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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #196
    Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

    But its only Musyk and 2k8 Champ vs who knows how many unsupporters....They cant counter every post...Im sure not gonna help cuz its redundant....This is like the 10th AI thread for this season....
    And like the other 9, it's the SAME exact ones making the SAME exact points over and over again. Some bringing facts with their points, some ignoring facts, and some dismissing facts just because it's Iverson.
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    • Jukeman
      Showtime
      • Aug 2005
      • 10955

      #197
      Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

      Originally posted by P2K
      Funny how two people responded to my post like I came after them personally when I never mentioned names.

      Oopsy. Guess I struck a nerve.
      I dont have short term memory....If I wanted I could bring your post up when called ME a "fake" Sixer fan back when the trade went down...Being that there were only a couple of AI fans who actually posted in here plus you already mentioned musyk that it wasnt him only leads to me....

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      • P2K
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 8845

        #198
        Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

        Originally posted by Jukeman
        I dont have short term memory....If I wanted I could bring your post up when called ME a "fake" Sixer fan back when the trade went down...Being that there were only a couple of AI fans who actually posted in here plus you already mentioned musyk that it wasnt him only leads to me....
        1. Yeah, I remember calling you that.

        2. I wasn't pointing out you nor anyone else. I had an opinion and expressed it with no direct or indirect purposes to anyone here. If you took it personally, that's your problem.

        3. There is life outside of OS. I have seen the people I described on RealGM, on the radio here in Philly. I was talking about everybody.

        Anyway, moving on...I just don't understand the animosity. It's not like half the folks on here are saying dude sucks. It's been conscructive criticism. Anyone that throws a hissy fit over that must be weird to talk to in person.

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        • NBA2k8 CHAMP
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 1918

          #199
          Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

          Originally posted by P2K
          No one is asking for AI to go extreme on defense. We're only asking for AI to give a damn on defense.




          How can Iverson play hard or be a "warrior" when he doesn't give effort on defense?
          1st point. He plays decent man to man defense, now rotations,pick n rolls,etc.. you got me there.

          I think it's more of coaching than Iverson's fault.Even at Gtown I've never seen a man do it in my lifetime but Iverson would literally ball hawk the whole game.(Back then he was much younger,quicker,and very good at it)

          2nd. I do remember prime Iverson leading the league in steals but people don't give him credit for that yet Rondo and CP3 are the best defenders at the PG spot and that's all they do is play lanes and gamble like A.I. once did.

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          • NBA2k8 CHAMP
            Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 1918

            #200
            Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

            Originally posted by NOBLE
            False. This year's offense was LOADS better than last year because they actually had a PG running the offense instead of Iverson.


            How? Numbers say otherwise.They also loss to the same team that put them out the year before.

            You can say they ran a run n gun fake offense or whatever you want to call it.

            Yet the point is they put the ball in the basket and that's all that really matters correct?

            I don't care how you score aslong as you have more points than the opposition then that's the only thing that counts.

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            • DakkoN
              All Star
              • Sep 2006
              • 5611

              #201
              Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

              Originally posted by NBA2k8 CHAMP
              How? Numbers say otherwise.They also loss to the same team that put them out the year before.
              You mean the same team that was MUCH better this year than last year? Ariza and Bynum were both injured last year.
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              • Jonesy
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 5382

                #202
                Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                Originally posted by NBA2k8 CHAMP
                How? Numbers say otherwise.They also loss to the same team that put them out the year before.

                You can say they ran a run n gun fake offense or whatever you want to call it.

                Yet the point is they put the ball in the basket and that's all that really matters correct?

                I don't care how you score aslong as you have more points than the opposition then that's the only thing that counts.
                No offense but if you think last years Denver team with AI is a good as this year's team with Billups then that's crazy. The AI led team only played offense and was horrific on D where as this years Billups team could actually make stops. Saying "I don't care how you score aslong as you have more points than the opposition then that's the only thing that counts" is true but if you can actually stop your opposition from scoring you are a much better team then if you just try to outscore everybody.

                Who would you rather the nuggets try to emulate the Celtics/Spurs or the Warriors?

