**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[CMH]

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The media is pouring a lot of effort into figuring out who the next manager is going to be as if it's someone with experience or something.

It's going to be an unknown.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Cashman is clearly running things now lol.

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Yup. I've got no problems with it. If he's got the reins, and Levine and Hal stay out of the way, I feel very comfortable with our future going forward.

Why is it time though?

I can't find a single team under Girardi that underachieved and most overachieved. The last few years prior to this one we had an old, overpaid roster and he kept us competitive. This year we had a young team that people thought at best could sneak into the playoffs if everything went right and we made it convincingly and were a game from the world series.

I'm in the camp that who the manager is doesn't make that huge a deal so I'm not freaking out about this, but I can't even see an argument to be made that he should be let go.

Teix was on the Michael Kay Show (which I didn't hear, but heard about) and then later on Baseball Tonight/Sportscenter (one or the other, which I did actually see) and he was saying he thinks Girardi can be really tense, and it can rub some of the guys the wrong way. I'm sure the front office also didn't like him going with the binder vs. their data at certain times, like CMH said. At this point, I think Cash thinks the game is so by the numbers that he can get a manager who just has great control over the clubhouse and can learn analytics/has an analytics background. This leads us to...

4 million reasons probably.

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I think this is at least 25% of the reason. I was looking for a list of manager salaries, the one I found had maybe 10 guys on it. Girardi was 4th with his salary. I went to look up Dave Roberts for the Dodgers, because I thought that would be a good example of how they might play this, and I couldn't find contract numbers, but I found this in an article that came out at the time:

Hernandez, Plaschke and Shaikin also suggested “like Mattingly, the new manager can count on guidance from front-office executives on everything from the team's lineup to bullpen decisions.”

I expect this is what we'll see going forward. I'd put my money on Rob Thomson or the AAA manager being brought in at $2 mil a year, but Cash is a ninja so he could surprise us.

[DamnYanks2]

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Sounds from everything I've read as if Cashman has gotten a little full of himself/big for his britches.

He knows what he's doing. And he's the man to lead things from here. Hal and Levine don't have a tenth of the baseball knowledge Cashman has.

Hal just bears his father's last name. He doesn't have the love and passion George had for the game. He just inherited the Yankees.

Cashman should absolutely take the reins. Because in my eyes this is his team now. He put this together. You can pay attention to the fancy name titles. But this is Cashmans team now.

Have a good feeling he and Joe clashed on many things.

Yup. I've got no problems with it. If he's got the reins, and Levine and Hal stay out of the way, I feel very comfortable with our future going forward.



Teix was on the Michael Kay Show (which I didn't hear, but heard about) and then later on Baseball Tonight/Sportscenter (one or the other, which I did actually see) and he was saying he thinks Girardi can be really tense, and it can rub some of the guys the wrong way. I'm sure the front office also didn't like him going with the binder vs. their data at certain times, like CMH said. At this point, I think Cash thinks the game is so by the numbers that he can get a manager who just has great control over the clubhouse and can learn analytics/has an analytics background. This leads us to...



I think this is at least 25% of the reason. I was looking for a list of manager salaries, the one I found had maybe 10 guys on it. Girardi was 4th with his salary. I went to look up Dave Roberts for the Dodgers, because I thought that would be a good example of how they might play this, and I couldn't find contract numbers, but I found this in an article that came out at the time:



I expect this is what we'll see going forward. I'd put my money on Rob Thomson or the AAA manager being brought in at $2 mil a year, but Cash is a ninja so he could surprise us.

Same. I think Joe was a good guy, but had a pretty dull personality. And I myself questioned how he'd handle the youth infusion. The whole Gary Sanchez nonsense kind of told me everything I needed to know about Joe. It was probably time to head in a different direction.

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[decga]

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Hey I am outsider. I keep hearing situation between Sanchez and Girardi. I remembered something this pass summer. Remembered Girardi was a catcher. A self made man. Nothing ever was given to him. He was a backup and darn good at defense. Which I am hearing that is knock on Sanchez. He wants to bat on offense and defense. LOL Good luck!

[DamnYanks2]

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Hey I am outsider. I keep hearing situation between Sanchez and Girardi. I remembered something this pass summer. Remembered Girardi was a catcher. A self made man. Nothing ever was given to him. He was a backup and darn good at defense. Which I am hearing that is knock on Sanchez. He wants to bat on offense and defense. LOL Good luck!

