HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

[mlblover15]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

ok Obviously i cant now go back into my st games and give stat from using your sliders but i can give you the first three games against Boston im the A's obvoiusly lol

i dont seee how you are all complaining about not giving up hits and or extra base hits cause ive given up a ton over three games in my season.. maybe you all need to change your pitching approach...

Game #1

BOS 5  9 2
OAK 8 11 0

BOS HITTING

2B - pedoroia, ramirez

HR - ramirez 2, lowell

Game #2

BOS 6 11 0
OAK 3  6 0 

Boston hitting 

2B - ramirez

HR - ramirez 2, drew, varitek

Game #3 (just played)

BOS 5 7 0 
OAK 2 6 0 

Boston hitting

2B - Ortiz, ramirez, Varitek, Ellsbury

HR - lowell

as you can see in just three games i have given up quite a few "extra" base hits. i pitch everything down in the zone never up unless it is a mistake by me and i use meter pitching with your sliders.. so anyone not giving up a couple of doubles a game or not giving up hits inteh game either your just way too good at the game and it happens. or you may just need to change your pitching approach... maybe it isnt just with Nem's sliders that this is happening to anyone but i just thought id drop these heire to let eveyone know that im drowning but again Oakland is supposed to this year so... lol

[nemesis04]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

ok Obviously i cant now go back into my st games and give stat from using your sliders but i can give you the first three games against Boston im the A's obvoiusly lol

i dont seee how you are all complaining about not giving up hits and or extra base hits cause ive given up a ton over three games in my season.. maybe you all need to change your pitching approach...

Game #1

BOS 5  9 2
OAK 8 11 0

BOS HITTING

2B - pedoroia, ramirez

HR - ramirez 2, lowell

Game #2

BOS 6 11 0
OAK 3  6 0 

Boston hitting 

2B - ramirez

HR - ramirez 2, drew, varitek

Game #3 (just played)

BOS 5 7 0 
OAK 2 6 0 

Boston hitting

2B - Ortiz, ramirez, Varitek, Ellsbury

HR - lowell

as you can see in just three games i have given up quite a few "extra" base hits. i pitch everything down in the zone never up unless it is a mistake by me and i use meter pitching with your sliders.. so anyone not giving up a couple of doubles a game or not giving up hits inteh game either your just way too good at the game and it happens. or you may just need to change your pitching approach... maybe it isnt just with Nem's sliders that this is happening to anyone but i just thought id drop these heire to let eveyone know that im drowning but again Oakland is supposed to this year so... lol

Thanks for the feedback. Those score/hit ratios are believable! I have an adjusted set coming out this weekend and they are very hard! Many will struggle.

[JT30]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nem

I am noticing that the timing slider for HUMAN has a big effect on making contact. As a test, I have been playing with pitch speed at +10. With the timing slider at -3 to -10 from default, I am having a heck of a time striking out less than 6 times a game. However, when the slider is -2 to default, I am making plenty of contact and striking out less but the hits are still going to the opposite field because I'm late quite a bit. So then I tried jacking the timing all the way to +10 and I hit just about everything, but again, everything mostly to the opposite field.

I dont think you play with pitch speed so high, but are you seeing that the timing slider has a big effect on whether we make contact or not?

[The Bimmer]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nemesis,

I just wanted to let you know and everyone else reading through this thread that I am getting the same results as MLBLover15 is. I statred with your base set and tweaked alittle, nothing extreme except the CPU plate disipline is at +5. I have had games were I have shut down the CPU and times were they mowed me down. I am on All-Star level, and have went 10-10 over my last 20 games, and 17-16 overall. I will be looking to see what that final set is gonna look like. Through 33 games my stats look like this:

Batting
AVE-.278
2B-...54
3B....6(Crawford has 4 of them)
HR....37
BB....49
K.....278
SB...29
SB%....733

Pitching
ERA..4.82
BB....73
K......211
2B....61
3B....9(This should be lower, due to bad throwing decisions)
HR....39
SB....17
SB%..829

[The Bimmer]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nem

I am noticing that the timing slider for HUMAN has a big effect on making contact. As a test, I have been playing with pitch speed at +10. With the timing slider at -3 to -10 from default, I am having a heck of a time striking out less than 6 times a game. However, when the slider is -2 to default, I am making plenty of contact and striking out less but the hits are still going to the opposite field because I'm late quite a bit. So then I tried jacking the timing all the way to +10 and I hit just about everything, but again, everything mostly to the opposite field.

I dont think you play with pitch speed so high, but are you seeing that the timing slider has a big effect on whether we make contact or not?

I was having the same issue but it was the opposite, I was pulling everything that the CPU threw. Now I had pitch speed at default when this was happening, and I raised the speed to +3 and now if I am late it goes the other way. Imo pitch speed will correct this, maybe +10 is to much for you at this point. I would suggest timing at -3, and pitch speed at +5 for ONE 9 inning game.

[nemesis04]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nem

I am noticing that the timing slider for HUMAN has a big effect on making contact. As a test, I have been playing with pitch speed at +10. With the timing slider at -3 to -10 from default, I am having a heck of a time striking out less than 6 times a game. However, when the slider is -2 to default, I am making plenty of contact and striking out less but the hits are still going to the opposite field because I'm late quite a bit. So then I tried jacking the timing all the way to +10 and I hit just about everything, but again, everything mostly to the opposite field.

I dont think you play with pitch speed so high, but are you seeing that the timing slider has a big effect on whether we make contact or not?