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                • Muzyk23
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4192

                  #203
                  Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                  Originally posted by DakkoN
                  You mean the same team that was MUCH better this year than last year? Ariza and Bynum were both injured last year.
                  how about healthy Nene, K-mart and Birdman or Jones instead of Carter?
                  Last edited by Muzyk23; 07-08-2009, 06:41 AM.
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                  • DakkoN
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5611

                    #204
                    Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                    Originally posted by Muzyk23
                    how about healthy Nene, K-mart and Birdman or Jones instead of Carter?
                    Nene was injured but he still played in the playoffs. Kenyon Martin was perfectly fine, considering he played more minutes in the playoffs than JR Smith did. They had Marcus Camby, who had 53 rebounds and 12 blocks in the 4 games, instead of Birdman. Dahntay Jones is irrelevant considering this thread is about Iverson and Iverson played the SG. This team got swept in 4 games by a Lakers team that didn't have it's starting Center or 6th man. This year's team took a MUCH better Lakers team to 6 games. Anybody can see that the team with Iverson was not better than the team with Billups, but apparently you and 2K8 Champ are the only ones who can't.
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                    • Muzyk23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4192

                      #205
                      Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                      I can see it. I've never said this year's team wasn't better.

                      However, ppl diminish the role of Nuggets bigs when talking about improvement (esp. defensively). I can't agree with you about Nene as he was a non-factor in the playoffs coming from an injury and if you had followed Nuggets closely last year you would know what opnion Nuggets fans had of Camby and his game. Plus, there is the Birdman presence factor.
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                      • P2K
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 8845

                        #206
                        Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                        Originally posted by NBA2k8 CHAMP
                        1st point. He plays decent man to man defense, now rotations,pick n rolls,etc.. you got me there.

                        I think it's more of coaching than Iverson's fault.Even at Gtown I've never seen a man do it in my lifetime but Iverson would literally ball hawk the whole game.(Back then he was much younger,quicker,and very good at it)
                        Well, I disagree with man defense but I'll let you have that since we'll go in circles.



                        2nd. I do remember prime Iverson leading the league in steals but people don't give him credit for that yet Rondo and CP3 are the best defenders at the PG spot and that's all they do is play lanes and gamble like A.I. once did.
                        Yeah, but they are way better on-ball defenders than AI. We're just not going to agree on this.

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                        • NBA2k8 CHAMP
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1918

                          #207
                          Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                          No I agree they are better on ball defenders but not by much.You should know I'm a big fan of Rondo but both CP3 and RR plays on defensive built teams which in results make they're defense look better like A.I. in his Philly days.

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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #208
                            Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                            Originally posted by DakkoN
                            Nene was injured but he still played in the playoffs. Kenyon Martin was perfectly fine, considering he played more minutes in the playoffs than JR Smith did. They had Marcus Camby, who had 53 rebounds and 12 blocks in the 4 games, instead of Birdman. Dahntay Jones is irrelevant considering this thread is about Iverson and Iverson played the SG. This team got swept in 4 games by a Lakers team that didn't have it's starting Center or 6th man. This year's team took a MUCH better Lakers team to 6 games. Anybody can see that the team with Iverson was not better than the team with Billups, but apparently you and 2K8 Champ are the only ones who can't.
                            Nuggets rated B lost to Lakers rated B

                            Nuggets rated A lost to Lakers rated A

                            overall Lakers where better either way.....Thats not a good agruement, just proves either way the Lakers are better....BOTH teams where unhealthy last year...
                            Last edited by Jukeman; 07-08-2009, 02:24 PM.

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                            • Stumbleweed
                              Livin' the dream
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6279

                              #209
                              Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                              Heh, I'd actually like AI back on the Nuggets, but he'd have to come off the bench because I refuse to have JR not starting this year (WAY better matchups with a true SG). That would be amazing, actually... but won't happen.

                              I really hope he finds somewhere where he can actually play though... Miami would be fun to watch for a year with both him and Wade making insane plays every game. Seems like they're the only team showing a mutual interest in AI right now.
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                              • tehova
                                b**-r*y
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 3694

                                #210
                                Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

                                can we just take Memphis out the title and make this the A.I. thread?

                                nevermind



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                                Last edited by tehova; 07-08-2009, 06:12 PM.
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