The talk that Sanchez is a terrible catcher is hot take central. He's not Mike Piazza 2.0. He's a very good pitch framer and has a cannon for an arm and extremely accurate at that

He's got to work on blocking pitches. He's naturally gifted. If he works at it. And he will. He could be a top 3 defensive catcher in this league. No joke. He certainly has the skills.



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[DieHardYankee26]

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https://twitter.com/JLo/status/936305055841398784

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcGIdMjg4Q3/

High key perturbed they interview guys like Beltran with no experience and not the guy routinely referred to as one of the greatest baseball minds of the generation.

[CMH]

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Let's be clear, Alex would be a great candidate IF you remove all the negativity that comes with his signing.

I can't see Cashman wanting to bro it up with him in the front office. I think he's relieved to finally get rid of the guy. He doesn't want him back.

Plus, while I understand Alex's desire to manage the team, I think he should just ride the television wave for a few years. It's been great for him.

Being the manager is going to open up old wounds way too quickly. And I can't see a majority of Yankees fans being okay with him here.

I think Alex is the next next manager.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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When I first saw people recommending him, I thought it was too soon...but if they're seriously considering Beltran, I can't buy that. I'm mostly going on experience. A-Rod basically killed my love of sports and even I'm at the point where I can get over it and accept him back.

It seems clear they aren't into it. Cash has closed off the interviews, says he talked to A-Rod but that A-Rod didn't express interest in the position, which I don't believe for a second.

If Beltran gets the job I'm throwing a stack of papers in the air. A-Rod already mentored DiDi. He took Gary to lunch, and then the boy came back a beast. I don't have an issue with most of the people considered, but Beltran? Aaron Boone? Wut?

I can't believe I'm arguing for A-Rod to get an interview in a world where Jeter is looking like a villain as an owner. What world is this?

[CMH]

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Beltran or Alex, I think it's the same return. The Yankees will prefer an inexperienced guy for the reasons I've been saying: front office calls the shots.

They just want a good face, a rah rah guy, and someone the media will find charming. Every interview (except Wedge. I don't get that one) fits this criteria.

I would bet that Alex and Cashman talked and Cashman convinced Alex it was too soon. And he would be right.

Keep in mind too soon isn't about experience. It's about separating himself from Alex the baseball player which a lot of people hate. Alex needs to be known as the smart guy from the booth that is becoming a manager. He's not that person yet and there will be too much drama.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I guess I feel like he's already that guy. All I see about A-Rod these days from baseball fans is praise from his Fox stuff. Casuals will never see it because he's on Fox Sports lol.

In other news, Rob Thomson going to the Phillies. I don't blame him. Imagine being with the team for 28 years, thinking, finally, here's my shot, and then them going with someone else, possibly someone with no experience coaching. Should've followed the millenial playbook, new job every 3 years. #NoLoyalty

My new hope is the Giants bench coach, Muelens.

Beltran's been told he won't be the manager.

Down to the 2003 kid and Muelens.

Boone.

[DamnYanks2]

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Ugh Boone? Well at least I don't have to hear him on the espn broadcast anymore.

I'm gonna give him a chance, but I'm not sure relieving Girardi for Boone is a good move.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Cashm... I mean Aaron Boone will be a great manager. Seriously though, we've got one of the biggest sabermetrics/data collecting staffs in the league. Cash is playing OOTP out there. Boone seems like a really amicable guy and should mesh easy with the players. That's all he's really gotta do. The numbers will do the rest.

Now go get Shohei!

[DieHardYankee26]

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I'm pretty sure my first post on this site back in 2009 or 2008 or whatever was asking for a Yu Darvish Cap because I had heard about him and got so excited for when the Yankees would have a chance to sign him...

This feels much worse than that lol. Been following this guy for years, didn't make it past the first round of meetings. What can ya do?

Guess we move on to bringing CC back, and finding another back of the rotation starter. I'm sure we'll check in with Maitan now. Man, I'm so bummed.

[Rocket32]

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Just imagine having Judge AND Stanton.

[DieHardYankee26]

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WHAT IS LIFE?

I really didn't want Stanton but depending on the deal...OMG