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[SoMiss2000]

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Well, I want my game console to play games.

that's what sony is losing sight of.

as great as it is to be able to stream my music and video off my 360, it's still a gaming machine at heart. Microsoft didn't go overboard with functionality. I'd rather have a machine with those capablity more than have something like blue-ray forced on me and my pocket.

[fishepa]

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that's what sony is losing sight of.

as great as it is to be able to stream my music and video off my 360, it's still a gaming machine at heart. Microsoft didn't go overboard with functionality. I'd rather have a machine with those capablity more than have something like blue-ray forced on me and my pocket.

Another excellent point. All the stuff you can do with the 360 like stream media and all that good stuff is like a bonus. You're getting that because the console is made by MS and it's integrated with Windows.

[Graphik]

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that's what sony is losing sight of.

as great as it is to be able to stream my music and video off my 360, it's still a gaming machine at heart. Microsoft didn't go overboard with functionality. I'd rather have a machine with those capablity more than have something like blue-ray forced on me and my pocket.

My thoughts exactly. I find it funny that the blue ray and the other specs of the PS3 are taking precedence over finding or having some real gameplay vids.

[thegreatone0381]

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My thoughts exactly. I find it funny that the blue ray and the other specs of the PS3 are taking precedence over finding or having some real gameplay vids.

Seems like Sony's trying to win the next gen console war by marketing to people that don't even play video games. It'll probably work out for them.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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There are ZERO out right now, and many haven't been announced. I still don't see the big fuss over blu-ray.

Thank You, at least someone feels the way I do. Blue-Ray is overrated.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Seems like Sony's trying to win the next gen console war by marketing to people that don't even play video games. It'll probably work out for them.

It's actually a very smart move by Sony's standpoint. They are the king of double talking and are doing it here. Kurtagi's goal is to have a PS3 in every household whether you need it or not. He'll come close to suceeding...

[JohnnytheSkin]

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I'm coming in late to this discussion but figured I would share my views.

I agree with the consensus that the system will not retail for over $500. Microsoft set the bar at $400 w/ the Premium System, and let's not kid ourselves, that's the only 360 worth purchasing. Sony will likely enter at a higher price point to show that they have the loyal following, and also in order to economically show that their system is "superior". Hopefully it will include some decent HD cables and hopefully a hard drive.

As for the cost, I was fully planning on dropping $500 for the system, along with an additional $200 for a couple games and an extra controller. I might even spring for a second console once preorders get going in order to do the Ebay deal, a practice I detest but if someone will pay double or triple the console, why not get in on the game?

I also will enjoy the Blu Ray capability...in fact, I'm stoked about it. Ever since I picked up my 50" Samsung DLP, I've been hunting through the TV Guide to watch as many HD programs as possible. I love the picture, but hate how some networks don't preserve the source in the original aspect ratio. Watching primetime TV in HD is amazing! Not to mention the sports! When HD movies start coming, via Blu Ray or HD DVD, I will gladly re-buy several from my collection (LOTR, Star Wars, Matrix) just to experience the glory of HD. Did anyone even watch LOTR in HD when TNT aired them!? Getting a Blu Ray player included in my PS3 for a nominal cost increase, as opposed to dropping a grand on a player alone, is like heaven! Microsoft should have included HD DVD playback, and are now atoning for their mistake (not sure if the add-on drive is worth it though...I have to see it first).

I also like how Sony is "future proofing" to the best of their ability. I know it won't in reality extend the lifecycle of the system, but including new technology before it reaches mass market is a gamble, and one I think will pay off. The HDMI connectivity alone is worth a couple extra bucks (though not for TWO HDMI outputs). The system will sell and the games will be there...why fret over additional features? How many here used the PS2 as their primary (if not ONLY) DVD player upon launch? I picked mine up day one and didn't have an additional DVD player for two years. It's going to be the same way with Blu Ray. NetFlix is supporting the format, so you can see if the improvement is worth it. And the increased storage of the Blu Ray discs is going to improve the gaming experience.

Sorry if the rant is a bit disjointed, but I hate the fanboyism that is so prevalent in these discussions. I have a 360, will buy a PS3 at launch, and will pick up a Revolution early as well (to my wife's chagrin). If you don't like a system, don't buy it! Save your money, feed the hungry, do some charitable work, donate to a campaign, buy a hooker...

...but whatever you do, don't come on here and whine about the cost of a system that doesn't have a list price yet, nor poo-poo those who ARE going to buy the system and enjoy it.

