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  • elicoleman
    Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
    • Sep 2002
    • 34655

    #361
    Re: Guitar Hero 4

    Originally posted by thelwig14
    Never understood the RB v. GH debate. The more songs the better. Can't wait til this releases...
    Because the games are more than simply playing songs?

    Quality should be a factor, which clearly RB wins at.
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    • Miles_Yuhas
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2689

      #362
      Re: Guitar Hero 4

      Originally posted by thelwig14
      Never understood the RB v. GH debate. The more songs the better. Can't wait til this releases...
      I'm not trying to pay 60 bones to play Hotel California, thats why the debate. These games cost a lot of money.

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      • TJdaSportsGuy
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2002
        • 11146

        #363
        Re: Guitar Hero 4

        Originally posted by elicoleman
        Because the games are more than simply playing songs?

        Quality should be a factor, which clearly RB wins at.
        Maybe I haven't played Rock Band 2 enough but to me...other than song selection...what's the big difference? To me, they seem like clones of one another and like someone else said, I like having a wide selection of songs to choose from. I have GH3, GH Aerosmith, and RB2 and couldn't be happier. I'm sure I'll pick GH: World Tour at some point as well.

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        • ExtremeGamer
          Extra Life 11/3/18
          • Jul 2002
          • 35299

          #364
          Re: Guitar Hero 4

          Originally posted by TJdaSportsGuy
          Maybe I haven't played Rock Band 2 enough but to me...other than song selection...what's the big difference? To me, they seem like clones of one another and like someone else said, I like having a wide selection of songs to choose from. I have GH3, GH Aerosmith, and RB2 and couldn't be happier. I'm sure I'll pick GH: World Tour at some point as well.
          For me, it's the note charts, they are downright terrible in the GH series since Harmonix left.

          Plus, after playing Rock Band, I simply can't play with the cartoony looking graphics of GH.

          That, and I hate what Activision did to the series in whoring it out. Everytime you turn around another GH game is released, it's even on cell phones. I mean, cool and all, but where does it stop? They charge double per song what RB does for DLC, and just completely whored out the game.

          RB2 is the only music game I even own and will until RB3 hits.

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          • TJdaSportsGuy
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2002
            • 11146

            #365
            Re: Guitar Hero 4

            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
            For me, it's the note charts, they are downright terrible in the GH series since Harmonix left.

            Plus, after playing Rock Band, I simply can't play with the cartoony looking graphics of GH.

            That, and I hate what Activision did to the series in whoring it out. Everytime you turn around another GH game is released, it's even on cell phones. I mean, cool and all, but where does it stop? They charge double per song what RB does for DLC, and just completely whored out the game.

            RB2 is the only music game I even own and will until RB3 hits.
            I don't notice a difference in the note charts, maybe because I can't go above medium difficulty. As for the graphics, lol, I hardly ever even notice the graphics. I'm too busy looking at the notes I'm supposed to hit.

            I just looked at the song list for GH:WT and decided I'm definitely going to get it. There's some damn good songs there. I've always been a pretty big Hendrix fan, and playing some Willie Nelson sounds like fun as well, lol.

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            • Mizzou23
              MVP
              • Dec 2002
              • 1761

              #366
              Re: Guitar Hero 4

              Originally posted by TJdaSportsGuy
              I don't notice a difference in the note charts, maybe because I can't go above medium difficulty. As for the graphics, lol, I hardly ever even notice the graphics. I'm too busy looking at the notes I'm supposed to hit.

              I just looked at the song list for GH:WT and decided I'm definitely going to get it. There's some damn good songs there. I've always been a pretty big Hendrix fan, and playing some Willie Nelson sounds like fun as well, lol.
              Play Mississippi Queen on expert in both games and you'll see the difference.
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              • TJdaSportsGuy
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2002
                • 11146

                #367
                Re: Guitar Hero 4

                Originally posted by Mizzou23
                Play Mississippi Queen on expert in both games and you'll see the difference.
                LOL, I don't know if I'd last far enough into the song to see a difference.

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                • injunwal
                  T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2103

                  #368
                  Re: Guitar Hero 4

                  Originally posted by TJdaSportsGuy
                  Maybe I haven't played Rock Band 2 enough but to me...other than song selection...what's the big difference? To me, they seem like clones of one another and like someone else said, I like having a wide selection of songs to choose from. I have GH3, GH Aerosmith, and RB2 and couldn't be happier. I'm sure I'll pick GH: World Tour at some point as well.
                  I am with TJ, I have both Rock Band 1&2 and all the GH games. I will also be picking up World tour. I just love both series and dont see the need for the debate. I also like the cartoony look of GH better but to each his own.
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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42526

                    #369
                    Re: Guitar Hero 4

                    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                    For me, it's the note charts, they are downright terrible in the GH series since Harmonix left.
                    I've been trying to tell you that since pre-release, and you seemed to like how they represented songs like 3's and 7's. I thought it was the most putrid thing I've ever seen.

