The Allen Iverson Saga

[Bornindamecca]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Answer what? Why Grant Hill isnt a 6th man on a contendor?

Give me a break. Deflecting the truth from your mind wont change it. As is, Iverson won't win jack squat until his attitude changes.

That's the bottom line. Iverson apologists can make excuses for him all they want, but his career of losing will speak for itself until he changes.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Just like Jason Kidd,Grant Hill and countless others will lose until they accept a 6th man role and change lol.

We can go all day.

BTW you never responded to my post why has the only teams that won rings had legit 20+ and 10+ bigs who were either done by committee or Franchise players?

Who has Iverson played within his 11 years similar to that?

[DTX3]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Just like Jason Kidd,Grant Hill and countless others will lose until they accept a 6th man role and change lol.

We can go all day.

BTW you never responded to my post why has the only teams that won rings had legit 20+ and 10+ bigs who were either done by committee or Franchise players?

Who has Iverson played within his 11 years similar to that?

How could you even compare Jason Kidd to a selfish A.I.? Get over your love for him man. Why doesn't A.I. go to Celtics if he wants to win? Why didn't he come off the bench in Detroit? Why did the Nuggets get raped by the Lakers only to come back with almost the exact same team and almost beat the Lakers without A.I.? Why is A.I. such a loser? Why???

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Same ****, different thread I see.

Why don't we just give the man his own sub-forum on here lol.

[DTX3]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

A.I. fans are hard headed man. Just like the cAnswer himself.

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Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley wants to meet with Allen Iverson and is seriously considering a one-year, $5 million offer, according to team insiders.

The Memphis front office is split on whether or not signing Iverson would be a wise move. The final decision will rest with Heisley.

The Grizzlies would make clear to Iverson that he would be sent home or banished for any perceived act of insubordination.

a 1yr deal?

[DTX3]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Lol at the last line of the quote. That's what it has come to with A.I. these days.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

NM my mistake

Anyway this has been a headache to read

[Jukeman]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Same ****, different thread I see.

Why don't we just give the man his own sub-forum on here lol.

Lmao

I think AI and Marbs had more threads than Kobe and LeBron this season....I think....

[HMcCoy]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

a 1yr deal?

Im sure Heisley is licking his lips at the extra revenue the Answer would rake in for him, but Practice? We talkin about...practice?

On Thanksgiving?

Seriously though, reading about the situation, his issues seemed to be with Curry, and the fact that insiders say Allen never meshed with the guys...rarely even spoke to anybody.

Put him in a situation where he's at least comfortable, and I think AI would be a positive. Mark me down in the "yes he can be an unselfish, roleplaying leader" column. He hasn't before, but then, his legacy has never been in this type of hot water before. He wants to prove people wrong...never underestimate that in a guy.

[Muzyk23]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Im sure Heisley is licking his lips at the extra revenue the Answer would rake in for him, but Practice? We talkin about...practice?

On Thanksgiving?

Seriously though, reading about the situation, his issues seemed to be with Curry, and the fact that insiders say Allen never meshed with the guys...rarely even spoke to anybody.

Put him in a situation where he's at least comfortable, and I think AI would be a positive. Mark me down in the "yes he can be an unselfish, roleplaying leader" column. He hasn't before, but then, his legacy has never been in this type of hot water before. He wants to prove people wrong...never underestimate that in a guy.

you mean the sulking cry-babing Hamilton? Iverson said they hung up last week

should've read all the articles I provided

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

Answer what? Why Grant Hill isnt a 6th man on a contendor?

Give me a break. Deflecting the truth from your mind wont change it. As is, Iverson won't win jack squat until his attitude changes.

The only thing Iverson hasn't won is a ring.So I guess he's on the same boat as Malone,Barkley,Ewing,R.Miller,etc.. not bad company!

Everybody's not going to win a ring especially with no Legit post player or great head coach.

Look at the teams from the last 10 years that has won it.

