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  • Deuce2223
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 12571

    #3751
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Post this about 10 pages back but I think it got lost in the Brandon Morrow debate, However did notice AC did take time to comment on my post.

    I started a Brewers Franchise and I am looking to try and win enough to stay competitive in the division but also want to work on rebuilding a pretty sad farm system, so I am pretty content on keeping the roster intact except I would like to deal Braun before the season starts.

    Obviously I am very familiar with the M's farm system and feel like he would be a good fit there as they are in a win now mode after signing Cano, but what other teams would be a good fit.

    Boston? NY Mets?, Yankees?, Phillies? Maybe Texas?

    Spreadsheet says low A and 2 mid B's anyone want to help me out with some ideas.

    I would like to find a almost ready 3B or a MLB 3B to take over for A-Ram (figure if he can stay healthy I can move him to 1B or maybe trade him to a team that needs a DH) Also would need a OF back because they don't really have a #4 OF as it is after trading Akoi so I would need to fill Braun's spot and would like to work on improving the bullpen.

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    • WaitTilNextYear
      Go Cubs Go
      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #3752
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      OK, now my turn

      Did not want to do this quite so early (mid June would've been ideal), but it's May 20th in my Twins 'chise where I currently sit at 15-28 (0.5 games in front of last in MLB Houston and Miami).

      My dilemma is this...

      Alex Meyer (6-2, 3.24 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 2.02 DIPS, 72.1 IP, 77:15 K:BB, .230 BAA) is straight dealing in AAA and he needs to come up to the big club pronto. To make room for him, I am trying to move Scott Diamond who started strong in AAA with a 2.43 ERA in 40+ IP and has continued in MLB with a 3.12 ERA (19:12 K:BB in 26 IP) in 4 starts with the big club. Diamond is a mid C + low C.

      I'd like to send him out of division to the Yankees, who are 24-21, but missing Sabathia, Nova, and Pineda from their rotation. The Yankees are not getting much from Phelps (5.01 ERA) and have Vidal Nuno and Chase Whitley both in their rotation.

      I'm looking at Manny Banuelos, the star-crossed LHP prospect, in return. Banuelos is listed as high C + low C and sports a 5.55 ERA (54:29 K:BB) in 48.2 IP at AA Trenton.

      I'm also looking at J.R. Murphy (high C + high C) if not Banuelos. Murphy is backing up McCann with a .242/.286/.333 line in 33 AB.

      This trade is more about freeing a rotation spot, but I am also trying to add some LHP and/or C depth into my farm.

      Any thoughts on this?
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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #3753
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Diamond for J.R. Murphy seems pretty okay, maybe you could give a little more back.
        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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        • Bull_Market
          Pro
          • Jul 2012
          • 618

          #3754
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Deuce2223
          Post this about 10 pages back but I think it got lost in the Brandon Morrow debate, However did notice AC did take time to comment on my post.

          I started a Brewers Franchise and I am looking to try and win enough to stay competitive in the division but also want to work on rebuilding a pretty sad farm system, so I am pretty content on keeping the roster intact except I would like to deal Braun before the season starts.

          Obviously I am very familiar with the M's farm system and feel like he would be a good fit there as they are in a win now mode after signing Cano, but what other teams would be a good fit.

          Boston? NY Mets?, Yankees?, Phillies? Maybe Texas?

          Spreadsheet says low A and 2 mid B's anyone want to help me out with some ideas.

          I would like to find a almost ready 3B or a MLB 3B to take over for A-Ram (figure if he can stay healthy I can move him to 1B or maybe trade him to a team that needs a DH) Also would need a OF back because they don't really have a #4 OF as it is after trading Akoi so I would need to fill Braun's spot and would like to work on improving the bullpen.
          What Brandon Morrow debate?

          Boston, maybe, of the teams you listed I think they have the most assets in order to pull off a fair deal. As to what those parts are? Middlebrooks+Betts+Owens?
          Last edited by Bull_Market; 06-20-2014, 09:44 PM.
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #3755
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Deuce2223
            Boston? NY Mets?, Yankees?, Phillies? Maybe Texas?
            Boston: Cecchini, Owens, Swihart
            Boston alternate: Cecchini, Betts, Barnes
            New York M: Syndergaard, Nimmo, DeGrom
            New York Y: Not even close to enough pieces
            Phillies: Nope
            Texas: Gallo, Sardinas, Jackson/Gonzalez/Demeritte

            If I had to rank them:

            1. TEX
            2. NYM
            3. BOS Alernate
            4. BOS
            5. whatever Seattle would offer
            6. Yankees/Phillies
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #3756
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by AC
              Diamond for J.R. Murphy seems pretty okay, maybe you could give a little more back.
              So, Murphy is a better idea than Banuelos?

