The Art Team Really Tanked This Year.

[GisherJohn24]

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Hate you tell ya, but people are complaining about them, because they do look bad in 2K17.

Faces look good (on most players). It's the bodies that are horrendous. Strange that they'd put such little time in the body when the faces look great, for most part.

Just give us 2K16 bodies, but thin the legs a tad, and be done with it.

Actually, NBA 2k14 when it launched with the ps4 and shortly after the xbox one, was the best looking 2K game I've ever seen. The player models, the sweat, the details of tattoos and yes, the skin looks real. I'd say near perfect. The gameplay was iffy, but man, 2k14 still gets my vote for best looking.

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The clay looking skin is really bugging me.

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NBA 2K14

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Unless my eyes are going whacko. I will comfortably say, that the 3 year old 2k14, looks better than 17.

[redux1000]

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Kind of disappointing to not see a response from 2K yet here. Some of those body comparisons are just.... Really surprising considering the usual quality of the game overall. Seems strange, especially when some of the body types were good last year (Curry, Giannis) but then inexplicably worsened for 2K17.

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[Thetruth9012]

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They slimmed down Paul George in the kicks trailer but I agree with you on Jimmy Butler.

Played in Prelude with George on America Team he has one of the worst body type he is bigger than cousins doesnt feel like him at all.

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[WISports]

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Kind of disappointing to not see a response from 2K yet here. Some of those body comparisons are just.... Really surprising considering the usual quality of the game overall. Seems strange, especially when some of the body types were good last year (Curry, Giannis) but then inexplicably worsened for 2K17.

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I love how Mike and a few other come in here and take questions. I think it's great, and really appreciate that.

But 2K has always shunned the art questions. Here and on Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. They never talk about art. It's sad.

Graphics, especially something as big as correct body types, unis and courts, is a huge part of making the game feel authentic. And they really dropped the ball this year.

[strawberryshortcake]

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NBA 2k17 Kevin Durant

From the "kicks" trailer. This is the best representation of proper Durant proportion. This looks like Durant. Don't know whether this is a different build, or a newer build.

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Don't know if the bottom jpeg is the same build as the above gif. But the above Durant gif looks pretty good.




NBA 2k17 Kicks trailer

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[Crunky]

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Good catch strawberry Durant does look better sort of like 2k15 model in the kicks trailer and so does Paul George looks more like his real life self not the 2ku model. That's why it's better to wait for the game release to make any final judgments.

[eko718]

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Same KD model, different angle in that trailer. Arms too skinny, head too big, neck too long.

[Mauer4MVP]

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I love how Mike and a few other come in here and take questions. I think it's great, and really appreciate that.

But 2K has always shunned the art questions. Here and on Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. They never talk about art. It's sad.

Graphics, especially something as big as correct body types, unis and courts, is a huge part of making the game feel authentic. And they really dropped the ball this year.

Huge to you but it not be as important for others (like myself).

[abuC]

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Huge to you but it not be as important for others (like myself).

So why are you in this thread?

[JKSportsGamer1984]

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I can't get over how some of these dudes look, Giannis in particular.

The skinny arms coupled with the extremely baggy jerseys just makes for an ugly character model.

As I've said before, 2K HAS to know that a lot of these don't look good. Did they lose resources in the art department? Is the lighting overhaul affecting other areas like body types?

Like others have said, KD and Curry looked great on their models last year, and some guys just needed their legs touched up. It's like 2K accidentally went to the extreme thinking that's what we wanted, and it's clearly not.

I know I'll look past the models once I have the game in my hand Friday, but I really hope this is priority for 2K18

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Agreed! But instead of being a priority for next year, why can't they fix it this year? I mean I would think it would be a simple fix. Just give Steph, Giannis, Tony Parker & Jimmy Butler their body types from last year, get rid of the skinny high school toothpick arm player models (only have them for KD & Brandon Ingram), slim down CP3's & Lowry's shoulders, give Westbrook a bulkier body type, etc.. I would think they could do this in a roster update let alone a patch. I thought I would be able to get over some of the player models, but after watching a leaked Warriors vs Rockets vid I found myself so distracted on how skinny Steph's arms were smh. 2K get er done!

[Black Bruce Wayne]

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I think in due time, the bodies will get better. 2K had said they couldnt give you "fat" players, for example, because it would have messed up the movement, or something to do with the programming. I dont think the Art team tanked, which is basically saying that they threw their hands up and didnt care.

I would like OP to post some solutions or suggestions instead of assuming that the art team "tanked". I can't support that statement, even though I agree that we need better body types.

[sva91]

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I think in due time, the bodies will get better. 2K had said they couldnt give you "fat" players, for example, because it would have messed up the movement, or something to do with the programming. I dont think the Art team tanked, which is basically saying that they threw their hands up and didnt care.

I would like OP to post some solutions or suggestions instead of assuming that the art team "tanked". I can't support that statement, even though I agree that we need better body types.

Post solutions? You think we're all video game designers here?

Solution:do a better job. It's embarrassing how bad these player models look. I have a lot of respect for Mike wang and the 2k team, but it's just unacceptable. I'm not saying art team just quit or were lazy, but it is the producer's job to allocate resources properly and make sure they can deliver a decent product.

It's 2016, we have amazing consoles, and these world class athletes look like 9th grade boys. All the while, you have scanned shoes and a million new things to PURCHASE for myplayer. It's a slap in the face really. I've modded games before.. There are so many quick fixes that could and should be made to jerseys and courts alone.

Seriously 2k I'll fly myself to your studio and pay for my own room and board for a weekend if you let me photoshop your awful discolored uniforms with tiny numbers and a million inaccuracies.

[strawberryshortcake]

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NBA 2k17 vs NBA 2k16 Graphics Comparison Team USA Edition
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[T~Mac]

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You gotta give them props for improving basically all cyberfaces shown here.
Although a lot of them have an uncomfortable I just pooped my pants look.

[abuC]

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I think in due time, the bodies will get better. 2K had said they couldnt give you "fat" players, for example, because it would have messed up the movement, or something to do with the programming. I dont think the Art team tanked, which is basically saying that they threw their hands up and didnt care.

That doesn't make sense, last year Draymond was fat.