The timing window slider is like adding or subtracting slices of time which affects your ability to make contact. It does not seem to affect opposite field hits at all. So bringing it below default would make your available window of contact smaller, making it harder to hit.

[nemesis04]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nemesis,

I just wanted to let you know and everyone else reading through this thread that I am getting the same results as MLBLover15 is. I statred with your base set and tweaked alittle, nothing extreme except the CPU plate disipline is at +5. I have had games were I have shut down the CPU and times were they mowed me down. I am on All-Star level, and have went 10-10 over my last 20 games, and 17-16 overall. I will be looking to see what that final set is gonna look like. Through 33 games my stats look like this:

Batting
AVE-.278
2B-...54
3B....6(Crawford has 4 of them)
HR....37
BB....49
K.....278
SB...29
SB%....733

Pitching
ERA..4.82
BB....73
K......211
2B....61
3B....9(This should be lower, due to bad throwing decisions)
HR....39
SB....17
SB%..829

You have some good stats there Bimmer! You have come a long way with this game! Good to see!!

[gotigers15]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Nem, are the sliders on the first page completely updated online as they are in the post?

[nemesis04]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Nem, are the sliders on the first page completely updated online as they are in the post?

These are the most current ones but I have another tweaked set that I will release this weekend. The only one that is on Sports connect is the one in the first post.

Default is treated as 0

Human

Starting pitcher fatigue: 0
Relief pitcher fatigue: -3
Pitch Movement: -3
Pitch Command: -10
Wild Pitch Frequency: -5
Set 1 [Hit Quality: -10 / Power: +1]
Set 2 [Hit Quality: -8 / Power: +1]
Set 3 [Hit Quality: -6 / Power: +2]
Plate Vision: -3
Throw Strength: -2
Throw Accuracy: -2
Fielder Speed: -4
Passed Ball frequency: -5
Injury Frequency: +2
Timing Window:-2
Foul Tip %: -8 (not convinced it works)
Base runner Speed:+1
Ground ball Error Frequency: +6
Fly ball Error Frequency: +3
Throwing Error Frequency: +1

CPU

Pitcher Aggressiveness: -10
Pickoff Frequency: +1
Hit Quality: +10
Power: +2
Batter Plate Discipline: -5
Throw Strength: +5
Throw Accuracy: -2
Fielder Reaction time: -10
Base Running Aggressiveness:-3
Base Stealing Aggressiveness: +2
Stolen Base Frequency: +2
Injury Frequency: +2
Manager Hook: +5
Pitch Control: -4
Pitch Movement: +6
Strike %: -4
Timing Window: 0 (Does not affect the cpu, leave at default)
Foul Tip %: -8 (Not convinced it works)
Base running Speed: -2
Ground ball error Frequency: +6
Fly ball Error Frequency: +4
Throwing Error Frequency: +1

Global

Pitch Speed: 0
Umpire Consistency: -3
Pitch Count: +5
Wind: +3

[gotigers15]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

One more thing, Nem -- have you decided if the random User offensive outbursts (i.e. 17-4) have been limited to rarely happening? Just curious.

[mota0]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

I've only played 2 games with these sliders, but they are a dramatic improvement.

I was slowly tweaking my own sliders, and really wasn't getting anywhere.
My problems:
-my batting average was too high
-CPU wasn't hitting for average or power
-lack of walks & errors on both sides

I was hesitant about the switch to classic pitching, but it's been ok.

Played 2 games with a drafted franchise:
Game1: come from behind 6-3 win
Game2: my starter got hammered, pitched almost 100 pitches in 4 innings...and I lost 7-2

thanks for the work, I'm enjoying this game now!

[tree3five]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

The timing window slider is like adding or subtracting slices of time which affects your ability to make contact. It does not seem to affect opposite field hits at all. So bringing it below default would make your available window of contact smaller, making it harder to hit.

Nemisis, would bringing the timing window a few clicks above default help with doubles then? WOuld you then make better contact to hit it in the gaps more? thanks

[nemesis04]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Nemisis, would bringing the timing window a few clicks above default help with doubles then? WOuld you then make better contact to hit it in the gaps more? thanks

It would give you more contact time for hits and raise totals but it would not improve the quality of the hits. That needs to be done with the hit quality slider and power slider.

[tree3five]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

It would give you more contact time for hits and raise totals but it would not improve the quality of the hits. That needs to be done with the hit quality slider and power slider.

excellent, My biggest problem is not enough doubles. I get on avg about 10 hits a game with maybe one double a game if that. I have hit quality at -8 and power at +2, should I raise these then to get more doubles? thanks

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

Hey Nemesis,

I just wanted to let you know and everyone else reading through this thread that I am getting the same results as MLBLover15 is. I statred with your base set and tweaked alittle, nothing extreme except the CPU plate disipline is at +5. I have had games were I have shut down the CPU and times were they mowed me down. I am on All-Star level, and have went 10-10 over my last 20 games, and 17-16 overall. I will be looking to see what that final set is gonna look like. Through 33 games my stats look like this:

Batting
AVE-.278
2B-...54
3B....6(Crawford has 4 of them)
HR....37
BB....49
K.....278
SB...29
SB%....733

Pitching
ERA..4.82
BB....73
K......211
2B....61
3B....9(This should be lower, due to bad throwing decisions)
HR....39
SB....17
SB%..829

why play these on all-star if there meant to be played on HOF?