MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

[bloodwerth]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

LOL you do realize that every site that has pitch f/x has yearly totals as well? It would take no longer to look at yearly data than it does career data. Give me 24 hours and I'll post a spreadsheet with all pitch types corrected for all 30 teams. If I can do it by myself in one day, SCEA should be able to do it as well

You can do NL, I'll do AL + Astros, and we'll be done in half the time.

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

You can do NL, I'll do AL + Astros, and we'll be done in half the time.

I'm doing it alphabetically, If you want I can post my spreadsheet and you can do #'s 332-662, I'm using Brooks Baseball's pitch classifications and f/x data, I have a little over 10% completed and I've been doing it for 3 hours on and off

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

What are you guys doing with pitchers that have just two pitch types but in the game must have three?

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

What are you guys doing with pitchers that have just two pitch types but in the game must have three?

give em an extra fastball - ex. If player X has a 2-seam & slider, give him a sinker with the exact same ratings as his 2-seam; If he has a 4-seam and a curve, give him a running fastball with no movement

That way It will still seem like Player X only has a two pitch repertoire, because two of his three pitches will almost be identical, and the slight variance in movement is something that happens in real life as well

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

give em an extra fastball - ex. If player X has a 2-seam & slider, give him a sinker with the exact same ratings as his 2-seam; If he has a 4-seam and a curve, give him a running fastball with no movement

That way It will still seem like Player X only has a two pitch repertoire, because two of his three pitches will almost be identical, and the slight variance in movement is something that happens in real life as well

I don't know why they have it so every pitcher must have 3 pitch types, but your workaround sounds good to me. Are you posting it in this thread or somewhere else?

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

I don't know why they have it so every pitcher must have 3 pitch types, but your workaround sounds good to me. Are you posting it in this thread or somewhere else?

probably this thread

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

probably this thread

Would be great if SCEA implemented it into a roster update. Would also be great if they let us delete a third pitch type that isn't used. Anyway, I for one certainly appreciate what you guys plan to do and look forward to seeing it materialize.

I don't suppose you're doing the minors, as that would be way too much work. I would be quite happy just seeing the majors done, anything beyond that to me is a bonus.

[bloodwerth]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

I'm doing it alphabetically, If you want I can post my spreadsheet and you can do #'s 332-662, I'm using Brooks Baseball's pitch classifications and f/x data, I have a little over 10% completed and I've been doing it for 3 hours on and off

If I was just going on spring break instead of getting ready to go back tomorrow, god yes. I know it'll sound hollow, especially when you get to #400 and still have a ton of names to go through, but I will totally do this with you next year. Kinda new here and feeling my way around.

On that note, how do you guys incorporate these sorts of updated rosters with a top prospects roster? Exporting all the prospects and doing it that way?

Would be great if SCEA implemented it into a roster update. Would also be great if they let us delete a third pitch type that isn't used. Anyway, I for one certainly appreciate what you guys plan to do and look forward to seeing it materialize.

I don't suppose you're doing the minors, as that would be way too much work. I would be quite happy just seeing the majors done, anything beyond that to me is a bonus.

Full Minors. My question is this: when Knight (or whomever imports the final file of all the minor leaguers) submits his final roster, will he be importing it onto the file with the major league pitch corrections being made here?

[Qb]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

On that note, how do you guys incorporate these sorts of updated rosters with a top prospects roster? Exporting all the prospects and doing it that way?

In the past, someone (or a small group) compiled the data first -- as seanjeezy is doing now -- then manually edited each player using the completed OSFM roster. Usually this was done after someone else had added stance/delivery edits and also equipment edits for MLB players. This is why we'd have three or four versions of the roster by the summer.

1. OSFM (created MiLB players, no edits to SCEA/MLB players)
2. #1 w/ updated stances & deliveries for non-CAPs
3. #2 w/ equipment edits
4. #3 w/ pitch edits
5. #4 w/ ratings changes for position players & pitchers (later in season)

Each version builds on the work of the previous one(s), so if done properly, it can take some time. The best thing anyone interested in an extensive editing project can do now is get their stuff organized (as seanjeezy is doing) so they're ready to go when the times comes to do the data entry.

Full Minors. My question is this: when Knight (or whomever imports the final file of all the minor leaguers) submits his final roster, will he be importing it onto the file with the major league pitch corrections being made here?

It depends on if/when SCEA makes any changes. I believe Knight is tentatively planning on importing all the CAPs into SCEA's first regular season roster update. However, if the creation process is complete in advance of OD, using the current SCEA roster for an early release is a possibility.

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Just checking in - I've got about 30% done, once I get my last final over with, I should be able to kick the speed up a notch, probably finish up by Friday

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Just checking in - I've got about 30% done, once I get my last final over with, I should be able to kick the speed up a notch, probably finish up by Friday

Sounds great, and thanks!

[The Frankman]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Player Name: Mike Pelfrey
What Pitch needs to be added:
Two Seamer
Curveball (this has bugged me, he always had a curve)
Split Fingered Fastball

What Pitch needs to be removed:
Sinker (his sinker doesn't move enough and isn't a true sinker)
Changeup (incorrectly labeled, he throws a SF fastball and has for two years now)

Proof:
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/1/2...-of-their-life

More proof alluding to his two seamer instead of sinker: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...lopment-projec

[Jason_19]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Player Name: Mike Pelfrey
What Pitch needs to be added:
Two Seamer
Curveball (this has bugged me, he always had a curve)
Split Fingered Fastball

What Pitch needs to be removed:
Sinker (his sinker doesn't move enough and isn't a true sinker)
Changeup (incorrectly labeled, he throws a SF fastball and has for two years now)

Proof:
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/1/2...-of-their-life

More proof alluding to his two seamer instead of sinker: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...lopment-projec

His two-seam fastball moves more like a sinker does on The Show.

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxg.as...11&date=0&dh=0

With that being said, it's clear that what he said about his "sinker" often moving more like a 2 seam fastball is true. But The Show can not replicate this without giving him a 2 seam fastball.

[hb5239799]

QUESTION: How are you all determining Break and Control, aside from Speed for these pitch edits? My apologies if I missed any earlier explanations on this. Thanks!

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[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

QUESTION: How are you all determining Break and Control, aside from Speed for these pitch edits? My apologies if I missed any earlier explanations on this. Thanks!

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When i finish compiling data, i'll have velocity and movement, control is just too hard to rate; I would just use SCEA's control ratings, since most edits are just reassignments based on the type of movement, like changing a 4sb to a Rfb

On a side note, movement is much more organic this year, just faced Ogando using the default rosters, and his 4SB had visually a little run when thrown outside, even though the OSD shows no movement. When thrown down and in, his slider had movement similar to how a slurve moves in the game, when it was up it flattened out.