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Old 09-19-2016, 08:33 PM   #1241
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It was intended as a 'clear the deck' maneuver to rid us of any unwanted POTENTIAL impact of the mm sliders on the CFM sliders. I did reinstitute the default values as a test and saw a definite increase in suction blocking. We may need to pick and choose here a bit.

I'm really very much in standby mode though for making even further elaborate changes until we get further news on a patch.

I got a couple of smaller changes I'm looking at for cleanup, but am going to take a more passive approach with regards to minute changes until the patch drops.

Edit: I suspect (hope) EA will be making some changes to both pursuit angles, LB behavior, and QB behavior. Until some of the core issues are addressed, it's going to be very tough to fully address them with just slider tweaks. I don't want to spend yet more time addressing each one of these sliders just to have to do it all over again when the patch drops. As it stands, with this set, plus the one or two possible updates I am looking at, it should be relatively easy to modify a few values back towards a more nominal value when the patch comes out.

Edit 2: Sorry....just thinking aloud...I really think we need to take an "all or nothing" approach with these main menu gameplay sliders. My concern is that if we start modifying them piecemeal, then we'll start to get a lot of the "unintended consequences" that you have from modifying gameplay sliders in general. So, either all default or all 0.
Awesome, thanks for the info. I had a feeling that was the reasoning behind the decision. I definitely recommend playing with the MM sliders a bit once the patch comes out, and I'll be doing the same. After an exchange with King, I'm going to try using your sliders with All Madden as my MM difficulty. Hopefully we can get the additional challange without seeing ratings impacted.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:48 PM   #1242
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OK....this is it! A big thanks to my big time slider buddy Matt10 for his support, ideas, and observations....it couldn't have happened without his insights.

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I suck at the new kicking game. I always seem to shank punts and field goals. It's so bad I sim kicking plays. If i adjust the main menu user kicking sliders how would this affect your slider set?
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:16 PM   #1243
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I suck at the new kicking game. I always seem to shank punts and field goals. It's so bad I sim kicking plays. If i adjust the main menu user kicking sliders how would this affect your slider set?
It would affect it pretty seriously in lots of phases of the game. I don't recommend doing this.
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Awesome, thanks for the info. I had a feeling that was the reasoning behind the decision. I definitely recommend playing with the MM sliders a bit once the patch comes out, and I'll be doing the same. After an exchange with King, I'm going to try using your sliders with All Madden as my MM difficulty. Hopefully we can get the additional challange without seeing ratings impacted.
I've been doing this with both on AM (mm and cfm) because I just wasn't getting the challenge I was looking for on AP...I know there are dangers but from what I've seen the physics type stuff is still working great through about 5 games plus the added AM type difficulty stuff.

I know a lot of purists hate the "cheating" AM stuff, but for some of us it is needed
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I don't know what happened but all of a sudden what was a challenge has become stupid easy for me. I follow your sliders verbatim and the past four games I'm lighting up the defense through the air with far too much ease. On every play at least one WR is incredibly wide open. I play as the Browns and Cody Kessler is playing like Drew Brees. I never use cheese plays and always use variety with my playcalling.

I might use these but switch over to All Madden if my next game plays the same way.

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Old 09-19-2016, 10:40 PM   #1246
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I don't know what happened but all of a sudden what was a challenge has become stupid easy for me. I follow your sliders verbatim and the past four games I'm lighting up he defense through the air with far to much ease. On every play at least one WR is incredibly wide open. I play as the Browns and Cody Kessler is playing like Drew Brees. I never use cheese plays and always use variety with my playcalling.

I might use these but switch over to All Madden if my next game plays the same way.
Try deleting and then re-saving your profile....also try hitting reset in your CFM slider area (even though nothing is adjusted)...sometimes the game gets a bit wonky....
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Old 09-20-2016, 06:38 AM   #1247
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I know everyone thinks the sliders seems to be getting easier but maybe you all are just getting more accustomed to the game and the controls think of how it would have been if these sliders were ready day one out the box then it would be totally diff but everyone has been playing for all good now some more than others but I think it's just your getting alot better reading coverage and know how to stop it ....My two cents cause I feel like same way i believe in default setup just cause any adjustments anywhere cause more problems than needed....for me I kept going back to all Madden also but the CPU does things that takes the fun out of it the quick teleporting and stuff is a bit much so I figured I'll wait till another patch before I start playing again awesome slider concept here is though really appreciate the effort for all
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I'm wondering if changing all the MM values to 0 caused my passing game to go through the roof. I felt like pass coverage has been non existent since I made the switch to 0s. I can easily pass for nearly 400 yards and I was barely hitting 280 before the change. Has anyone else noticed anything similar?

Anyway, gonna give these a few more games and see if I notice a difference. If not, I may have to bump up to the dreaded all madden difficulty.

Appreciate everyone's efforts here.
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