MLB The Show Trade Discussion Thread

[kinsmen7]

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Mariners get Javier Baez. Cubs receive Brandon Williamson.

Trade simulator has this listed as a bit of an overpay on the Mariners part.


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How are the Mariners doing in-season? They're still rebuilding, so unless they're in contention, they probably wouldn't make this move. They could just grab one of the "Baez/Story/Correa/etc." shortstop class of 2022.

[kinsmen7]

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Cardinals franchise here ...
I have DeLong struggling for me , 2 months into the season. Looking to trade for another SS.
Correa for the Stros and Ketel Marte for Diamondbacks would would accept trade. Which one should I do... or neither? And who would you try and trade for?

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Marte is under team control for 4 more years. His value is $46.3 mil. If the D'Backs are struggling, I could see them being willing to move him if someone came along and overpaid a bit. That's a ridiculously tough division.

Ari:
Marte

STL:
Liberatore
Walker
O'Neill
Winn

It's an absolute haul for the D'Backs, and an overpay of about $3.5 mil, but Marte is young, cheap and productive. The Astros won't trade Correa unless they're well out of it. I'd assume they'd prefer to make a run at re-signing him in the offseason. If they are out of it, his value is $35.8. That's an awful lot to pay for less than one year of Correa.

[kinsmen7]

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I’ve started a franchise with Toronto and it hasn’t gone too well in year 1. Currently last in the AL East and 2nd last in the wildcard standings.

One guy I want to move but I’m not sure if he has any value is Randall Grichuk. He has two years left after this year and he isn’t horrible, but I’m not a big fan of his and would like to run a Gurriel, Springer, Hernandez outfield leaving the DH spot for someone else. He is having a much better year in real life than in my franchise where his stats are as followed: 87 games, 13 hr, 45 rbi, .234 avg, .728 ops, 0.1 war, 76 OVR.

Can anybody think of a team that could use him? I looked quickly through and thought the Cubs, Pirates, Rockies, O’s or Tigers might be ok spots. I would definitely not be looking for much back, I would be ok with a lottery ticket or taking on a similar contract with less years left on it. (For example, I was looking at sending him to the Mets for Jeruys Famila since Conforto is out for the year in my franchise, but I’m not sure if that’s the best fit after this year)

It won’t let me search this thread for some reason so I apologize if Grichuk has been brought up before.

Thanks

As someone else here said, Randal is likely sticking with the Jays for the duration of the contract. I actually pulled a Jeurys for Randal swap in a playthrough a while back, but regretted it about a week later. The Mets have Conforto, Stroman, Syndergaard, and whoever else to try to re-sign in the offseason. Grich's contract isn't horrible...it's just too long.

The only way to move him is to attach prospects to him. If you're sitting in 5th, that's probably not a great move. I'd personally just let him ride it out as a bench bat, and use your money in the offseason (Jays have a whole bunch of guys expiring and should have a decent amount of money freed up) to upgrade elsewhere.

If you're really sold on selling him, his baseballtradevalues.com value is -$6.8, but that's based on his solid play so far in 2021. I'd probably peg him at his opening day value, which was -$11-12ish. I don't think anyone really goes crazy on a bad contract swap, so maybe find someone worth -$3ish, and send them Hiraldo. Gotta give them some incentive to make a move.

[kinsmen7]

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I'm just getting to May so its not clear if i'll be in the race or not but...

I was potentially looking at adding Story. It probably won't be the right move since I feel like I'll need a starter more than a bat. I have a platoon of Bote/Duffy/Sogard at 2nd currently; Bote got off to a horrible start but his BA has risen slowly, Duffy has been solid but I like him more in a reserve role and Sogard has hit but hasn't had enough at bats to know if it will last. I sent Hoerner to the minors but he hasn't hit well there so I don't want to call him up to fail. unless he goes on a tear in May and June looks like he'll be a late season guy I doubt I'll keep this core together after this season so why not add another expiring contract that I won't resign.

I have a roster that came out before Ridin's was done so I have some prospects that but also have a mix of created ones. I was thinking about potentially including Bote in the deal as he does offer a low cost, longer contract but with him hitting poorly would that really add much to matching Story's surplus? would i need to add 2 top 5/10 prospects in my system or maybe 1 and a mid level farm hand? I figured if I need one more bat Story could potentially finish the year at 2nd or I have him at 3rd when Bryant is in the OF.