              I like the idea of Murphy, because if Kurt Suzuki gets moved (besides Suzuki is nomadic anyway and must change teams every 1-2 years), Pinto and Murphy can slug it out for C of the future. The Yanks have a bunch of middling C's to back up McCann also (Cervelli, Romine) so Murphy is a bit of a waste in the Bronx.

              How about Kevin Correia (low C) + Diamond for Murphy? Correia was brutal for me and has since been demoted to AAA, but he'd give the Yankees more SP depth which they really need. He's also in a contract year.
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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #3757
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Deuce2223
                Post this about 10 pages back but I think it got lost in the Brandon Morrow debate, However did notice AC did take time to comment on my post.

                I started a Brewers Franchise and I am looking to try and win enough to stay competitive in the division but also want to work on rebuilding a pretty sad farm system, so I am pretty content on keeping the roster intact except I would like to deal Braun before the season starts.

                Obviously I am very familiar with the M's farm system and feel like he would be a good fit there as they are in a win now mode after signing Cano, but what other teams would be a good fit.

                Boston? NY Mets?, Yankees?, Phillies? Maybe Texas?

                Spreadsheet says low A and 2 mid B's anyone want to help me out with some ideas.

                I would like to find a almost ready 3B or a MLB 3B to take over for A-Ram (figure if he can stay healthy I can move him to 1B or maybe trade him to a team that needs a DH) Also would need a OF back because they don't really have a #4 OF as it is after trading Akoi so I would need to fill Braun's spot and would like to work on improving the bullpen.
                Originally posted by Bull_Market
                What Brandon Morrow debate?

                Boston, maybe, of the teams you listed I think they have the most assets in order to pull off a fair deal. As to what those parts are? Middlebrooks+Betts+Owens?
                Originally posted by AC
                Boston: Cecchini, Owens, Swihart
                Boston alternate: Cecchini, Betts, Barnes
                New York M: Syndergaard, Nimmo, DeGrom
                New York Y: Not even close to enough pieces
                Phillies: Nope
                Texas: Gallo, Sardinas, Jackson/Gonzalez/Demeritte

                If I had to rank them:

                1. TEX
                2. NYM
                3. BOS Alernate
                4. BOS
                5. whatever Seattle would offer
                6. Yankees/Phillies
                I think some Hybrid of the BOS deals proposed above or a deal with Texas for Joey Gallo would be ideal. Brewers fans would LOVE to get Joey Gallo and that would take some sting away for those misguided cheeseheads who still love Braun. I'd use AC's Texas deal above as a starting point, but you could get more value than that for Braun. Maybe toss in Neftali Feliz to go with Gallo + Sardinas + Luke Jackson.
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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #3758
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  So, Murphy is a better idea than Banuelos?

                  I like the idea of Murphy, because if Kurt Suzuki gets moved (besides Suzuki is nomadic anyway and must change teams every 1-2 years), Pinto and Murphy can slug it out for C of the future. The Yanks have a bunch of middling C's to back up McCann also (Cervelli, Romine) so Murphy is a bit of a waste in the Bronx.

                  How about Kevin Correia (low C) + Diamond for Murphy? Correia was brutal for me and has since been demoted to AAA, but he'd give the Yankees more SP depth which they really need. He's also in a contract year.
                  Eh, Murphy is a valuable commodity, and Banuelos could probably fetch more than Diamond. I feel like you can either get Murphy and give up a better piece than Diamond and Correia, the latter of whom wouldn't be rosterable on New York, or you can settle for a lesser piece.

                  Greg Bird could work straight up for Diamond.
                  "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                  • Bull_Market
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 618

                    #3759
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                    I think some Hybrid of the BOS deals proposed above or a deal with Texas for Joey Gallo would be ideal. Brewers fans would LOVE to get Joey Gallo and that would take some sting away for those misguided cheeseheads who still love Braun. I'd use AC's Texas deal above as a starting point, but you could get more value than that for Braun. Maybe toss in Neftali Feliz to go with Gallo + Sardinas + Luke Jackson.

                    Excuse my ignorance, but is Gallo 3B ready? I think the OP wanted a MLB ready 3B to come over in the deal.
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                    • WaitTilNextYear
                      Go Cubs Go
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #3760
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by AC
                      Eh, Murphy is a valuable commodity, and Banuelos could probably fetch more than Diamond. I feel like you can either get Murphy and give up a better piece than Diamond and Correia, the latter of whom wouldn't be rosterable on New York, or you can settle for a lesser piece.

                      Greg Bird could work straight up for Diamond.
                      You know, I like this idea a lot.

