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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23441

    #886
    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

    It is quite a few Americans that have died now because they went out and bought chloroquine. People out here taking that stuff and killing themselves. Sad times.

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    • jb12780
      Hall of Fame
      • Oct 2008
      • 10665

      #887
      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

      Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
      Just got a call from my new boss at the New York State Dept. of Health to update me on my employment.

      She said, I can either:

      A- Start next Thursday helping take calls at a call center on Covid-19 from the community.

      Answering questions, screening people for possible exposure and setting them up to be tested at the nearest site near them.

      Or

      B- Delay my employment, until the building I will be working from opens again. No time table on this.

      Decided on option A. Don't have enough in the reserve to not work for maybe 2-3 months.

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      Those lines will be busy! I called Saturday morning at 7 and it was an expected 30 minute wait.


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      • dubcity
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2012
        • 17876

        #888
        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
        "Intentionally" tanking the economy? It's clear we don't have nearly enough medical supplies, staffing, beds, hospitals, et al to deal with the influx of a large portion of the population getting sick and seeking treatment.
        States going in to lockdown was a choice. I think it was very smart, but it was a choice by each state. They could have stuck with advisories for everyone, suggestions, etc, and seen what would happen. Shutting down businesses was a choice made. I think it was the right one, but then again I'm not paycheck to paycheck.

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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #889
          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
          "Intentionally" tanking the economy? It's clear we don't have nearly enough medical supplies, staffing, beds, hospitals, et al to deal with the influx of a large portion of the population getting sick and seeking treatment.
          This N95 mask thing is crazy. NewYork-Presbyterian is using 40,000 of them a day and they will eventually need 70,000 per day. Yeah, it's one of the largest hospitals in the world (close to 2700 beds) but that's a lot of masks.

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #890
            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

            Originally posted by dubcity
            States going in to lockdown was a choice. I think it was very smart, but it was a choice by each state. They could have stuck with advisories for everyone, suggestions, etc, and seen what would happen. Shutting down businesses was a choice made.
            Yeah, but that choice wasn't to tank the economy, it was to save lives. Last time I checked it's in the best interest of a governor NOT to tank his state's economy.

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            • BurghFan
              #BurghProud
              • Jul 2009
              • 10050

              #891
              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

              Originally posted by slickdtc
              What’s concerning to me is the death rate among resolved cases (recovered or died). It’s at 70 ****ing percent dying right now. What the hell?!

              I understand it’s at like 700 resolved cases of 40000 total, so it’s likely to go down. But I see Italy at 55%/45% and much higher sample size (13000).

              Can anyone explain this? Wasn’t the fatality rate supposed to be 3%?!
              Are you sure its "resolved" and not "recovered". The Johns Hopkins map I've been keeping tabs on has "recovered". Either way, that number will never be accurate as I'm sure a significant portion of people will be lost to followup because they don't come in for all the needed tests to confirm they are truly recovered. Best to just look at the number of deaths over the number of cases for your mortality rate
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              • dubcity
                Hall Of Fame
                • May 2012
                • 17876

                #892
                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                Originally posted by JayBee74
                Yeah, but that choice wasn't to tank the economy, it was to save lives. Last time I checked it's in the best interest of a governor NOT to tank his state's economy.
                Like I said, it was the right thing to do. My main point was that these decisions led to where we are, and where we are with these lockdowns is not sustainable for more than a few months. It just won't make sense.

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                • bigfnjoe96
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 11410

                  #893
                  Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                  Originally posted by jb12780
                  Those lines will be busy! I called Saturday morning at 7 and it was an expected 30 minute wait.


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                  Totally figuring that will be the case. How you feeling jb?

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                  • jb12780
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 10665

                    #894
                    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                    Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                    Totally figuring that will be the case. How you feeling jb?

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                    Same as earlier. Still have no sense of taste or smell, stuffy nose, and a bit of an earache.


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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #895
                      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                      Originally posted by jb12780
                      Same as earlier. Still have no sense of taste or smell, stuffy nose, and a bit of an earache.


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                      Sorry to hear this. Keep staying hydrated, and rest up. Hoping you feel better soon

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                      • cusefan74
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2408

                        #896
                        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                        Italy is letting people die, so trying to throw their numbers into this is just wrong at this point.

                        I think people are starting to panic some. People are starting to say the death rate is climbing. I've heard numbers from 25% to 70% are dying and that just is not the case. As of this morning it's less then 2% death rate in the U.S. Most of those and I mean most are people that already had health issues.

                        Also we had somebody die last night in my county that had it, she was elderly and had other health issues, but here is the thing, she didn't die from the virus she died from her other problems. So how many times has that happened and it is recorded as a death caused by the virus. I'm sure the virus didn't help and sped up what was gonna happen anyways.