                    Plus, after playing Rock Band, I simply can't play with the cartoony looking graphics of GH.

                    That, and I hate what Activision did to the series in whoring it out. Everytime you turn around another GH game is released, it's even on cell phones. I mean, cool and all, but where does it stop? They charge double per song what RB does for DLC, and just completely whored out the game.

                    RB2 is the only music game I even own and will until RB3 hits.
                    To add onto this (with 100% agreement), they've just plain messed things up. The fretboard and buttons, etc., feel very downgraded, considering they look the exact same on PS2 as they did on 360. Also, Star Power just got weird... really ugly and annoying sounding. When you activate Star Power, there's this very loud and obnoxious surge sound, plus the song goes into Symphony Hall mode where it starts echoing, like being in Star Power makes the song different or something. It really throws off the consistency.

                    I'd like to continue about the note charts, but simply put, they made them, plus the timing window, so it's all about how fast you can move your fingers. I liked songs that had a "natural" difficulty to them. I don't consider the song difficult, but look at something like Can't You Hear Me Knockin' on GH2; it has its own little charm to how you gotta play the song, and it doesn't try and make you use three-button chords everywhere just to make it harder, it's just naturally hard. Plus, three-button chords aren't hard, they're just annoying, especially when they don't fit.

                    And it's been an issue in GH3, but I have to strum at notes earlier than when the audio tells me that I should. I don't know if this is in GH: Aerosmith or if this will be a problem in GH: World Tour, but it was in GH3 and I didn't like it. This is also an intangible dislike for myself, but there's some difference between Harmonix's releases and Neversoft's where I simply don't feel like I'm playing the song the same way I do with the original Guitar Hero games and Rock Bands. Before I was thinking it had to do with the master tracks, and that could still be the case, but I feel like I'm playing the songs when I play Rock Band, so perhaps that's not the case. Either way, it has something to do with their graphical interface that throws me off, not really feeling like I'm playing the song. Something just doesn't feel as rewarding as you hit each note, not sure why, but it affects me in a bad way.


                    Nevertheless, some songs on GH3 have been my favorite to play ever (notably Even Flow), but like someone said earlier, one song isn't worth $60.
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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #370
                      Re: Guitar Hero 4

                      I know I should have listened to you awhile ago.

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42526

                        #371
                        Re: Guitar Hero 4

                        Originally posted by Mizzou23
                        Play Mississippi Queen on expert in both games and you'll see the difference.
                        How about 3's and 7's:



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                        • thelwig14
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3145

                          #372
                          Re: Guitar Hero 4

                          Originally posted by elicoleman
                          Because the games are more than simply playing songs?

                          Quality should be a factor, which clearly RB wins at.
                          Subjective.

                          I strongly prefer Rock Band, but anyone who prefers Guitar Hero can make a solid argument of its superiority.

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                          • thelwig14
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3145

                            #373
                            Re: Guitar Hero 4

                            Originally posted by Miles_Yuhas
                            I'm not trying to pay 60 bones to play Hotel California, thats why the debate. These games cost a lot of money.
                            I am a music junkie, so these games are the best "value" games by a mile for me. In addition, if you aren't a music junkie, they are still great value games as their values holds for a considerable time after release.

                            Out of the box, Guitar Hero and Rock Band aren't broken like the large majority of sports games.

                            There are 19 doubles I believe. That sucks. That sucks bigtime. And whoever is second gets the blame...Guitar Hero. But, for $60, you are getting 65 songs to be played on 4 different instruments.

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                            • aukevin
                              War Eagle, Go Braves!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 14700

                              #374
                              Re: Guitar Hero 4

                              Originally posted by elicoleman
                              Because the games are more than simply playing songs?

                              Quality should be a factor, which clearly RB wins at.
                              To me, it really is all about playing the songs. I don't really care about the tour mode, I just fire up the game and my wife and I spend hours in quick play playing the songs we like. In RB2 I go into tour mode now because you can set you whole band up that way, but we just mainly do the create setlist gigs.

                              As for GHWT, there are 20 songs (excluding DLC and songs that are duplicates on RB) that I really want to play. So a $60 game for 20 songs is pretty high, but simply playing the songs is what I care about and I get a lot of use out of it. I'm planning on holding off on GHWT a little while since RB2 just came out for PS3, so hopefully I can get the game only for around $45 or $50 in a few months.

                              There is no doubt that I think RB is the better game all around. Better atmosphere, better note-charting, better style, etc. But I want the songs on GHWT, so I'm fine with getting it.

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                              • all4isu
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 97

                                #375
                                Re: Guitar Hero 4

                                Man those vid's of 3's and 7's say it all. At least they know they screwed up GH3 and have tried to make it better in GH:AS and GH:WT. Part of the problem with the charting is the 3 chord note. While its harder its def not more enjoyable. I think once they introduced it into the series they put it in way to much. Either way I still enjoy the series and I'm really looking fwd to Sunday where I get this and RB2.

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