                      As I said before, this is more about freeing a rotation spot than seeing how much value is humanly possible for Scott Diamond with good stats.

                      Joe Mauer looms large at 1B, but other than Mauer, Kennys Vargas and Dalton Hicks are really my only MiLB prospects at 1B with any upside. Neither of them are doing anything. Then, I have a couple of org guys like Brad Nelson etc.. Bird would immediately be my best 1B prospect. Besides, he is a 'Twins' type ballplayer too...patient, good contact, nothing flashy.

                      Bird is hitting .310/.399/.462 at AA in 145 AB in game.
                      Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 06-20-2014, 10:14 PM.
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                      • Deuce2223
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 12571

                        #3761
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Thanks for all the input. You have all given me some great ideas to start looking at.

                        I originally posted I was looking for more of a MLB ready 3B and well Gallo obviously would be great for the future, I am not sure how realistic it would be for the Rangers to part with 2 of their best 3B prospects in back to back years. I have noticed in several Franchises on the boards that every seems to want to deal for Gallo well last year it was everyone adding Olt to their roster.

                        The nice thing is A-Ram did manage to lead my team this spring with a .342 BA 6 HR's 12 RBI and a .632 SLG%, so maybe he still has something left in the tank.

                        Braun hit just .262 but did mange 6 HR's as well along with 13 RBI's.

                        I am a little nervous that Khris Davis hit just .197 and had only 1 HR, so hopefully his bat heats up quickly once the season starts.

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                        • WaitTilNextYear
                          Go Cubs Go
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #3762
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Bull_Market
                          Excuse my ignorance, but is Gallo 3B ready? I think the OP wanted a MLB ready 3B to come over in the deal.
                          It's a good point, but the OP said almost ready or MLB 3B. Gallo was promoted to AA this year, but his scouting reports and stat lines both agree that it's not going to be too much longer. Mid/late 2015 I'd guess if Adrian Beltre was not an issue.
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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #3763
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Eh, Tigers could give up Nick Castellanos+ but Castellanos isn't really special

                            Phillies could give Franco but what else do they have?

                            Piscotty is MLB ready but better in RF and the Cards' corner OF is set

                            Cecchini IS an MLB ready 3B

                            The Texas package is probably the most realistic and gives incredible value. Gallo will be ready by next season. The Cecch/Betts package is nice too. But you can't really turn down the TEX one.
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #3764
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Deuce2223
                              Thanks for all the input. You have all given me some great ideas to start looking at.

                              I originally posted I was looking for more of a MLB ready 3B and well Gallo obviously would be great for the future, I am not sure how realistic it would be for the Rangers to part with 2 of their best 3B prospects in back to back years. I have noticed in several Franchises on the boards that every seems to want to deal for Gallo well last year it was everyone adding Olt to their roster.

                              The nice thing is A-Ram did manage to lead my team this spring with a .342 BA 6 HR's 12 RBI and a .632 SLG%, so maybe he still has something left in the tank.

                              Braun hit just .262 but did mange 6 HR's as well along with 13 RBI's.

                              I am a little nervous that Khris Davis hit just .197 and had only 1 HR, so hopefully his bat heats up quickly once the season starts.
                              It'd be plenty realistic. Olt was busting hard and they have a stalwart there in Beltre who isn't moving any time soon with the exception of trade. A-Ram will certainly hold it down for another year and Gallo is a great trade target. Realism certainly isn't an issue.

                              If you're 30 teaming it, you should switch Choo to RF and Rios to CF in the event of a deal.
                              "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                              • WaitTilNextYear
                                Go Cubs Go
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 16830

                                #3765
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Deuce2223
                                Thanks for all the input. You have all given me some great ideas to start looking at.

                                I originally posted I was looking for more of a MLB ready 3B and well Gallo obviously would be great for the future, I am not sure how realistic it would be for the Rangers to part with 2 of their best 3B prospects in back to back years. I have noticed in several Franchises on the boards that every seems to want to deal for Gallo well last year it was everyone adding Olt to their roster.

                                The nice thing is A-Ram did manage to lead my team this spring with a .342 BA 6 HR's 12 RBI and a .632 SLG%, so maybe he still has something left in the tank.

                                Braun hit just .262 but did mange 6 HR's as well along with 13 RBI's.

                                I am a little nervous that Khris Davis hit just .197 and had only 1 HR, so hopefully his bat heats up quickly once the season starts.
                                Pick the one you want, but I wouldn't rule out the Texas deal based on them trading too many prospects. These guys are all blocked by the ageless Adrian Beltre, too...

                                Believe me, by the time Texas decided to deal Olt, he was no longer among their top prospects. He's batting .152 for the Cubs. This guy is really not panning out at all.
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