I like the agressiveness. Cubs farm is pretty weak, so without knowing who the players are, it obviously makes it tough. They *Should* be looking for prospects for him. Howard is probably too good of a prospect to send, but with Hernandez and Preciado in the system, they could afford to move him.

COL:
Story ($23.8)

CHC:
Howard ($18 mil)
Roederer ($6.3 mil)

If you really want to spice it up, and Bote (CHC) and Gray (COL)...Cubs make a tiny underpay, but it makes a bit more sense as to why you'd include Howard. If you don't have Howard, find a 17-18-19 year old, 60ish Overall 90+ potential SS in your system if you have one.

[Beastboy2335]

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in my 2nd franchise, prob my long term one (tigers) saw shane bieber in trade block so used trade finder offer. i was debating if i should try but he is 26, by the time im good he should still be in his prime. the offer was sp boyd, 3b torkelson and ss castro. i have another 3b prospect however he is a ways away ( 89 potential and currently 60 ovr at 19 yrs old).

does that make sense for them. i thought about a top level sp prospect instead of boyd but need some advice on that offer or another. . they are first place right now right after the draft so boyd kind of makes sense but if it would be more fair to send sp manning , i would do that.

it is the same division so trying to keep it somewhat realistic

There isn't one bit of realism that would see Bieber on an in-division squad if Cleveland is in 1st, BUT if you wanted to push the envelope, he would cost you your top 5 Assets- Torkelson, Manning, Greene, Skubal, Mize (No, that isn't a joke. His value is 220 on the trade sim, those 5 equate to approximately 221) . In all reality, if they trade him at all in your franchise, you should send him back to them.

[kinsmen7]

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There isn't one bit of realism that would see Bieber on an in-division squad if Cleveland is in 1st, BUT if you wanted to push the envelope, he would cost you your top 5 Assets- Torkelson, Manning, Greene, Skubal, Mize (No, that isn't a joke. His value is 220 on the trade sim, those 5 equate to approximately 221) . In all reality, if they trade him at all in your franchise, you should send him back to them.

100%. Bieber's value will drop once he hits arbitration and his contract starts to get more expensive. The Cleveland's have shown that they have very little willingness to pay exorbatant amounts of money to their players at any point. If he gets moved, it's no sooner than the 2022 trade deadline, and even at that point, his value is still likely somewhere in the $100 range, and he'd likely not be available in-division unless their was a significant overpay.

[pickle2002]

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As someone else here said, Randal is likely sticking with the Jays for the duration of the contract. I actually pulled a Jeurys for Randal swap in a playthrough a while back, but regretted it about a week later. The Mets have Conforto, Stroman, Syndergaard, and whoever else to try to re-sign in the offseason. Grich's contract isn't horrible...it's just too long.

The only way to move him is to attach prospects to him. If you're sitting in 5th, that's probably not a great move. I'd personally just let him ride it out as a bench bat, and use your money in the offseason (Jays have a whole bunch of guys expiring and should have a decent amount of money freed up) to upgrade elsewhere.

If you're really sold on selling him, his baseballtradevalues.com value is -$6.8, but that's based on his solid play so far in 2021. I'd probably peg him at his opening day value, which was -$11-12ish. I don't think anyone really goes crazy on a bad contract swap, so maybe find someone worth -$3ish, and send them Hiraldo. Gotta give them some incentive to make a move.

After reading both replies, I agree and I think I’ll just keep Grichuk until his contract is up. I like the idea of having him being a power bat off the bench instead of starting everyday.

Another guy I wanted to ask about is Ross Stripling. I know he isn’t the sexiest of names but he has been pretty good for me in my franchise with a 3.74 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 1.6 WAR, 3.77 FIP in 18 starts (96.1 innings). I think those are decent numbers for a back of the rotation starter, and he still has 1 year of control left. Some teams that are contending that could use a SP are Red Sox, Athletics, Phillies and Indians. What could I get back in return for him, considering he is having a not bad year and has another arb year left?

[Ryanreeser]

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After reading both replies, I agree and I think I’ll just keep Grichuk until his contract is up. I like the idea of having him being a power bat off the bench instead of starting everyday.

