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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #196
    Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

    Originally posted by Pared
    You REALLY think Bud has pull like that? No way.

    If a team wants him they'll sign him. I really think they are sick of Boras' crap and collectively won't buy into what he's selling.

    But Bud? No way.
    You'd be surprised. Bud has a lot of sway with a few influential owners. He actually has the support of a lot of owners not just because he looks like a puppet out there but because he's one of the good ol' boys. Remember Bud was an owner since 1970 so he's seen everything from the inside for a VERY long time.
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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #197
      Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

      Boras tried to bluff the Yankees and it backfired, so now he's going to cry collusion. I highly doubt it's collusion, it's more that nobody is dumb enough to commit 350 million dollars to a guy who is going to be in his 40's when this contract expires. With the Yankees and Red Sox seemingly out of the running, this is looking like a major mistake by Bora$. Who knows though, he probably has something else up his sleeve.
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #198
        Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

        Originally posted by camulos
        Boras tried to bluff the Yankees and it backfired, so now he's going to cry collusion. I highly doubt it's collusion, it's more that nobody is dumb enough to commit 350 million dollars to a guy who is going to be in his 40's when this contract expires. With the Yankees and Red Sox seemingly out of the running, this is looking like a major mistake by Bora$. Who knows though, he probably has something else up his sleeve.
        This is dead on, IMO. It's another Boras ploy, I highly doubt Selig and the owners/GM's are doing anything fishy.
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #199
          Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

          Originally posted by camulos
          Boras tried to bluff the Yankees and it backfired, so now he's going to cry collusion. I highly doubt it's collusion, it's more that nobody is dumb enough to commit 350 million dollars to a guy who is going to be in his 40's when this contract expires. With the Yankees and Red Sox seemingly out of the running, this is looking like a major mistake by Bora$. Who knows though, he probably has something else up his sleeve.
          Either way, the situation is pretty funny and I highly doubt A-Rod's going to get the money Boras was saying he'd get. I also think that announcing to the world that A-Rod was going to opt out BEFORE notifying Cashman was bold and stupid on his part.
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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #200
            Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

            I really hope the Yanks make to the World Series this year and Arod can only experience it by watching it on tv.
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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #201
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              I agree that Boras is just crying wolf because he knows that Alex offers have been lukewarm.

              When the guy talks it's because he is worried. He goes out and says that the market isn't thin for ARod. Guess what? It is. He goes out and says that he's been contacted by several teams. Guess what? He hasn't been.

              I'd bet that there are maybe three teams heavily interested in Alex and those teams are the Angels, Giants, and Mets. Since the Mets don't really have space for ARod I'd say they only contacted him to let him know of their interest. The Angels have probably already given Boras an idea as to how much they are willing to spend and if they are smart it's nowhere above 20 million a year.

              Now the Angels are heavy in talks about Cabrera and Boras is beginning to sweat since he knows that the Giants won't outbid themselves for Rodriguez.

              I said it from the beginning and I still believe it. Alex won't get anything like the Yankees offer that Boras tossed aside.

              The GMs are smarter and they don't have to collude to come to this understanding. There is no GM out there that feels they have to have Alex Rodriguez. So, there is no GM out there that will throw 30 million at him in fear that a competitor will sign him instead. They know Boras' tricks and they'll throw their initial offers come Tuesday morning and Boras will be extremely upset.

              I bet by Wednesday we'll be hearing more from Boras on how he's been contacted by at least 8-10 teams and that dollars have not been discussed.
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              • Trevytrev11
                MVP
                • Nov 2006
                • 3259

                #202
                Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                Collusion or not, I would love to see Arod sign for less than he was making with the Yankee's. For reasons that other may not share of A-Rod, I would just like to see his decision back fire.

                The way I see it is he left Seattle for Texas and decided that $ was more important than winning. With his contract, the Rangers had no opportunity to get better and contend. Their pitching was horrible and Juan Gonzales was fragile. After deciding it was a bad decision, he demanded to be traded to a winner. But at times he struggled and until this last year, arguably didn't earn his $$ statisitically and heard it from every direction...poor Arod. He finally has an amazing season, but still struggles in the post season and opts out of the biggest contract in baseball history for more money. The guy wants his cake and to eat it to. He wants to be paid top dollar, and some how expects a team with that salary on their books (other than the Yanks and Sox) to compete down the road.

                With that being said, is it wrong that either I want him to get low balled by every team and end up with a smaller contract than the one he gave up or sign a huge contract and stink up the joint.

                Also, some collusion might be good for baseball. Future contracts will be judged against his and if gets low balled, maybe the contracts will come back down to reality in the near future.

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                • Trevytrev11
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3259

                  #203
                  Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                  Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                  There is no GM out there that feels they have to have Alex Rodriguez. So, there is no GM out there that will throw 30 million at him in fear that a competitor will sign him instead.
                  I like this point. Look how many teams have won WS's without ARod...look how many the Yankee's won with him. Obviously it's more than just ARod, but I think teams will realize what the Rangers realized when they initially signed him and that is unless you can afford a $150+ million payroll, signing ARod is going to handicap you every where else on the field

                  The Angles are probably the one team that could handle it for a short period of time. they have a lot of young, cheap talent right now. Besides Vlad, Lackey and KRod, there aren't a bunch of big names. But eventually they are going to have to resign those other guys and they won't be able to afford to do so.

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                  • ckarlic
                    So Real!!
                    • May 2003
                    • 4999

                    #204
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                    WOW..just read this in the NY dailynews:



                    Looks like the Yanks are in talks with Arod and NOT his agent Boras!! Good stuff. THe Yanks said that they will talk to Arod but Boras is not allowed in the room. According to the article it appears that Arod approached the Yanks and not the other way around. I think Arod wants to see if the Mo deal will go through.

                    I was thinking, cant Arod just fire his ******* agent? I mean Boras kind of works for Arod.
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                    • Porschebenz2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3628

                      #205
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                      That is freeking hillarious. Maybe Arod came to his sense, we'll see.
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                      • ckarlic
                        So Real!!
                        • May 2003
                        • 4999

                        #206
                        Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                        Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
                        That is freeking hillarious. Maybe Arod came to his sense, we'll see.
                        Yeah for real. I actually would love to hear Boras' reaction to this. You never know, this might be a ploy on Boras' part..he is a weasel!!
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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #207
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                          HAHA at "below market value." $275 million over 10 years is still $27 million a year. How is that below market value when $30 million a year was never even feasible.

                          That being said, it's below the value the Yanks initially offered Alex Rodriguez. So I like this because it puts the Yankees in control.

                          For a guy that apparently cares about his image, I'm surprised Alex still has Boras as his agent. Of course, that only pushes the image that he is actually about the money.

                          Typical Alex Rodriguez move would be to resign with the Yankees at 275 for 10 and then fire Boras. He would think everyone would say, "Finally, Alex caers about his image!" But what affect does it really have if he won't sign a new contract ever again? He'd still get what he wants.

                          If Alex really wants to save face then he fires Boras right now. That would never happen.
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                          • TarHeelMan
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7853

                            #208
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                            I don't know if ARod would fire Boras... As some of the talking heads have stated, Boras has been his agent since he was a teenager, and every move that he's coached him to has put millions of dollars in his pocket. If you go from a situation where you basically don't have much, and then some dude comes along, and everything he's coached you through has made you richer and richer, I think it's kind of hard to tell dude to beat it.

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #209
                              Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                              I heard this on the FAN a lil while ago and I was cracking up. This entire ordeal blew up in Boras' face so bad.
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                              • NYJets
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 18637

                                #210
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                                That's hillarious.
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