                        So what are the real numbers? I don't know but I tend to think that the virus itself kills less then we think. Is it bad to get it if you have health issues? Sure it is, but if you are a healthy person you got just a good of chance of dying from the flu.

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #897
                          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                          Originally posted by cusefan74
                          Also we had somebody die last night in my county that had it, she was elderly and had other health issues, but here is the thing, she didn't die from the virus she died from her other problems. So how many times has that happened and it is recorded as a death caused by the virus. I'm sure the virus didn't help and sped up what was gonna happen anyways.
                          She got the virus and died. You don't even know the details of her health concerns or how long she might have been expected to live had she not contracted the virus. To downplay CV 19's impact to the point that it shouldn't count on the ledger is absurd.

                          My aunt is 84 and was diagnosed as having A-Fib and heart failure six years and is doing very well (including a recent EXCELLENT report) because of the advances in today's medicine. She could live another 5-10 years.

                          "sped up what was gonna happen anyways"?. You know how callous that sounds?

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #898
                            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                            Originally posted by cusefan74
                            Italy is letting people die, so trying to throw their numbers into this is just wrong at this point.

                            I think people are starting to panic some. People are starting to say the death rate is climbing. I've heard numbers from 25% to 70% are dying and that just is not the case. As of this morning it's less then 2% death rate in the U.S. Most of those and I mean most are people that already had health issues.

                            Also we had somebody die last night in my county that had it, she was elderly and had other health issues, but here is the thing, she didn't die from the virus she died from her other problems. So how many times has that happened and it is recorded as a death caused by the virus. I'm sure the virus didn't help and sped up what was gonna happen anyways.

                            So what are the real numbers? I don't know but I tend to think that the virus itself kills less then we think. Is it bad to get it if you have health issues? Sure it is, but if you are a healthy person you got just a good of chance of dying from the flu.
                            Yeah, I don't get this, you are entitled to your opinion, but my grandmother is in a nursing home and on lockdown. She has a-fib, blood pressure, and some other underlying issues, but I'd like to see her live as long as she can like Jaybee's aunt, grandma can live more with medications, but there isn't a darn thing anyone can do if she becomes infected with it.

                            I threw up a video earlier today in here that if the curve doesn't flatten,(and we are in the early stages), we will become like Italy and doctors choosing who has priority over hospitalized cases. Of the people who are hospitalized, one in 50 people will live, based on the MD's calculations.

                            Dr. Fauci has proved over and over again the mortality rate vs the flu is 10x more with CV vs the flu. He has stated nobody can compare CV to the flu and vice - versa or any other virus that we have encountered over the years.
                            Last edited by roadman; 03-23-2020, 06:57 PM.

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                            • p_rushing
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 14514

                              #899
                              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              Dr. Fauci has proved over and over again the mortality rate vs the flu is 10x more with CV vs the flu. He has stated nobody can compare CV to the flu and vice - versa or any other virus that we have encountered over the years.
                              While true, no one really knows anything yet. Until there is a treatment like the flu and tests are available at regular doctor office, it's all a guess.

                              It's probably less than 10x the flu because we are already there with little testing being done. It's probably closer to the South Korea numbers or less.

                              The plan so far has been to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed like in Italy. It is nothing to do with treatment or stopping it. The same thing could happen with the flu if everyone got it at the sametime. Unless 500,000+ people die in the US, it won't be 10x worse than the flu.

                              Fauci job is to give the worst case scenario and try to save as many people as possible. He isn't concerned with the lives of the living being ruined for 5+ years. Others have to balance the effects on the economy.

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #900
                                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                                Originally posted by p_rushing
                                While true, no one really knows anything yet. Until there is a treatment like the flu and tests are available at regular doctor office, it's all a guess.

                                It's probably less than 10x the flu because we are already there with little testing being done. It's probably closer to the South Korea numbers or less.

                                The plan so far has been to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed like in Italy. It is nothing to do with treatment or stopping it. The same thing could happen with the flu if everyone got it at the sametime. Unless 500,000+ people die in the US, it won't be 10x worse than the flu.

                                Fauci job is to give the worst case scenario and try to save as many people as possible. He isn't concerned with the lives of the living being ruined for 5+ years. Others have to balance the effects on the economy.

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                                Sorry, I'm assuming that Dr. Fauci would know that the death rate with the flu is .01% and the death rate with the CV could range from 1 to 3%.

                                Also, Governor Cuomo, who does care about his state's economy stated we could go on living like this for 4 months, 6 months, 9 months, nobody knows at this point. He also is asking a doctor in NY studying at a NY University how feasible is it for the state of NY to get the younger people back in the work force. He knows at some point he needs to make a pivot towards the economy, but he doesn't know when.

                                I see you are focused on the end number of 550,000, it's not the final numbers, it's the final percentages that count.
                                Last edited by roadman; 03-23-2020, 07:39 PM.

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