javaisfun
                        Random thoughts-

                        Coldplay is really pretty good, wouldn't say they're underratted or overrated.
                        Overrated.

                        Queen is incredibly underated.
                        I'm not sure if I agree with this or not. They produced awesome music their entire careers, but I'm not sure who is underrating Queen, especially with Mercury gone.

                        I, personally, see NOTHING of quality in punk rock, rap, or country.

                        As such, all bands in the above genres suck.
                        Right. You're second statement means nothing after the above sentence.

                        Weird Al and Pink Floyd(odd couple) are the most original people in music ever.
                        Weird Al? Original? Taking hit songs and spoofing them was original? If you're going to throw in Pink Floyd, why not all the other classic rock bands?

                        In general, one-hit wonder songs are better than their counterparts because the song must be at least pretty good to put the song on the charts.
                        Not entirely true. Even if the band isn't a one-hit wonders, their singles are far from being their best songs. In general, the songs on the radio (one-hit wonders included) are on the radio because they are easier to market to a wider audience.

                        Radio is tremendously horrible.
                        Of course it is. Not only are you pounded on the head with songs, 95% which are complete ****, you have to hear them 5-10 times a day. Satellite radio, is a different matter.

                        Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
                        #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
                        #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.

                        Thoughts?
                        Could not disagree more. People spend way too much time and money on other things as well. Gaming could be thrown into this. Music says more than books, pictures, movies, and every other form of media out today. There's an imtimacy those other materials cannot acheive. Music can trick you, make you think and feel differently than what is actually happening to the singer and in the lyrics. Music is a reflection of our inner personality, of our moods and thoughts. It is a constant, a definition of a culture. It sustains the weak when fraile and cheers the sad when weeping. No amount of time or money spent on music is too much.

                        #2. No. And I'll take it a step further and take it to albums, because no song has lost its magic with me. I can put on Cornell's Euphoria Morning, today, tomorrow, a week from now, a month from now, hell next winter, and I'll get the same chills as the first time I listened to it. I can listen to Johnny Cash's At San Quentin and smile and laugh at the very same spots I smiled and laughed at on the first listen. I will continue to watch John Bonham perform Moby Dick and will continue to be surprised and awed. Temple of the Dog's self titled album will always hit me on a emotinal and intimate level. I can for all of my albums, I love them as much as I did the first listen. I can even venture to say that I love them all more and more with each listen through. No, music doesn't lose its magic.

                        I could understand if you don't like music as a primary or secondary hobby for yourself, but saying its "overrated" is insane.



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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #297
                          Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                          A couple more opinions, I don't know if people would disagree or not but here it is:

                          1. Nat King Cole was a better vocalist then Frank Sinatra. Sinatra was a very good interpreter of lyrics but his whole repetoire is filled with vocal tricks at times. I will say that Sinatra's voice held up much longer then most of his contemporaries as they aged. NKC had a very easy and smooth delivery that gave his songs more emotion IMO. I also think that he would've aged quite well if he hadn't been stricken with Cancer.

                          2. 2Pac is the greatest rapper in terms of syncopation of rythm. (sp) I've been listening to some of his music lately and I can't believe how great his songs sound from a musical perspective. His music had a dexterity and quality that you don't see in very many rap/hip hop acts these days.
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                          • javaisfun
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 39

                            #298
                            Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                            Originally posted by javaisfun
                            Random thoughts-

                            Coldplay is really pretty good, wouldn't say they're underratted or overrated.

                            Queen is incredibly underated.

                            I, personally, see NOTHING of quality in punk rock, rap, or country.

                            As such, all bands in the above genres suck.

                            Weird Al and Pink Floyd(odd couple) are the most original people in music ever.

                            In general, one-hit wonder songs are better than their counterparts because the song must be at least pretty good to put the song on the charts.

                            Radio is tremendously horrible.

                            Music, in general, is overrated. Before you throw stuff, My reasons why this is true:
                            #1. People spend way too much time and money on it.
                            #2. Songs, if you listen to them too much, lose their magic. Thus, if you find a song you like, soon you won't like it anymore.

                            Thoughts?
                            OK, my post last night. I was way tired, and half studying for finals. [/excuses]

                            I'm going to stand by the coldplay comment, and tone down the Queen comment. They are simply underrated.
                            I stand by my rap, country, and punk rock comment.
                            Weird Al is original in the sense that he is the only one who has done what he did sucessfully, to my knowledge. Pink Floyd is original.
                            I stand by my one-hit-wonder comment.
                            Radio is, for the most part, pretty terrible. Especially popular radio.

                            Now for the music is overrated comment:
                            I'm sorry, but I gotta stand by this one. It does seem as if people spend too much time and money on music. I really don't know about this. I think it might have to do with music being art. Art, in general, seems as if it's too impractical and not in the real world for people to be spending that much time and money on it. Again, I'm probably boiling something down way too much, thus making people disagree with me again, but I can't think of anyway else to explain my thoughts on this. [/alienating more people]
                            Also, for me, it seems to be true that if I listen to a song too much, it loses it's magic. Hearing the disagreements by others on this, this probably isn't true for everybody, or even most people. In that sense, music is overrated to me. Other people may say(and probably do) that baseball is overrated. That video games are overrated, that math is overrated. The majority of people probably disagree with all of my opinions, but oh well.

                            Edit: video games, math, and baseball(especially baseball statistics) are a few of my personal passions.
                            Last edited by javaisfun; 11-21-2005, 03:26 PM.

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28959

                              #299
                              Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                              Originally posted by javaisfun
                              Now for the music is overrated comment:
                              I'm sorry, but I gotta stand by this one. It does seem as if people spend too much time and money on music. I really don't know about this. I think it might have to do with music being art. Art, in general, seems as if it's too impractical and not in the real world for people to be spending that much time and money on it. Again, I'm probably boiling something down way too much, thus making people disagree with me again, but I can't think of anyway else to explain my thoughts on this. [/alienating more people]
                              Also, for me, it seems to be true that if I listen to a song too much, it loses it's magic. Hearing the disagreements by others on this, this probably isn't true for everybody, or even most people. In that sense, music is overrated to me. Other people may say(and probably do) that baseball is overrated. That video games are overrated, that math is overrated. The majority of people probably disagree with all of my opinions, but oh well.

                              Edit: video games, math, and baseball(especially baseball statistics) are a few of my personal passions.

                              You did a pretty good job of justifying your opinion right there. However, if that's the true case for you then I feel really bad for you because you're missing out on alot, IMO.
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                              • Husker_OS
                                Champs
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 21459

                                #300
                                Re: Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

                                -Nickelback is a good band. However, you either love them or you hate them. And generally, Nickelback doesn't get too many new fans. Most of their fans have been so for atleast 5 years.

                                -U2 is overrated. And overrated is never a good quality.

                                -Music is extremely mood dependent. I listen to different genres depending on my mood. Right now, its 90s alternative.

                                -Collective Soul has one great song(The World I Know) and many average songs.

                                -Matchbox Twenty was perhaps the best band during the 90s. Their debut album was incredible and is highly underrated.
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