A-Rod to Opt Out

[ehh]

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The Giants would be a great fit for A-ROD! They have the money and he's the perfect replacement for Bonds. Since Giants mgmt only cares about filling the seats I can totally see them going after him.

Ha, A-Rod would fit in well in SF. He'd be in the exact same situation (or worse) than he was while in Texas. That seems to be where he's suited best!

[dl2518]

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Ha, A-Rod would fit in well in SF. He'd be in the exact same situation (or worse) than he was while in Texas. That seems to be where he's suited best!

Yeah and the Giants would be in the same situation they have been in for the last 15 years too! One great player and a bunch of scrubs!

[ComfortablyLomb]

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I think the rest of the AL is loving the Hank era in Yankeeland so far. It's like he has an amplified version of all of Larry Luccino's personality problems.

I bet Boras isn't though. It sounds like the Yankees won't be suitors and I'm sure team Boras was counting on them to jack up the price tag.

[ckarlic]

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Hmm..i wonder if Boras doesnt live up to his promises to Arod if Arod would ever consider firing him. Im sure Boras told Arod something about how much more he could make by opting out..Would be funny if Arod is forced to accept less than he would have going somewhere else besides the Yankees if other teams cant afford that much.

[ehh]

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I think the rest of the AL is loving the Hank era in Yankeeland so far.

I'm not so sure they should be. It's still early, but I think both moves (Torre and A-Rod) are smart for the future. Initially we'll obviously suffer from A-Rod's loss and we may not make the playoffs in '08, but the Yankees' FO is looking at the big picture for the first time in a long time which is not something the AL should be loving.

Heck, even the Red Sox went through a mini-version of that as they didn't even make the playoffs last year. People were killing Theo for Crisp, Lugo, Drew, Clement, and even Beckett looked like a questionable move after his '06 season. He let Pedro and Damon go which were also questioned.

It's way too early to judge how these moves will work out long term, but I don't think opposing fans should be celebrating unless their only goal is to see the Yankees not make the playoffs in '08. The Yankees haven't had the best team in baseball since '03, IMO, but are headed back in that direction.

[ehh]

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Hmm..i wonder if Boras doesnt live up to his promises to Arod if Arod would ever consider firing him. Im sure Boras told Arod something about how much more he could make by opting out..Would be funny if Arod is forced to accept less than he would have going somewhere else besides the Yankees if other teams cant afford that much.

It would be a bit funny, but there's zero chance it happens.

[ehh]

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LOL @ all these angry Yankee fans calling the FAN and saying they hope A-Rod's name is in Mitchell's report when it gets released in the not-so-distant future.

[ckarlic]

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LOL @ all these angry Yankee fans calling the FAN and saying they hope A-Rod's name is in Mitchell's report when it gets released in the not-so-distant future.

Yeah that is quite funny...you never know though

[SPTO]

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Hmm..i wonder if Boras doesnt live up to his promises to Arod if Arod would ever consider firing him. Im sure Boras told Arod something about how much more he could make by opting out..Would be funny if Arod is forced to accept less than he would have going somewhere else besides the Yankees if other teams cant afford that much.

Yeah, I don't think Boras has ever been out-maneuvered before but this is a pretty risky move. I doubt A-rod would fire him but it'd be funny as hell if he has to accept a deal that's less lucrative then the one he had with the Yanks.

[Wootabilitydotcom]

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People need to stop saying that the fans had anything to do with this. He could have been showered with love every day for four years and he would have opted out. The fans did not "bring this upon themselves", it's all about the green.

No offense, but I disagree with you 100%.
If ARod was all about the money, he WOULD'VE stayed with the Yankees as they are probably the only team legitimately willing to shell out $30 million+ to this guy for 5-7 ADDITIONAL years (added to the 3 he had on the contract). I don't think Anaheim, Chicago, Boston, or the Mets are going to shell out more than $27 per annum.

ARod opted out for 2 reasons:
1. Boras doesn't like getting insulted and when the Yankees said they thought he was bluffing, as well as when they said "if he opts out, goodbye," I think he got insulted.

2. Hank Steinbrenner admitted that the Yankees are in a transitional period with the loss of Torre. ARod wants a championship, plain and simple. He doesn't think the Yankees are going to win one soon, what with the loss of Torre and the possible losses of Pettitte, Posada, and Mo. Anaheim is almost ALWAYS in contention for the playoffs, won a title a few years back, have a solid pitching staff, and with ARod and Vlad in that order, that is a legitimate championship contender right there. Likewise, put him on the Cubs with Aramis and Soriano and you have another solid title contender.

I think this is ALL about a championship for ARod. It is a known fact that ARod is a statistical nut. He doesn't want to retire being the greatest player ever not to win a title. He wants a title, regardless of whether it means exploiting a team like the Yankees. The guy has no loyalty to a team, just to himself winning a title.

[Beantown]

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As far as the Yankees go, I don't think we can judge them at all until we see what happens with Mo, Posada and Pettite, and Abreu to a much lesser extent.

Depending on what happens with those 3 (4), this could be the first time we've seen the Yankees enter a rather large "rebuilding" stage in awhile.

Also, for Yankees fans...what does management do with Damon? Is he gone?

[Porschebenz2001]

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LOL @ all these angry Yankee fans calling the FAN and saying they hope A-Rod's name is in Mitchell's report when it gets released in the not-so-distant future.

LOL! Those are the kinds of fans that give us a bad name. Who cares now? The A-rod era is over. Time to move on, and focus on signing our FA's.

[ehh]

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As far as the Yankees go, I don't think we can judge them at all until we see what happens with Mo, Posada and Pettite, and Abreu to a much lesser extent.

Depending on what happens with those 3 (4), this could be the first time we've seen the Yankees enter a rather large "rebuilding" stage in awhile.

Also, for Yankees fans...what does management do with Damon? Is he gone?

Damon has two years left, I don't think they're doing anything with him. He'll be impossible trade - but he was very good for us this year when healthy. I have no problem with him being our starting LF next year on Opening Day.

I don't think the Yanks are really in a rebuilding stage, but you put it in quotes so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by it. As you said we have to wait and see what happens w. their big three FA's. If we get all three back I think we can still win the Wild Card next year, if all three leave we are in major trouble.

A lot of the NY media and Yankee fans think there's no way those three leave because the Yanks will give them their best contract offer, but there are plenty of rumors about Posada and Girardi not getting a long and if Posada leaves then Mo and Pettitte could bounce as well. At this point I don't think anything is guaranteed.

[Porschebenz2001]

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As far as the Yankees go, I don't think we can judge them at all until we see what happens with Mo, Posada and Pettite, and Abreu to a much lesser extent.

Depending on what happens with those 3 (4), this could be the first time we've seen the Yankees enter a rather large "rebuilding" stage in awhile.

Also, for Yankees fans...what does management do with Damon? Is he gone?

I think he is pretty much untradeable. If he was traded, the Yanks would have to eat most of his salary anyway. They NEED to sign Mo, Posada, and Pettitte. Then count the days until Giambi and Pavano's contracts come off the books.

[Beantown]

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I don't think the Yanks are really in a rebuilding stage, but you put it in quotes so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by it. As you said we have to wait and see what happens w. their big three FA's. If we get all three back I think we can still win the Wild Card next year, if all three leave we are in major trouble.

Yeah, I should have clarified that a little bit.

If all three of those leave - three big name Yankee players who have been Yankees their entire career, more or less - the team will be rebuilding in the sense that most of the older, noteable Yankees are gone and we'll be seeing a lot more younger guys coming in.

Didn't mean they were going to suck or anything...just that, if they lose those three, the team will look much different from an outsider's point of view.