[fishepa]

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I am by no means an MS fanboy, just giving my opinion on the matter.

[USF11]

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PS3 is make or break for Sony. They are bleeding money from their company like there is no tommarrow. They need their HDTV and PS3 divisions to pick up the whole rest of their businesses.

Microsoft has so much more money then Sony its not even funny. Sony can't afford to lose their installed base.

Over the long run Microsoft will overtake Sony in the video game market. It may take 10-15 years.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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I am by no means an MS fanboy, just giving my opinion on the matter.

I was just stating generalizations...no personal attack.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I was just stating generalizations...no personal attack.

I didn't take what you said as an attack. I probably come across very anti-Sony in my posts. I'm not. I own a Sony HDTV, I bought Sony's $1300 DVD player back in 1996, I own a PS2, etc.

My whole line of posting goes on we get 5 or 6 new PS3 posts a week about price, features, etc. I just am trying to figure out why everyone wants it, that's it. Some have said Blu Ray and some want it because of Sony exclusive games. I get that, I really do. And maybe come May, I might be hyped for it as well. But last year, same time, I had no interest in the 360 either. I need to see games on a system before I can even think about it. And when we get tons of posts about a system that no one has seen an in game shot of a game on yet, we have to pose the question why.

I can't win either way, if I hype the PS3, I'm a Sony Fanboy, if I hype the Xbox 360, I'm a MS fanboy. I told someone I thought the DS was a much better "gaming" system than the PSP and was labled a Nintendo fanboy.

I currently own every system out there but the PSP. I have every intention of buying a Revolution. The only reason I won't buy a PS3 at this point is because most of the games for 360 and PS3 will be identical. I'm not a big fan of Sony's first party stuff other than MLB.

But I can do one thing, and that's avoid this conversations because I've realized what it seems like. I'm going to read them because that's what I do because I'm a mod. But I'll avoid posting in them because it's really a lose/lose situation. The few heavy PS3 supporters have their reasons for the system, whether it be their love for Sony, Blu Ray, 1st party, or hatred of MS..whatever. So be it, I'm not going to change their mind nor am I trying to.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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Well ExtremeGamer, I wasn't referencing you...but I digress.

My hope is that people could just evaluate every system on it's own merits and not resort to "defending their purchase" by insulting the other manufacturers. PS3 will still have Insomniac and Naughty Dog (and probably Jason Rubin's new games), along with Kojima and Metal Gear. Xbox has Bungie and a lot of exclusive stuff by Bioware, and Nintendo has themselves. I love the games across all three platforms and it seems that those who are fanboys are just jealous that they can't play the games on the other systems. To each his own, I just wish there wasn't so much venom. At least the cronyism here isn't as bad as other forums (cough, GameFAQ's, cough).

Something else that dawned on me, which was a topic of discussion a ways back...the $60 cost of next-gen games. While I agree with the anger EA gets for offering fewer features for more bucks, am I the only one who really isn't bothered by the increase in game price? I remember my parents buying me "Final Fantasy III" and "Chrono Trigger" for SNES at $80 and being stunned that they would drop that kind of cash on my video games. Looking at bargain basement CD/DVD games of today compared to the ultra expensive cartridges (mind you that was ten years ago...imagine what those cartridge games would cost today), I have zero problem paying $50-60 for a next gen game.

Kids these days...they just don't know how good they've got it.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Oh, I know Johnny. I didn't mean it to sound that way. I was just saying in general.

[sdrotar]

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PS3 is make or break for Sony. They are bleeding money from their company like there is no tommarrow. They need their HDTV and PS3 divisions to pick up the whole rest of their businesses.

Microsoft has so much more money then Sony its not even funny. Sony can't afford to lose their installed base.

Over the long run Microsoft will overtake Sony in the video game market. It may take 10-15 years.

The first and second parts are absolutely true - but I expect the PS3 to be a huge success, regardless of price point.
To many people, PlayStation is to video games as Kleenex is to facial tissue and Xerox is to photocopies.
Is that fair - or even realistic? Of course not; but it is what it is. Sony knows that, and they're going to leverage it.

Can Microsoft ever catch them? I don't know - but it will be at least 10-15 years, if ever. I'm not convinced that Microsoft is even trying to do that, to be honest. There's a lot of money to be made - even in second place.

[Lintyfresh85]

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I think another factor that will make or break Sony is Spider-Man 3. The first two made massive amounts of money for Sony, and I'm sure the 3rd one will do just as good.