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  • lonewolf371
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    • Aug 2009
    • 3420

    #271
    re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

    Originally posted by slickdtc
    Absolutely. I'm witnessing first hand the downfall of a once dominant franchise in the Phillies. Threw a lot of money at big names, and the farm system is depleted. They're playing near .500, but 80 wins gets you nothing. They're facing a long hard rebuilding phase. Won't be easy, and won't be easy to sell to the fan base which has grown with the success of the past 10 or so years.

    But ask a Phillies fan if it was worth the World Series they won in 08, and the couple of NLCS appearances and second WS appearance.

    It's that balance of building and planning for the future, and risking mortgaging that for a shot at the whole enchilada.

    Making the playoffs is great and it's still a new feeling for modern Reds fans. But going one and done isn't going to cut it forever. And the division isn't getting any easier to win and compete in. Pirates and Cards figure to stick around, and the Cubs are probably on their way towards more consistent competitiveness. Milwaukee may be chilling in the cellar for a while.

    I don't want to be a good team. I want this team to be a great team and win a World Series.

    Truth be told, I'd give up Hamilton + Chapman. I don't trust Hamilton to be a good enough hitter to compliment his speed and potential defense. Now Stephenson, not so much. Pitching is too valuable. I think we can more ably plug in a position player then a high end pitching prospect.

    This could be the year to shake up the NL. It's PIT, STL, ATL, and us as far as I'm concerned. That's a 1 in 4 chance. If we're #4 of those currently, getting Stanton bumps us right there with whoever is the best of "the big four."

    I'm not completely sold on a trade, but I wouldn't be upset if we did mortgage the future. Stanton is a known commodity. These prospects aren't, though upside could be higher.

    And, I don't really trust Dusty Baker to utilize these players anyway. I think at best he's getting average play out of our lineup. He's not adding anything to help us, perhaps even stunting our potential. This team has so much going for it, but enough weak points to stop anyone short of saying we're a slam dunk for at least an NLCS appearance.
    Well we're past the trade deadline now, and it didn't sound like the Reds were actively pursuing Stanton. Anything there would happen during the offseason.

    Also, thank goodness the Reds finally got a win.
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    • slickdtc
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      • Aug 2004
      • 17125

      #272
      Yup. I wasn't 100% sold either way, so I'm okay with staying pat and the returns from the DL being our moves. Specifically Ludwick, though I don't feel comfortable placing our fortunes on him completely.

      We are a good team even when we're not playing our best ball; we're a WS contender when we're on. I don't think we've reached the point where we need to blow up our roster to get over the hump. I do want to see us in the NLCS at least, though. Gotta win a playoff series this year!

      Homer Bailey has been our stopper this year, hasn't he? I'm so impressed by his turnaround, showing last year was no fluke. Seems to be getting better, more comfortable. I name 2-3 of our starters before him, but he may be the class of the bunch. That's a testament to our staff. I pray that our lineup doesn't squander away this rotation's strength!

      Big series against St. Louis. I've seen "cage the Cards" as the rallying call. Pittsburgh may not fade this year, so I'll be content with it being the Cardinals this year.

      I'll leave this here, too:

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      Originally posted by Money99
      And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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      • jasontoddwhitt
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 8095

        #273
        re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

        Loved how Joey Votto showed up for this series. Got on base all four times he came to bat and provided all the offense.

        Shame no one else showed up for this all important series, including the manager.

        I thought the Reds could fight back despite getting down, then I turned the game off when Dusty brought Partch in to be the sacrificial lamb in a game he had given up on.

        It's not like it was an important game or anything. Just one of 162. No big deal. That's how Dusty manages every game (even playoff games). Seems like Dusty gives up on more games than any other manager in baseball. This team is on the brink of falling out of playoff contention and here he is conceding a game.
        Last edited by jasontoddwhitt; 08-03-2013, 12:15 AM.
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        • jasontoddwhitt
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 8095

          #274
          re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

          Broxton threw a simulated game today. He's going to pitch tomorrow for Louisville. If he has no pain, he could be back with the Reds Monday.

          Ludwick is hitting .068 at Louisville. Ouch.

          Hanigan had a cortisone shot in his hand. In a couple days, he'll try to take batting practice.