Another guy I wanted to ask about is Ross Stripling. I know he isn’t the sexiest of names but he has been pretty good for me in my franchise with a 3.74 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 1.6 WAR, 3.77 FIP in 18 starts (96.1 innings). I think those are decent numbers for a back of the rotation starter, and he still has 1 year of control left. Some teams that are contending that could use a SP are Red Sox, Athletics, Phillies and Indians. What could I get back in return for him, considering he is having a not bad year and has another arb year left?

Maybe a C potential 60 ovr young piece. But other than that. Maybe not

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[kinsmen7]

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After reading both replies, I agree and I think I’ll just keep Grichuk until his contract is up. I like the idea of having him being a power bat off the bench instead of starting everyday.

Another guy I wanted to ask about is Ross Stripling. I know he isn’t the sexiest of names but he has been pretty good for me in my franchise with a 3.74 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 1.6 WAR, 3.77 FIP in 18 starts (96.1 innings). I think those are decent numbers for a back of the rotation starter, and he still has 1 year of control left. Some teams that are contending that could use a SP are Red Sox, Athletics, Phillies and Indians. What could I get back in return for him, considering he is having a not bad year and has another arb year left?

Hard to place a value on someone that is performing better than they are IRL, but if his numbers are around his career average, you probably get back someone slightly less good than what the team gave up for him in the first place (2 prospects at the bottom of an orgs top 30). Fringy mid-70's potential guys IMO.

[Jayyoungjr]

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I like the agressiveness. Cubs farm is pretty weak, so without knowing who the players are, it obviously makes it tough. They *Should* be looking for prospects for him. Howard is probably too good of a prospect to send, but with Hernandez and Preciado in the system, they could afford to move him.

COL:
Story ($23.8)

CHC:
Howard ($18 mil)
Roederer ($6.3 mil)

If you really want to spice it up, and Bote (CHC) and Gray (COL)...Cubs make a tiny underpay, but it makes a bit more sense as to why you'd include Howard. If you don't have Howard, find a 17-18-19 year old, 60ish Overall 90+ potential SS in your system if you have one.

Thanks for this, I do have Howard, Preciado and Hernandez in my franchise. That gives me something to think about. Losing Howard would be tough but since I plan on trying to resign Baez I should have short squared away for a number of years and will likely have Hoerner at second for 21' and beyond.

We'll see how things shake out the rest of May and June and see where I stand.

[dubplate]

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How are the Mariners doing in-season? They're still rebuilding, so unless they're in contention, they probably wouldn't make this move. They could just grab one of the "Baez/Story/Correa/etc." shortstop class of 2022.

Yeah, I wound up trading for Story (and will be resigning him) to speed up my rebuild a bit.

I wound up trading Cal Raleigh, Brandon Williamson, and Taylor Trammell for him.


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[saintrules]

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Say I hypothetically wanted to improve the White Sox's farm or pickup another contributor for a WS run...how would you all go about it?

[PikesPeakUC]

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Say I hypothetically wanted to improve the White Sox's farm or pickup another contributor for a WS run...how would you all go about it?

Like GamecocksLaw mentioned earlier, BaseballTradeValues is a great resource.

My rules are pretty simple. When I'm trying to improve my major league team, I only trade for trade block guys or veteran guys on expensive or one year deals.

For trading away for prospects, it's the trade values website for me.


I just finished my first season with the Reds and my big trades were bringing back Curt Casali and grabbing Donavon Solano from a struggling Giants team in exchange for prospects. I try to only pull off realistic deals.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Say I hypothetically wanted to improve the White Sox's farm or pickup another contributor for a WS run...how would you all go about it?

You could really improve your farm by trading away guys like Robert, Eloy, Giolito, Tim Anderson. But anything like that will really hurt your current roster.

You could make a move to improve your WS odds by looking at selling teams that have players that match up with your weaknesses. But you have to realize if you try to trade for anybody that you would consider a "star" you would have to include Vaughn, Kopech, Madrigal or Crochet as the main piece. The issue you may run into is all the best prospects for the White Sox are MLB ready. You don't really have guys in AA that you could trade for a real impact player

[pbie]

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I'm looking to trade Dansby Swanson at the end of the season. He will be in his last arbitration year before free agency. Any idea of what the return should be?

I was thinking a mid 60 C Pot starter or 70ish C Pot reliever and a mid 60 C Pot bench bat.

Thoughts?