Lakers,Celtics,Pistons,Spurs,Heat

Great coaching,Great Wing play,Great Post play

Now tell me the last team Iverson played on that had that? ding ding ding Larry Brown and Dikembe Mutumbo(Past his prime)

How could you even compare Jason Kidd to a selfish A.I.? Get over your love for him man. Why doesn't A.I. go to Celtics if he wants to win? Why didn't he come off the bench in Detroit? Why did the Nuggets get raped by the Lakers only to come back with almost the exact same team and almost beat the Lakers without A.I.? Why is A.I. such a loser? Why???

Who is Jason Kidd? What has he done that Iverson hasn't done?

Why didn't Jason Kidd go to L.A. if he wanted a ring? You're 21 and was 12 when Iverson and Kidd was in they're primes you know not much of anything.

Everybody in the NBA isn't a ring chaser,I'd much rather be happy on my job with much success rather than upset with a funky ring.


You keep saying Denver has the same team are deaf or blind?

Nene
Jones
Billups = 3 New starters= MAJOR change

The only reason they were close was because Melo was averaging close to 40.When Melo went down the Nuggets went down.

[Lynsanity]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

The only thing Iverson hasn't won is a ring.So I guess he's on the same boat as Malone,Barkley,Ewing,R.Miller,etc.. not bad company!

Everybody's not going to win a ring especially with no Legit post player or great head coach.

Look at the teams from the last 10 years that has won it.

Lakers,Celtics,Pistons,Spurs,Heat

Great coaching,Great Wing play,Great Post play

Now tell me the last team Iverson played on that had that? ding ding ding Larry Brown and Dikembe Mutumbo(Past his prime)



Who is Jason Kidd? What has he done that Iverson hasn't done?

Why didn't Jason Kidd go to L.A. if he wanted a ring? You're 21 and was 12 when Iverson and Kidd was in they're primes you know not much of anything.

Everybody in the NBA isn't a ring chaser,I'd much rather be happy on my job with much success rather than upset with a funky ring.


You keep saying Denver has the same team are deaf or blind?

Nene
Jones
Billups = 3 New starters= MAJOR change

The only reason they were close was because Melo was averaging close to 40.When Melo went down the Nuggets went down.

I agree with you on most of your points. I would say the loss of Camby and the addition of the Birdman was just as much a part of them winning the extra games. Camby is a good help side defender, but has more of that slow it down and let me take a jumper mentality. Nene is more of a fast break player at this stage. Nene + Birdman - Camby= More Transition points, and easier scoring.

I think the Nuggets could have had a similar season with Iverson, and I really think Iverson would have had a better statistical season.

[KENYON06]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

Is that you Z-Bo?

Just being honest... Buckets are fun.... real fun

[P2K]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

Look at the teams star post players that has won it the last few years

Gasol(Bonafied All Star)+Bynum+Odom-Committee

KG(Franchise player yet can't be a 1st option)

Tim Duncan

Young Wallaces Ben and Rasheed

Shaq

Do you think it's a coincedence? You have to have GREAT not good post play to win a ring.

That's something IVERSON NEVER HAD.

True...but watch my next two answers...

Okay lets do this.

Lineup

Shaq
Amare

They want to sign Dirk as a FA to put them over the top for a ring yet Dirk can go somewhere else and start what do you think Dirk would do?

Also why didn't Jason Kidd accept the 6th man role in Boston or SA to win a ring?

Why didn't Grant Hill?

Are they selfish too? Do they have ego's?

Grant Hill isn't starting for anyone good, let's get that out of the way.

Jason Kidd? He's still one of the best points (offensively & defensively) in the league.

Just like Jason Kidd,Grant Hill and countless others will lose until they accept a 6th man role and change lol.

We can go all day.

BTW you never responded to my post why has the only teams that won rings had legit 20+ and 10+ bigs who were either done by committee or Franchise players?

Who has Iverson played within his 11 years similar to that?

You're really assuming AI could play and win with teams like that.

I agree with you on most of your points. I would say the loss of Camby and the addition of the Birdman was just as much a part of them winning the extra games. Camby is a good help side defender, but has more of that slow it down and let me take a jumper mentality. Nene is more of a fast break player at this stage. Nene + Birdman - Camby= More Transition points, and easier scoring.

I think the Nuggets could have had a similar season with Iverson, and I really think Iverson would have had a better statistical season.

So Iverson would be just as effective as Chauncey on both ends of the court? Yeah, I disagree.