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  • oakfan162
    Get Ducked Up!
    • Mar 2006
    • 4724

    #181
    Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

    Don't know if this has been posted (apologies if it has), but this is great. lol
    Agents Hoping Owners Collude Against A-Rod
    http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_wi...against_a_rod/
    New York Times - The words and deeds of Scott Boras over the past week had other agents saying they wouldn’t mind if the owners engaged in collusion against Alex Rodriguez, which is a pretty severe reaction from people whose clients were victims of the owners’ collusion in the mid-1980s.

    By opting out of the last three years and $91 million of his 10-year, $252 million contract, Rodriguez, as Boras has pointed out, was exercising the right granted him in the contract that Boras negotiated with the Texas Rangers in December 2000, and the one the Yankees acquired four years ago.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #182
      Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

      It's funny but not a good idea.

      Actually, executives wouldn't have to even consider collusion if they just used their brains.

      There aren't many teams that could afford Alex's previous contract. There are even less that can afford his new contract demands.

      If they want to outbid themselves then the team that pulls a Hicks deserves to be stuck in mediocricy for the next 12 years.

      If I'm a competing GM I offer Alex $90 million over 6 years with a 7th year $10 million Player Option driving the potential contact to $100 million over 7 years. If he says no I throw in a no trade and call it a day.

      Any GM that offers more than $20 million a year on the first offer deserves to be tied down by Boras and made his b*tch.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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      • Picci
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 4517

        #183
        Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

        Originally posted by oakfan162
        Don't know if this has been posted (apologies if it has), but this is great. lol
        Agents Hoping Owners Collude Against A-Rod
        http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_wi...against_a_rod/


        Doesn't make sense. Agents should be hoping that teams bid high on him. It helps out for other players who begin to move into stardom territories. They can begin to move players into the $20Million neighborhood more often than not.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #184
          Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

          Originally posted by Picci
          Doesn't make sense. Agents should be hoping that teams bid high on him. It helps out for other players who begin to move into stardom territories. They can begin to move players into the $20Million neighborhood more often than not.
          Agents can talk about this stuff and act like they care but they all know that executives will continue to meet their demands.

          It's win-win for them. Lets say we hate Boras (like pretty much everyone else does) and owners will want to talk to our clients instead. We know they'll pay up the butt for our guys so who cares what we think?
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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          • oakfan162
            Get Ducked Up!
            • Mar 2006
            • 4724

            #185
            Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

            Originally posted by Picci
            Doesn't make sense. Agents should be hoping that teams bid high on him. It helps out for other players who begin to move into stardom territories. They can begin to move players into the $20Million neighborhood more often than not.
            I just found it funny in a personal sense. I equate the Boras hate right now to the hating on the Patriots. All the agents are jealous of him right now. They are just stewing that he has these ideas first. Believe me, most of those agents would do the exact same things as Boras if given the opportunity and idea.
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            • ckarlic
              So Real!!
              • May 2003
              • 4999

              #186
              Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

              Not sure if this was posted before but i just read this in the NY Dailynews:



              What I found really jacked up was this:

              "...Meanwhile, wasn't that real nice the way Boras threw Mariano Rivera under the bus on ESPN's "First Take", suggesting that A-Rod's postseason stats might not be nearly be so bad if Rivera hadn't blown the save and gotten the last four outs of Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS against the Red Sox. As one high-level MLB official put it: "I don't see how (A-Rod) can salvage his reputation."

              Wow what a low blow..I cant believe that Boras would say something like this...ummm on second thought I can..what an ***!!!!!! And he says this after he cited Arod's reason for leaving was the team's uncertainty whether Mo, Posada, and Pettite were going to resign!!

              What a liar!!!
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              • Porschebenz2001
                MVP
                • Nov 2004
                • 3628

                #187
                Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                A liar and a scumbag. When's he gonna let Arod out of his cage? I wanna hear his scripted lies.
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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #188
                  Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                  Yanks offered A-Rod arbitration.
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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #189
                    Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                    Originally posted by ehh
                    Yanks offered A-Rod arbitration.
                    Now we'll get a draft pick. Good move.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                    • Kashanova
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 12695

                      #190
                      Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                      Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                      Now we'll get a draft pick. Good move.
                      what if he excepts it though?

                      dun dun dun!!

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #191
                        Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                        Originally posted by Kashanova
                        what if he excepts it though?

                        dun dun dun!!
                        If he excepts it then he'd just be doing what he did when the Yanks threw him an initial offer.

                        Now if he accepts it then yea, I guess he could make some serious cash for one year.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                        • Sandman42
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 15186

                          #192
                          Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                          Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                          Now we'll get a draft pick. Good move.
                          2 draft picks actually. A first round pick from whatever team signs him (the top 15 picks in the draft are protected though) and then a sandwich pick that falls in between the 1st and 2nd rounds.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #193
                            Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                            Originally posted by Sandman42
                            2 draft picks actually. A first round pick from whatever team signs him (the top 15 picks in the draft are protected though) and then a sandwich pick that falls in between the 1st and 2nd rounds.
                            I thought so but wasn't sure. Thanks.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • SPTO
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #194
                              Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                              I guess this is the right place.

                              The "C" word is now being bandied about in regards to A-Rod. Yep, Boras and the Players Union are worried that owners are colluding against A-Rod. A part of me has to agree to a certain extent. The last contract of 20 mil per year or more was given out in 2000. So already you see owners being a little more responsible about the money. Then you have the issue of Boras himself. Let's face it, Boras is Public Enemy #1 and what's the best way to get back at him? Simple, don't fall for his shenanigans by being lukewarm or outright saying no to A-Rod this offseason. One last thing, investing all that money into a guy that at times doesn't seem human and can be a bit flaky isn't wise.

                              Yep, I've a feeling Bud has told the owners to hold off on signing A-Rod and if anyone DOES sign him it's going to be well below the 35 mil per that Boras boasted about. Scott Boras has finally outwitted himself and personally i'm laughing my arse off!
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                              • Pared
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #195
                                Re: A-Rod to Opt Out

                                You REALLY think Bud has pull like that? No way.

                                If a team wants him they'll sign him. I really think they are sick of Boras' crap and collectively won't buy into what he's selling.

                                But Bud? No way.
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