          No word on Marshall and Cueto.
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          • lonewolf371
            MVP
            • Aug 2009
            • 3420

            #275
            re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

            ESPN is still giving the Reds an 83.6% chance of making the playoffs, but I'm more or less resigned to a Wild Card at this point. The hitting is not deep enough for the Reds to take the division.
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            • SlimKibbles
              Supporter
              • Apr 2004
              • 7276

              #276
              re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

              Originally posted by lonewolf371
              ESPN is still giving the Reds an 83.6% chance of making the playoffs, but I'm more or less resigned to a Wild Card at this point. The hitting is not deep enough for the Reds to take the division.
              I'm in the same boat. I think they'll make the playoffs as a WC, which is fine. The point is to get in.

              I went to the games the last couple of nights. Obviously Saturday was much more entertaining than Friday. Hope they can pull one out today to take the series.
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              • jasontoddwhitt
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 8095

                #277
                re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                Dusty Baker was unavailable for post game comments.

                Hopefully, it was because Walt was giving him a pink slip. Most likely, he hadn't woken up from his nap. He slept for most of the game I believe, especially the sixth inning.

                I'm glad one of the players finally came out and said it.

                Sam Lecure: "We're running out of tomorrows and we have to play with some urgency."

                Thank you Sam.

                Hopefully, this Cardinals series will spur the Reds much like the beatdown the Cardinals gave the Reds in August of 2010. But I don't know about this bunch. They have acted like they've been going through the motions for two solid months now, much like the 2011 Reds. I have to keep reminding myself that they still have a sizable advantage for the second wildcard spot.
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                • Buckeyes_Doc
                  In Dalton I Trust
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11918

                  #278
                  I read earlier the Reds have lost the last 6 series against STL, pathetic. It's weird that how bad this team has been playing they are still 10 over .500 but they need to turn things around fast.
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                  • slickdtc
                    Grayscale
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 17125

                    #279
                    I'm starting to worry that maybe it's our year to collapse. :/

                    It seems we've been struggling for the last 2 months. Keep saying they'll turn it around, but then we get shelled by the Cards 2 of 3. Still manage to get a big win though... Case in point.
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                    Originally posted by Money99
                    And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                    • lonewolf371
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3420

                      #280
                      re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                      The Reds just aren't that great of a baseball team. Rest of season projections have the team going about .500 until the end of the season. The lineup only really has three good offensive players (guys with a wOBA above .320). By comparison the Cardinals have seven such players. The Pirates have five.
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                      • HustlinOwl
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 9713

                        #281
                        re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                        all that needs to be said

                        • ESPN.com’s Christina Karhl on the Reds’ right-handed hitters struggles hitting right-handed pitching.

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                        • TheShizNo1
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 26341

                          #282
                          Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                          all that needs to be said

                          • ESPN.com’s Christina Karhl on the Reds’ right-handed hitters struggles hitting right-handed pitching.
                          That's pretty depressing to read.

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                          • redsrule
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #283
                            re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                            It seems to me this year that Jay Bruce is finally coming into his own. I know he has struck out a ton, but I can live with that when he is hitting .275 and is driving in a lot of runs. That's not mentioning his defense either where he is one of the best right fielders in baseball.
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                            • jasontoddwhitt
                              MVP
                              • May 2003
                              • 8095

                              #284
                              re: 2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

                              Originally posted by redsrule
                              It seems to me this year that Jay Bruce is finally coming into his own. I know he has struck out a ton, but I can live with that when he is hitting .275 and is driving in a lot of runs. That's not mentioning his defense either where he is one of the best right fielders in baseball.
                              I wish Dusty would hit him behind Votto. So what if it's back-to-back lefties?

                              Believe it or not...Bruce has a higher batting average against lefties this year than righties. And Joey is well....Joey.

                              And interesting stat about Votto. Votto is on pace to lead the league for a fourth straight year in on base percentage. The only other players to do that....

                              Barry Bonds
                              Wade Boggs
                              Ted Williams
                              Rogers Hornsby

                              And yet he catches flack from people because he doesn't drive in runs?
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                              • slickdtc
                                Grayscale
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 17125

                                #285
                                Clogging those bases like a friggin' clown, that Votto fella. LOL

                                I hate the "must mix up lefty/righty" stance. If a guy can hit either, it doesn't matter! Clearly, for these guys, it doesn't matter. But lets not maximize our offenses potential to appease the Baseball Gods.
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                                Originally posted by Money99
                                And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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