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  • lonewolf371
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    • Aug 2009
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    #241
    re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

    Originally posted by slickdtc
    I really thought Hanigan would continue to be productive at the plate as he was finally getting a bit of recognition for it, but that hasn't happened. At least he's well respected as a signal caller, and I believe a good chunk of our pitchers success has come due to Hanigan. Still, maybe Mesoraco needs more consistent playing time to progress.

    I doubt we snag a catcher.

    I'll take some outfield help for sure, though.


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    Yeah I don't think there's any chance the Reds get a catcher with Hanigan and Mesoraco around, but left field is still a possibility.
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    • Son of Sam99
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      #242
      re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

      Originally posted by lonewolf371
      Yeah I don't think there's any chance the Reds get a catcher with Hanigan and Mesoraco around, but left field is still a possibility.
      the problem with trading for left field help is that Heisey has gotten really hot lately
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      • redsrule
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        #243
        re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

        The only person in the outfield I would want to trade for would be Stanton. I'd say we need a SS more than a left fielder too.
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        • lonewolf371
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          #244
          re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

          Originally posted by Son of Sam99
          the problem with trading for left field help is that Heisey has gotten really hot lately
          Small sample size... He's okay, though. Stanton would be a massive upgrade. Honestly, if Chapman is going to be a reliever for the rest of his time in Cincinnati, then the Reds better deal him for Stanton.
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          • Son of Sam99
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            #245
            re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

            Originally posted by lonewolf371
            Small sample size... He's okay, though. Stanton would be a massive upgrade. Honestly, if Chapman is going to be a reliever for the rest of his time in Cincinnati, then the Reds better deal him for Stanton.
            Yeah its a small sample size and indeed I'm sure he will come back down to earth but in July (29 ABs) he is hitting .345 and slugging .759. Also on the season (112 ABs) hes slugging .429 behind only Bruce, Votto, and Choo on the team. Just some food for thought.

            Stanton slugs .538 on his career with an OBP of .350 (much better than Ludwick & Heisey). So obviously Stanton would be a huge upgrade, and if for some reason Walt Jocketty asked my opinion I would be on board, but I honestly think that's a pipe dream that we can get him.
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            • Son of Sam99
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              #246
              re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

              Originally posted by lonewolf371
              Yeah I don't think there's any chance the Reds get a catcher with Hanigan and Mesoraco around, but left field is still a possibility.
              Think its possible to plug Michael Young into LF? He lacks power but hit .347 OBP would rank only behind Votto & Choo on this team
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              • SlimKibbles
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                #247
                Originally posted by Son of Sam99
                Think its possible to plug Michael Young into LF? He lacks power but hit .347 OBP would rank only behind Votto & Choo on this team
                I doubt he has the legs anymore to play out there.


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                • lonewolf371
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                  #248
                  re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                  Originally posted by Son of Sam99
                  Yeah its a small sample size and indeed I'm sure he will come back down to earth but in July (29 ABs) he is hitting .345 and slugging .759. Also on the season (112 ABs) hes slugging .429 behind only Bruce, Votto, and Choo on the team. Just some food for thought.

                  Stanton slugs .538 on his career with an OBP of .350 (much better than Ludwick & Heisey). So obviously Stanton would be a huge upgrade, and if for some reason Walt Jocketty asked my opinion I would be on board, but I honestly think that's a pipe dream that we can get him.
                  Well the thing about Stanton is he's only scratched the surface of his potential. Great walk rate, plus plus power. He will hit 50 home runs in a season by the time his career is over and will probably have several 40 home run seasons. He's been an above average defender as well.

                  Originally posted by Son of Sam99
                  Think its possible to plug Michael Young into LF? He lacks power but hit .347 OBP would rank only behind Votto & Choo on this team
                  I think that OBP is an overperformance. He's been a defensive liability in the infield for years, but I don't know about the outfield. If he has problems with his legs as SlimKibbles said then I'd avoid him. Old, injury-prone players in the outfield rarely works out. They need to be at first base or DH.
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                  • slickdtc
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                    #249
                    Wow, slew of runs through the past game and a half. I truly do believe this team will get better over the second half of the season.


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                    • Son of Sam99
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                      #250
                      re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                      Originally posted by lonewolf371
                      Well the thing about Stanton is he's only scratched the surface of his potential. Great walk rate, plus plus power. He will hit 50 home runs in a season by the time his career is over and will probably have several 40 home run seasons. He's been an above average defender as well.
                      As I said before I'd happily trade Chapman for Stanton. one issue though is that he's arbitration eligible in 2014 and apparently they're searching the couch cushions for some Choo money as is. I'm just saying I think its a pipe dream.
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                      • Son of Sam99
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                        #251
                        re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                        Sorry to kind of take over the thread but I found something interesting while looking at some stats and decided to beat the deceased Zach Cozart horse a little more

                        - hitting 2nd: 261 ABs .257 avg .284 OBP
                        - hitting 7th: 92 ABs .217 avg .250 OBP

                        Curious how the numbers jump off a cliff there making him even more useless hitting lower in the order.

                        I distinctly remember the feeling last season in the NLDS while experiencing the absolute worst two games I've ever seen at GABP... That after the 4 spot the lineup was a total black hole for hitting. Its starting to feel more and more like that this season.
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                        • lonewolf371
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                          #252
                          re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                          Originally posted by Son of Sam99
                          As I said before I'd happily trade Chapman for Stanton. one issue though is that he's arbitration eligible in 2014 and apparently they're searching the couch cushions for some Choo money as is. I'm just saying I think its a pipe dream.
                          I'll be impressed if the Reds can keep Choo. Also, between arbitration Stanton and free agent Choo I would take Stanton every single time. I doubt the Reds get Stanton, though.
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                          • redsrule
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                            #253
                            re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                            The Reds are on a west coast trip, and they are winning!?
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                            • SlimKibbles
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                              #254
                              ESPN leads off The 11 pm SC with Puig's walk-off today concentrating on his "walk-off style." 1) I'm sick of ESPN's love-fest with Puig and 2) I really hope a Reds pitcher drills that kid when the Dodgers come to town in September after that crap today.
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                              • Son of Sam99
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                                #255
                                re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                                Originally posted by SlimKibbles
                                ESPN leads off The 11 pm SC with Puig's walk-off today concentrating on his "walk-off style." 1) I'm sick of ESPN's love-fest with Puig and 2) I really hope a Reds pitcher drills that kid when the Dodgers come to town in September after that crap today.
                                I hadn't seen the celebration before reading this post. Let his fellow countryman (Chapman) drill him in the leg.

                                Also, can you even imagine if a guy acted like that with Dusty as his manager!?

                                Edit: Final point I swear: ESPN sucks... Especially Sports Center which doesn't even really report scores or show highlights like they used to. Unfortunately there isn't much to replace it with but i would recommend "The Lights" on NBC sports network if you get that. No analysis, just highlights. Hopefully Fox Sports 1 will provide a decent highlight show.
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