Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[forme95]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Wow, is all I can say. I cant believe how much I depended on the screen overlays till I watched one of your steams and decided to clean screen my games. What a difference!!! I really had to relearn my whole gameplay. Everything is clean except I left the pitch ball trail on. Just till I can get a better feel. Great sliders, and great way to play, even if its RTTS, this is still the best set to play with. Very challenging, and very real. Thanks for the great hard work you put in.

[wiser66]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

How is anybody stealing any bases using these sliders? I can't steal anything for the life of me. Should I auto steal or manual? Tips?

[JoshC1977]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

How is anybody stealing any bases using these sliders? I can't steal anything for the life of me. Should I auto steal or manual? Tips?

Absolutely....but it is a cat-and-mouse game. You really have to try to time it when you expect the pitcher to throw a breaking ball or change. Taking a big lead can obviously help, but if the pitcher has the pickoff artist quirk, be careful.

[Steelers23]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

When you play online (br, head to head, etc) do you change the sliders to a default or does it not matter?

[VincesVictims]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

What kind of injuries are you guys getting. I am afraid to raise the slider up i hate losing guys for a long time. But I do want some injuries

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[Mega0862]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Would Armor's sliders work just fine with Meter or Analog pitching?


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[strosguy07]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Would Armor's sliders work just fine with Meter or Analog pitching?


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I tried Meter pitching and I was just dominating every game. I changed to Classic and it's much more of a challenge

[strosguy07]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

How are y'all hitting homeruns? I can't hit homeruns to save my life!

Any tips?

[Mega0862]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I tried Meter pitching and I was just dominating every game. I changed to Classic and it's much more of a challenge

Were you using meter with a clean screen? I've never used anything but analog. I'm hesitant with classic, I feel like I have no control over the outcome of each pitch.


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[VincesVictims]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Is anyone playing with the cpu contact on 6. I'm thinking about testing it out. Last year it worked great there. I am a month and a half in to the season and I have the best era in the league. I'm the Braves and definitely don't think my pitching staff is good enough to lead the league.

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[Haansen]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

When you play online (br, head to head, etc) do you change the sliders to a default or does it not matter?

I assume it does not matter since there are no slider options in the pause menu during online play or DD games. Guess this will all be default sliders

[JoshC1977]

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Were you using meter with a clean screen? I've never used anything but analog. I'm hesitant with classic, I feel like I have no control over the outcome of each pitch.

You are correct in that it is far more 'ratings-based' than other methods of pitching.

That said, you definitely have some control over pitch outcome. How long you hold the button matters. It affects pitch speed, command, and the amount of break on breaking pitches. It just isn't 'push a button and go'...there is far more subtlety in it. In fact, if you simply tap the button, it is an excellent way to get shelled.

When pitching in classic, you have about a 1 second time period before you get the controller vibration (i.e. max-effort). The following are my observations...

Max effort pitches (holding the button down till the vibration) result in the following:

• More velocity
• Less control
• A sharper break on breaking pitches
• Pitches tend to rise more

Minimum effort pitches (tapping the button) results in the following:

• Less velocity
• Better control
• "Loopier" breaking balls (especially curves/sliders)
• Pitches sink more (due to lower velo) - changeups will pretty constantly wind up in the dirt

In many cases, an "intermediate" duration is optimal. However, you can vary this from pitch to pitch (i.e. like a pitcher adding/subtracting from the speed of the pitch). This is a tremendous way to keep hitters off-balance to help to avoid them getting solid contact/timing.


This is just a basic overview...I'm sure there are more subtleties involved.

[JoshC1977]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

How are y'all hitting homeruns? I can't hit homeruns to save my life!

Any tips?

Are you constantly ahead or behind on pitches? You might need to tweak the pitch speed sliders a bit to your personal timing. I was constantly behind on everything with Armor's 5 FB speed/7 offspeed speed. I dropped both by 1 and it got my personal timing more in-line.

Waiting for 'your pitch' is also critical. Milk the counts and don't be afraid to take a strike or two. Also pay attention to player quirks...some guys are better on FBs, some on breaking balls.

Also, use the power swing sparingly...you can/will hit plenty with normal swing once you get your timing down.

[Mega0862]

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You are correct in that it is far more 'ratings-based' than other methods of pitching.

That said, you definitely have some control over pitch outcome. How long you hold the button matters. It affects pitch speed, command, and the amount of break on breaking pitches. It just isn't 'push a button and go'...there is far more subtlety in it. In fact, if you simply tap the button, it is an excellent way to get shelled.

When pitching in classic, you have about a 1 second time period before you get the controller vibration (i.e. max-effort). The following are my observations...

Max effort pitches (holding the button down till the vibration) result in the following:

• More velocity
• Less control
• A sharper break on breaking pitches
• Pitches tend to rise more

Minimum effort pitches (tapping the button) results in the following:

• Less velocity
• Better control
• "Loopier" breaking balls (especially curves/sliders)
• Pitches sink more (due to lower velo) - changeups will pretty constantly wind up in the dirt

In many cases, an "intermediate" duration is optimal. However, you can vary this from pitch to pitch (i.e. like a pitcher adding/subtracting from the speed of the pitch). This is a tremendous way to keep hitters off-balance to help to avoid them getting solid contact/timing.


This is just a basic overview...I'm sure there are more subtleties involved.

Thanks for all the insight. I'm going to give it a try tonight with these sliders.


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[Mega0862]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I'm coming from zone hitting with the PCI and buttons. So I'm sure the directional hitting will take some time to get a hang of.


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